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« on: April 28, 2007, 06:11:42 PM »

In some of the discussion here and elsewhere I've seen these two foods come up a lot. Lots of people seem concerned about Friskies and Fancy Feast and how their cats act on them. I have also seen some about Beneful and one of their other dry dog foods but can't remember which right now. I wanted to share my experiences. I think I have an obligation to let those concerned know about the huge change I have seen with my cats in just a few weeks.

We used to feed our cats Friskies canned food, all the chicken and fish flavors. One of them did get very sick about 3 weeks ago. His kidneys did shut down; I am not specifically saying its the Melamine, he is old and has other issues (heart). We don't know what caused it for sure. He was mostly fine and pretty good for a 14 year old. He did have a spraying/grumpiness problem, but assumed he hated the kittens. Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he was very, very sick and almost died. Kidneys shut down, fluid in his lungs and somewhat enlarged heart. He was far beyond lethargic; he couldn't move, couldn't even lift his head. The Vets gave him the treatment recommended for the poisoned food: Subcutaneous Fluids with Lasix (furosemide) to draw it back out and the antibiotic that is also recommended. Plus they started him on heart meds. His BUN was about 40 but creatinine etc within normal ranges.

I do wonder if he had Melamine poisoning. But he absolutely has not had any foods on the recall lists. But that is not actually why I am here today. I just wanted to explain what did happen just in case it might help someone.

No, the reason I am writing today is to tell all the pet parents concerned about Purina's products, how much better all my cats are now that they are not eating those foods. I only have experience with Friskies but I think the Fancy Feast and perhaps the others could have the same problem. I want to say that:

I think Purina products are just plain bad food.

I have a bunch of cats. The 14 year old I've been talking about, the rest are: 16, 5, 2, and 3 kittens at about 8 months. (All but the oldest 2 adopted us, the 5 year old already prego when she showed up. Yes, we adopted a pregnant cat off the street. She LOVES us so much!)  Cheesy

I have to tell all concerned about the incredible difference in all of them since we changed foods. Especially in the oldest. The change in his behavior is dramatic! He is running and playing with the kittens a little, he chased a toy! He doesn't fall when he tries to jump. He used to just sleep and lay around; we were lucky to get him to watch a toy roll past or maybe to just hiss at the kittens a little bit.

The one who was sick is much better of course since he didn't die. But even so, he is happier and has more energy; he was chasing the laser light: we didn't even know he was interested in it before! So far he is not spraying or grumpy or any of the other behaviors he had before this whole mess started! One of the kids was always a little sensitive, stomach-ache or something, fussy about being held, never quite sure...But she is getting better as well. She is eating much better now and is finally starting to catch up with her litter mates. The other kids, while they always seemed well enough, are also much stronger acting and less fussy/tired. The other two, in the middle, while not having any specific problems, do seem different as well. Happier, perhaps and not as stressed. Although, Momma was just fixed, so we don't know which is making the difference for her.

I hope this will help those of you with concerns about Friskies and Fancy Feast, and maybe the other Purina products as well. After all this I would tell anyone if they're not happy with their pet's food, just change it. I wanted to especially tell those concerned about these foods to stop feeding them. Just try something different. You may think that your pets are alright or well enough. I know I did. But you may see a tremendously huge difference just like we did.

Honest, I promise, my 16 year old is acting 4-6 years younger. Behavioral problems also seem to be solved for the 14 year old. And they are all still improving!

Just change the food if you are worried or even slightly concerned. It won't hurt them to change. It may help them...
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2007, 06:40:41 PM »

I am one who agrees with this thread I have 2 cats who are avictim of Purinas lies they were fell ill on March 23rd 2007 from me using a product after the recall that they told me was safe,  Both my cats have relpased in the last 2 days bring my vet bill total close to 2,000 dollars with no promise that they are still not going to die from this because nobody know the fall out.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2007, 07:01:52 PM »

BiG Momma, Hi!

I'm so glad to hear that your 14-yr old pulled through and is doing so well now that you've thrown away the Friskies and Fancy Feast.  May I ask what you are feeding your kitties now?

I also used to feed my cats Friskies - the shredded, filleted and carved beef, salmon, chicken, turkey, tuna varieties.  My cats did not exactly thrive on these foods, but am glad they did not sicken on them either - not once.  My eldest boy threw up once when I fed him 9-Lives, so never gave that again. I did not know much about cat nutrition or cat foods back then.  But I am glad now that for the fist five years of my eldest cat's life, I fed him mostly people food becuase where we lived then, regular cat food was not readily available.  Maybe this explains his naturally strong constitution.  But since August last year, I had become more aware of cat nutrition and tried other pricier brands (mostly cans becuase that is my cats' primary diet): Science Diet; Iams; Eukanuba.  I must say that there was a dramatic change in the poop consistency of my eldest cat - no more runny, stinky poops!  Then the pet food recall happened!  Fortunately, although my cats were on Iams and Eukanuba, neither variety I had here were on the recall list.  But I chucked them away anyway and switched the cats to Natural Balance; Solid Gold and Castor and Pollux.  More improvement! Then NB recalled some varieties!  Fortunately again, none of the NB flavors I had here were on the recall.  But still, I quarantined all NB cans and plan to return them.  "This does it," I thought. I am going to embark on raw feeding!  And that's what I am doing right now... gradually transitioning both my kitties to raw food.  I mix their food 1/4 raw to 3/4 commercial food (Evo; Innova; Solid Gold). So far so good.  Sometimes my eldest will eat the raw all by itself.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2007, 07:51:33 PM »

