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PatMRaleigh
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« on: January 04, 2008, 05:03:33 PM »

Well folks, I'm freaked.  I've been feeding Fancy Feast Original Gourmet Varieties (the ones that were never recalled and never contained wheat or corn gluten) to my pets and fosters for several years.  I also feed Friskies Liver and Chicken and Turkey and Giblets and a couple of pets with special health conditions receive Innova Evo Turkey & Chicken.  But for the past three days several of my pets and one of my fosters have been vomiting explosively within 30 minutes to 2 hours after eating their Fancy Feast.  And one, who we jokingly refer to as "Mikey" since he'll literally inhale anything put in front of him,  really put the kaibosh on this particular batch of Fancy Feast.  He sniffed the food gingerly, licked it tentatively and then pulled back as if bitten by a snake!  I offered that same bowl to him about 6 time but he avoided it as if it was poison.  I finally gave in and offered him a 6 oz can of Friskies Chicken and Liver and he unhesitatingly wolfed it down . . . and did NOT vomit it back later. 

Today I had to take two of my cats to the vet since they'd hardly consumed anything in three days.  Last evening I had finally fed each one a small jar of Lamb baby food (pureed meat only), mixed with a teaspoon of kitty Nutrical (to add Taurine) and water.  By that time their stomachs were so upset they refused to eat unless syringe fed this baby food mixture.  Each one kept the food down for a couple of hours but then again experienced explosive vomiting. 

Neither cat was felt to have an infection of any kind, no temp, not coughing, sneezing, or diarrhea, and no runny eyes or nose, so they were treated for nausea, given fluids, blood and urine tests and sent home.  The two cats who saw their vets (two different vets), came home with advice that we change their food and see if it helps (once we can get them to eat again, that is).  Needless to say, I'm putting all those boxes of Fancy Feast away until I can rule out a problem related to what they ate.  In the meantime we'll revert to the Friskies Chicken and Liver and Turkey and Giblets that have not yet appeared to cause the cats digestive problems.

All I know for certain is that four cats who ate Fancy Feast became violently nauseated and vomited explosively, and have completely lost their appetites now for 3 days.  The vomitus contained NO hair or other irritating material that might have been swallowed by the cats, AND though there was no blood in evidence the color of the vomited food and fluids was VERY dark pink (as if from an awful lot of dye).  Interestingly, the lamb the two cats threw up was NOT dark pink but instead was the same color as the lamb was in the jar . . . light tan.  So I think we can be sure the pink color was from dye (or something else in the Fancy Feast food and not from blood. 

I will check back in on this board next week to share the blood results of these kitties and also to see if anyone else has had recent problems with their cats digestive health after they ate Fancy Feast.  I'm really beginning to worry that I'll have to rule out feeding one of the last few cat foods I halfway trusted. 
Please advise if you've seen anything like this in your animals in recent weeks.  I sincerely hope we're not seeing yet another contaminated pet food trend here. Thanks!

P.S.  The cans we’ve been feeding over the past several days are all from Plant #1160 . . . I just checked.  We had just bought this newest batch and begun feeding it when the violent vomiting and complete food aversion began in our four cats.
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2008, 05:21:52 PM »

Pat,

Welcome to Itchmo.  I hope your cats will be okay.

Did you see this thread?  Did you see any red or pink tinge to the center of the cans?

http://itchmoforums.com/your-problems-with-pet-food/friskiesfancy-feast-t2935.0.html

Do  you have expiration dates?  If it was me, I would definitely not feed the same food again with that type of reaction.  I'm not sure, but I thought the Fancy Feast cans now say Friskees on them, too.  Maybe try to find something without artificial preservatives in it. 

Please do let us know about the blood tests.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2008, 05:33:48 PM »

I did see the post thread that specifically addressed Fancy Feast and I tried to post my topic there as a "reply", but evidently wasn't successful.  Then, when I exited that post, the system said I "timed out" before posting, so I thought that's what had happened to my attempt.  In fact, it referred to my prior opening of a post window on the thread where you've now read my posted message.  Sorry!  . . . I'm new to this board and am just getting used to the process.  Please feel free to move this thread to the "problems with your pet foods" posting area if appropriate . . . that's where I'd actually intended to place it.

Also, I did NOT notice anything that looked like an uncooked area in the center of the cans of food.  I haven't noticed anything different except for a more noticeable "pink" color to the foods . . . as if somebody got a bid heavy-handed with the dye content!

I'm not new to the pet food recall topic area, however, having been heavily involved in the blogging that went on after the initial rash of pet deaths were linked to melamine/cyanuric acid contamination.  I previously posted as "Dismayed and Disgusted" from my work PC, but am now retired and posting from home as PatMRaleigh.

I'm seriously concerned about my cats as this is the most violent vomiting I've seen in 30 years of owning kitties.  It takes a lot to get me freaked since I've had pets and fosters for years and also deal with feral colony management and TNR and am accustomed to seeing very sick cats in clinic situations.

Will definitely post back re the blood tests and re how these cats fare.  Please keep your fingers crossed for them.  In the meantime, I'm busily sorting through the two batches of Fancy Feast purchased most recently . . . the ones implicated in the vomiting are from Plant 1160, while the newest batch from a different PetSmart, which have not yet been implicated in illness here are from Plant 1162.  Thank God for the shared information on this board . . . about the only thing left to help any of us avoid food contamination is shared, albeit anecdotal, information that may help us identify suspect trends early on, before hundreds more pets die.

Thanks for keeping up this fantastic resource!
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2008, 05:47:05 PM »

Pat,

It's fine where you posted.  I just wanted to point the other thread out to you so you could see if anything sounded familiar there.

I'm glad they had urine tests, too.

We also have these threads in the Cat Food Experience boards.

http://itchmoforums.com/cat-food-experiences-by-brand/fancy-feast-t1185.0.html

http://itchmoforums.com/cat-food-experiences-by-brand/fancy-feastelegant-medleys-only-t1332.0.html

Poor kitties.

{{hugs}}
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2008, 05:56:53 PM »

Pat, I had a recent problem with my cat, Kitt'n, over FancyFeast that sounds exactly like your problem.  It happened on 11/29/07, with FF Mixed Grill.  I had posted: "I gave her Fancy Feast Mixed Grill and she violently vomitted 3 times right after eating.  She was breathing real hard, and her mouth was open and panting.  She couldn't even stand.  After about an hour she was pretty calmed down but weak."

The vomiting was the most projectile you can imagine, and was reddish brown.  It shot out at least 3 feet from her and she's only the size of a kitten (thus the name).

I don't have any of the Mixed Grill left, but I checked my cans of Turkey & Giblets (code 1160 good thru 9/09) and Salmon Feast (code 1162 good thru 10/09).  The Mixed Grill was purchased at the same time these other flavors were.

I switched her to Wellness canned grainless after that.  Now she's on raw Felines Pride and is doing just excellent!  I swear I will NEVER feed FF again.

I have had problems with FF over the past years with vomitting right after eating it, but not as violent as this last episode.  Hope this helps.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2008, 05:58:46 PM »

Pat -
     Sorry about your kitties and hope they will recover quickly.  I use Fancy Feast exclusively and have not encountered any problems.  Most of my cans are from plant #1160, but the important information you could provide here would be the Lot numbers and expiration dates that caused the problem.  The numbers can be found on the bottom of each can - and post the entire number as well as the date you see there.  In that way, those who use the Fancy Feast can be aware and report any similar problems if they occur.  I would also suggest that you call Purina and report your experience and the Lot numbers and expiration dates.  If there is a problem, discussing here is always important for those on this forum.  But, the company has to be aware so that they can investigate for a cause of the problem.  I never had a problem during the recalls, and Purina never had any recalls of cat food, but I did speak to reps there several times just to ask questions and always found them to be very cooperative and willing to share information.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2008, 06:03:02 PM »

Welcome to the forum.  Your poor kitties!  I am hoping that they will be all right, and will keep you and them in my thoughts.

The "explosive vomit" sounds like what happened to some of my cats when they ate FF Elegant Medleys about a year ago.  However, that was more white foam, and not from the regular FF that you are describing.  But there was definitely some type of serious gastric irritation going on for mine.  This was not a food I fed daily or in large amounts.

I have been told that Plant Code 1160 stands for the Purina plant in Jefferson WI, which is about an hour's drive from where I live.  What were the expiration dates on the cans?


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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2008, 06:03:20 PM »

Nabiya -
     If you still have those cans of Fancy Feast, could you post the entire Lot number on them, please?  I do use lots of Turkey & Giblets and what I am using now have an expiration of Nov. 09.  The 1160 and 1162 are only plant numbers, so the lot number gives more information on the production run, etc.  and would be helpful.  Maybe you could also call Purina and let them know you had a problem.  Even if you don't want to use the food in the future, there are many who still do and would benefit if there truly was a problem to be addressed with it.  Thanks.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2008, 06:08:00 PM »

Thanks for the two references . . . just read them and some of their experiences with the gourmet/pate original line of FF products sound like what my cats are now going through.  I determined early on that I would not purchase the Elegant Medley line because ALL contained gravy/wheat gluten and hence represented a risk of melamine contamination.  Glad I errored on the side of caution . . . just hope I haven't goofed by continuing to use the basic, purportedly safe, FF varieties! 
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2008, 06:16:21 PM »

Nabiya - Yes, the vomiting my cats are producing is just as you describe and the worst I've ever seen. 