Good luck to you GoingNUTZoverthis, you are one of the people I felt compelled to write this for. I hope this will help you. Love them, push them to eat anything they will eat for now. Give them all the time you can, even if you just sit with them; they have to know they are important and needed.

kaffe,
Now feeding:
half the time: people food: canned tuna, whitefish and salmon,
other half: Whiskas Purrfectly Fish.
A little dry Whiskas; would like to wean them off that though.
Plus chicken and whatever they want off our plates. Tried some milk and yogurt today: they liked it!

Worry about too much salt in the canned fish but can’t find any without salt. and I think they should have something with vitamins just in case.

Oh, and bugs; the kids love to hunt bugs outside.  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2007, 06:43:48 AM »

BFMC- might want to be cautious about feeding lots of fish.. particularly the tuna. The milk could also potentially pose some problems, as many adult cats are lactose intolerant.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=450509
http://www.felinefuture.com/nutrition/fish.php

Also, if you're exclusively homefeeding, it's important to make sure that your cats are getting all the nutrients they need.. particularly taurine. Cats fed a diet deficient in taurine are at risk of blindness and heart disease. Because of differences in their metabolism, cats don't fare as well on diets of table scraps as dogs do.

http://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/catsaredif.html

If they're also going outside and hunting rodents, they're probably at a lower risk of nutritional deficiency from dietary imbalances than an indoor cat would be.. but if you're looking into homefeeding, might be a good idea to give some established recipes a go, just to make certain they're getting everything they need in the right amounts.  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2007, 09:39:55 AM »

Believe me disgruntled_llama, I don't like giving them all that fish, thats a lot of heavy metals for them. This is only a temporary measure. Wish I knew how temporary...

 With the milk they have learned to let it spoil a little. The bacteria use up the lactose for them; so, that is why I thought I would add the live yogurt, which seems to have worked!
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2007, 10:23:37 AM »

My cat ate Purina exclusively for years.  To make a long story short, she started 'slowing down' last summer, but the vet insisted she had no health problems (and never had) and that it must just be due to age.  I accepted it until I heard about the recall.  I pulled her food even though it's not being recalled. It's definitely the best move I ever made for my cat.  She's acting 5 years younger, went from sleeping 20+ hours a day to sleeping 12 - 14, she races me to the food bowl (something she has NEVER done before), she stopped vomiting (a habit she picked up last summer and would repeat every few weeks), her already beautiful coat is even thicker, and the list of improvements goes on and on.

I have to say in my experience Purina has a problem with their food.  Even if it is not tainted (which I strongly believe it is) there are clearly problems with a cat food formulation that would make a cat behave twice her age and allow such dramatic improvements to be seen in both her behavior and physical being.  I have seen many online reports of problems with Purina products since these recalls, the most remarkable being those with multiple animals who all refused the food and/or became sick at the same time.  I have written Purina regarding these matters as I was unable get through by phone and I would prefer to handle correspondence by e-mail.  The first of the e-mails I wrote was back in March.  The only reply I received was one telling me to call their customer service line which is busy.

To me, what they are doing is far worse than companies that have recalled their products.  The are running heavy advertising campaigns and saying they are a safe alternative when they are not.  It's deceitful and predatory action.

I would not use a Purina product again and I would certainly not recommend it to anyone else.  Nestle is after all the company that not only pushed infant formula in underdeveloped nations so that less children were being breastfed and resultantly less healthy and more prone to developmental problems, but gave out copious free samples for mothers so that their own milk would dry up and they would not be able to return to breast feeding even if they wanted to.  One can only imagine what contempt a company with so little regard for human life would have for our pets.
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2007, 01:26:16 PM »

hello all
I agree that purina friskies is not good food at all. Altho for the longest time I had been feeding all my cats friskies canned and would switch around with purina dry foods. I began to notice my cats fur looking dull and one of them was losing its hair after eating deli-cat dry. now since reading all the posts and becoming more informed, I have decided to stop feeding my cats dry food and to switch from friskies canned food.  I just bought cans of nature's variety and will rotate that with a raw diet. My one cat loves the raw and the other walked away.so I will have to slowly mix it with her canned.  I also now have my dog on nature's variety(her new balance was recalled) and will rotate with canned, raw and dry. I also make extra of whenever we have meat for dinner.
--3 years ago I had a male cat that died from kidney failure. after spending much money for vet bills, I had no choice but to put him down. I now know it was the food that contributed to his kidney failure. I wish I had been more informed back then.  Sad
--these forums have been an eye opener for me. thanks to all for the great info  Smiley  I will no longer make any uninformed decisions when it comes to my pets. research, research, ask questions and ask more questions.
 
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2007, 02:13:48 PM »

Hi all!

For over a month now I have been OBSESSED with the pet food recalls, bad pet foods and what to feed my cats.  Been researching and expermenting on raw diets. There has been many posts here at itchmo on raw recipes, so I will not repeat.  But I thought I'd share a very handy food analyser tool with you all.  It is very handy expecially when calculating the calcium-to-phosphorus ratio balance of a particular raw meal you are serving.  It also gives you all the other nutrient percentages.  For example, if you are preparing 1 pound of beef for your pet, you can go to this calculator-analyser and it will tell you exactly how much proteins, carbs, vitamins, minerals are in that pound of meat!  If you find there is ore phosphoris than calcium, then you know you need to add some calcium-rich ingredient like powdered eggshells (I grind ordinary eggshells in a coffe grinder which powders it - the shell of 1 average size egg contains 2200mg calcium).  Anyway, check the link:


http://nat.crgq.com/mainnat.html
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2007, 04:48:04 PM »

This is my post from another related thread...

My JuJu (cat) was solely on FF canned food, for approximately two years.

Within a few days of the first recalls being announced, she became extremely ill.  I thought she was going to die that first Sunday.  She was extremely dehydrated.  I was able to get her to drink apple juice and water...which began to hydrate her again.  She got better.

About one and a half days later, I fed her some FF, as she was hungry...again she got very sick...she had symptoms that resembled poisoning.  I stopped the food, and again she recovered.

I wondered, "now what did I do different?"  Then it clicked, I fed her FF.  I looked at the ingredients of what I had fed her...it contained wheat gluten.

I called Nestle Purina the next day.  I was assured that there was nothing wrong with their food, and that no one else had complained.  But I was quickly offered a reimbursement for all unused food I had on hand.

From that day on JuJu continued to go downhill.  She got weaker and weaker, despite my efforts and her strong will to live.  Three weeks later, on April 15th, she passed away.

She had always been a big, strong cat.  But with the diet of FF, she seemed to waste away.  I couldn't even fathom that her food might be doing it.

I cannot prove this.  But as many of you know...just as a mother and child situation...you know in your "knower" what happened.

JuJu was a completely indoor cat, so she had no access to any toxic substances (such as antifreeze).

A friend of mine, who lives in Canada, told me that his neighbor's cat also died around the same time...it was on a diet of FF.  According to my friend, they were offered a reimbursement by the company for their vet bill, and money to adopt a new cat.

I will never buy or use FF again.

I am concerned with the long term damage that could be done by feeding a diet of exclusively FF.  If fed in conjunction with other foods, the damage may not show up until the cat is older.


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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2007, 06:57:22 AM »

Marcy7, thank-you for posting and sharing your story. I am so sorry for you and your poor JuJu. What's with the wasting away we've been seeing? I need to know since my poor Junior seems to be getting thinner.

We need to keep in mind that Nestle-Purina is a HUGE company and the FDA does not have the authority to force a mandatory recall.

Melamine or not: Purina sells food that is BAD for pets!!

Everyone: Please, Stop feeding Purina and help spread the word!!!

We have to do this on our own. There is nowhere to go for help...

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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2007, 07:12:59 AM »

My cats have had a relapse on Friday.  Now they both have GI issues resulting form the Poison and it is both of my cats.  So now the FF is not only causing Kidney failure which minesomehow escapped levels with perfect on Friday ate ER so ws urine.  They are having these rounds of acid reflux and nausea and are on PEPCID ever 12 hours.  Who know what is next..................Just pray it is only going to be the reflux issue and nothing serious.  Sorry to read of everyones terrible loses from this wonderful Purina product which I also had the pleaseure of being told it was safe after 3 different phones calls phone call i suggested they eat the 20 cans I have left if it is so DARN SAFE> 
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2007, 06:52:10 AM »

GoingNUTZoverthis,
How are your furkids doing today?
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2007, 07:59:01 AM »

This is my post from another related thread...
My JuJu (cat) was solely on FF canned food, for approximately two years...
Within a few days of the first recalls being announced, she became extremely ill.         But with the diet of FF, she seemed to waste away...I cannot prove this.  But as many of you know...just as a mother and child situation...you know in your "knower" what happened.
A friend of mine, who lives in Canada, told me that his neighbor's cat also died around the same time...it was on a diet of FF.  According to my friend, they were offered a reimbursement by the company for their vet bill, and money to adopt a new cat.


Marcy7 -

You have posted some very interesting information...

I would like to be able to ask you for a little more detail, as I am gathering info on Fancy Feast.

I have sent you a number of private messages and emails, trying to get in touch...

Could you please reply. Thanks!
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2007, 02:07:30 PM »

To the OP.

Was the friskies flavor mariner's catch?

A couple of weeks ago, I fed my cats friskies flavor mariner's catch. My cats started throwing up and acting sick. I rushed them to the vet and he kept asking me if they got into anything toxic.

I still have 2 cans of the food. I put them in the pile of different brands of wet food cans I have sitting in my kitchen that I don't trust.
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