Mandy - I too have fed the FF original gourmet varieties for years and throughout the recalls without problem.  I can no longer make that statement and am seriously concerned that something may have been changed in the formulation of the foods.  Remember, by law the company does NOT have to change their labelling to reflect changes in formulation for SIX MONTHS after a recipe change.  I have no confirmation as yet and may never have definitive confirmation the FF caused what these four cats are experiencing . . . I discarded the cans.  However, I will NOT again risk feeding FF to my cats if I can find a safe and affordable alternative food.  "Once bitten, twice shy" is my personal rule when it comes to products that are NOT properly regulated or tested by the FDA.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2008, 06:28:41 PM »

Pat- Welcome back. I hope your kitties will be ok. From now on you might want to save any food left &/or cans,bags etc. It's hard enough to prove a problem with the food with the evidence.Without it's pretty much impossible. Have you tried chicken & white rice to settle their stomaches ?
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2008, 06:29:45 PM »

Pat -
     Sorry you discarded them.  You post said you were putting them away, so I thought you still had them.   Sad
  
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     I hope that any time anyone has a problem with any particular food, you would either save the cans or write down the information on them.  If we want to avoid unnecessary illnesses and deaths in the future, problems need to be conveyed to the companies involved.  If your problem is serious enough to warrant a vet visit, it is serious enough to be reported to the manufacturer for the benefit of all pet owners who may be feeding that food.  It is most helpful to discuss our problems here for those who read this forum, but we are but a small number compared to everyone who uses these products.  The company may not find that there is a problem, but they can't even begin to look for one if they don't get complaints.  Despite what we may think of the pet food companies, I seriously doubt that any one of them truly wants to be putting out food that may be poison to our pets.  
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2008, 06:57:43 PM »

Nabiya -
     If you still have those cans of Fancy Feast, could you post the entire Lot number on them, please?  I do use lots of Turkey & Giblets and what I am using now have an expiration of Nov. 09.  The 1160 and 1162 are only plant numbers, so the lot number gives more information on the production run, etc.  and would be helpful.  Maybe you could also call Purina and let them know you had a problem.  Even if you don't want to use the food in the future, there are many who still do and would benefit if there truly was a problem to be addressed with it.  Thanks.
Here's the information from the cans I have.  I purchased a sealed 24-can (3 oz.) pack of each:
Turkey & Giblets Feast:  Best by 9/2009  Plant 1160  Lot 11801911
Savory Salmon Feast:  Best by 10/09  Plant 1162 Lot 11662149

I was feeding FancyFeast only because my (I thought) dying 20 year old cat would not eat anything else and it wouldn't matter in the long term.  Fortunately she's recovered just fine and is doing beautifully on a raw diet.

As far as notifying Purina that my cat threw up, I'd have a better chance of a response notifying Bush I want our troops pulled out of Iraq.....

I'm not going to get into what I think of PF companies and poisonous food so this thread doesn't get put into the ring and I hope no one else does either.

Pat, sending you prayers that your kitties recover and hope you find a solution soon so that you can rest, too.
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2008, 07:45:30 PM »

LeslieK - Thanks . . . and re chicken and white rice, the current problem is they are not/will not eat anything at all right now.  That's why they were given subQ fluids to prevent further dehydration, antinausea medication to calm their digestive tracts, and steroids to boost their appetites.  It will take time before their stomachs can handle much in the way of truly solid food.  Perhaps if the chicken was very tender and then put through a blender with the rice.  But I suspect even that would be too much fiber during their initial recovery period.

MandyCat - The cans we are currently sorting and replacing in their flats for return to PetSmart are from the same plant code (1160) and were in the same boxes with the cans that actually contained the foods the sick kitties ate.  However the cans that actually contained the dispensed food were discarded immediately after the food was placed in bowls, because I, like you, had come to trust the FF Gourmet Line as being safe.  By the time I suspected the source of the vomiting, the garbage truck had already picked them up.  

And forgive me, but if the pet food manufacturers truly cared, they would not still be marketing products that continue to this day to experience consumer-instigated (as opposed to company-test-related) recalls.  I won't belabor past manufacturer recall response records, of which most of us here are well aware, but simply state that the manufacturers by and large have not appeared to respond to individual peoples' pets' plights in anything other than a token manner.  And I neither seek nor expect financial compensation from pet food manufacturers .  To me that's not a realistic goal and would only waste time and money that's in short supply and must be spent on my pets' food and healthcare.

In my experience, the best most pet owners can realistically expect to do to protect our pets and help others protect theirs is to report our anecdotal histories of food dispensed and adverse physiological reactions observed, and any related veterinary data, and hope others will do the same in an objective manner so we can read and benefit from these cumulative posts.  We can then each come to our own conclusions regarding possible trends in products we may want to avoid in order to best protect our pets from the possibility of inadvertent harm.  

It's all but impossible to definitively prove a cause and effect relationship of food to adverse symptoms.  Most of the time we can only try to keenly observe what happens in our world and try our best to navigate a safe course by our decisions.  As consumers, I truly believe that we must all simply use our best judgement to protect our pets, since the FDA is neither truly willing nor in any way equipped (i.e., underfunded and undermanned) to protect our and our pets' food supply.  And of course, we can always hope it may eventually be possible through elections to change the status quo and see to it that our regulatory agencies are no longer rendered ineffective through deliberate underfunding.

Thanks,

- Pat
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2008, 07:49:17 PM »

Pat,

I admire how logical you sound.  I'd be hysterical and incapable of thinking straight.   Sad
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