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« Reply #195 on: July 23, 2008, 04:02:45 PM »

I have lost faith in all pet food companys. My states Ag. & Mkts tested my food , they notified FDA , they also notified the company who made the food and their states Ag& Mkts. They notified them because my food contained toxins.

I also learned today of a dog who recently died and was being fed Nutro. The boarding kennel owner , who owned the dog has since advised her clients to bring their own food , bring a list of all the ingredients, preferably the label. So if the dogs become ill in her care she can show the ingredient list, manufacture etc. to the vet if they need medical care.
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« Reply #196 on: July 23, 2008, 05:27:54 PM »

I fed my sil's dog tonight & he picked out all the wet & left the dry. I immediately picked up the dry so he & the cat wouldn't eat it,warned my bil not to use it & went out & got new food. I guess I am just paranoid,but anyone turning up their noses at a food immediately suggests something wrong with it to me. Who knows,with the heat & humidity the way itas been it could just be rancid,but I'm not taking the chance. BTW it was his reg. NB fish & sw pot. It was in a food container so I don't know the codes or dates.Nothing looked or smelled funny about it either.
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« Reply #197 on: July 25, 2008, 04:03:38 AM »

There are a couple more complaints/updates and one of them is an update from the woman (Theresa) whose dogs died from "antifreeze" that Lisa profiled
...hope she is still covering all this... Undecided

http://consumeraffairs.com/pets/nutro.html

Vince of Pasadena CA (07/23/08)
My dog was fed with NutroMax at the animal shelter so that's the only reason I continue to use the same brand. Then recently I bought a new batch of same item from Petco, my dog wouldn't even near it. It's like he smells something is wrong in that batch of Nutro pet food so he would rather starve himself. At first, I through he is getting tired of this flavor. But even I didn't feed him anything else for a few days, he still refuses to eat that bag of Nutro food. He would just take a few bites cause I wouldn't give him anything else. Then he drinks a lot of water and starts to eat grass. He would seek for new food source rather than eating the Nutro pet food. I won't get Nutro pet food again until they have a complete report to address all complains.



Sharon of Buffalo NY (07/23/08)
Just an add on to my 6-7-08 complaint/comments on this website. I check this site everyday & I am shocked to see how much this list has grown since then.

One thing that concerns me is that this food is still on the market in many pet stores. I did file a complaint to the FDA. I am not one to file complaints of any kind and this is the first, but when it comes to illnesses & deaths of these dogs with the same symptoms & within the same period of time, I strongly doubt this is coincidential. It is not that this is a new situation, it happened last year so why is this not taken seriously?

I am so thankful that I found this website, otherwise I would have kept feeding my dog this food. My experience happened very early on at the end of April. Not knowing any of this, I would just have presumed that he had pancretitus that he was diagonised with(doesn't have it now).

I had only had him 5 Months before he started getting sick on the Nutro. My three trips to the Vet and changing him to a holistic food probably saved his life. My dog was happy, healthy and bouncing off the walls like a typical 4yr old lab(adopted from the SPCA.) until he became ill in April with the same symptoms that so many of these dogs are having. Vomiting, Lethargy, loose stools,drinking water continuously. He would also look at the food in his bowl not wanting to eat it, almost knowing it was making him sick. The thing that scared me the most was the lethargy. He was definently in pain. He would walk a little bit and then lay down and wouldn't move. This was happening alot.

The third time I took him to the vet, I rushed him in, in the morning. I thought I was going to loose him. His tongue was hanging very limply out of his mouth,he had very labored breathing and he was laying on his side. I was very lucky I got him to the vet early. He was much better after a stay in the hospital and precription food. My heart breaks for all those that have lost a beloved pet. This will continue until something is done. Every day this food is being fed to our pets and unknowingly is causing illness & death for those who are not aware.



Theresa of Indianapolis IN (07/23/08)
I lost both my Italian greyhounds to what is believed to be ethyleneglycol poisoning. I want to once again state the fact that we do not have antifreeze and since the dogs had a fenced yard and were never and I do mean never unattended I believe they died as a direct result of eating Nutro Small Bites Lamb and Rice. That food is the only thing different that are dogs had in the week prior to their deaths.

When the autopsy was done it showed the the ethyleneglycol rading to be 4400 parts per million which I was told was extremely high to be regular antifreeze poisoning. Can anyone tell me what the normal antifreeze poisioning ratio is? So far I have not found anyone who can not even their vet. The FDA claims nothing was in that food when they tested. I believe they are missing something.


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« Reply #198 on: July 25, 2008, 05:59:39 AM »

In the consumer affairs article, pet owners mention ethylene glycol.  A similar sounding compound is propylene glycol.

From NRC's Nutrient Requirements of Dogs and Cats (2006) page 349:

Propylene glycol is "a humectant and antimicrobial preservative . . . It is codified as a GRAS general-purpose food additive for use in animal feed (21CFR 582.1666) . . .Its main purpose in petfoods is to allow them to retain larger percentages of water than would be possible in a dry dog or cat food without resulting in microbial growth and spoilage.  Therefore, it is especially useful in the formulation of semimoist foods.  It also provides calories and taste to the product."

" . . . studies confirmed that propylene glycol did cause oxidative damage at these levels in cats, which included a decrease in red blood cell half-life, increased susceptability to damage from other oxidants and disease processes, and changes in the liver and other organs.  The level at which these adverse effects were no longer observed was well below amounts needed for the compound to function as a humectant in semimoist foods.  Thus, propylene glycol was subsequently prohibited from use in the manufacture of cat foods, with specific note in the federal regulations that it is not GRAS for that intended use.  An informal exception that is not codified is made for its use as a carrier in fat-soluble vitamin premixes . . . Other compounds, such as glycerin and some organic acids, have been used to mimic the function of propylene glycol in these types of products . . . Although no work has been reported to show similar effects in dogs at these levels, some manufactures have substituted these other compounds for propylene glycol in dog formulations as well."

           
Here's a comparison of ethylene glycol and propylene glycol:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ethylene-propylene-glycol-d_904.html

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I hope the above information will help anyone who is testing food, as well as pet owners whose pet has been sicked (or worse) by Nutro.  Encourage your vet to "think outside the box" and consider how pet food is really made.

IMHO, it could be that 1) ethylene glycol was "accidently" used in the food, 2) propylene glycol was used in the food, 3) excessive amounts of propylene glycol was used in the pre-mix, 4) some "other chemicals", as mentioned above, were used.

Feed formulation is a complicated process.  It's easy to see how the wrong compound, or excess amounts of the correct compound may have been used.

Just one person's opinion.

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« Reply #199 on: July 25, 2008, 04:52:03 PM »

Lisa McCormick from CA called me on July 9 regarding my complaint to CA, FDA and Nutro.  At least as of that date, she was definitely still actively covering the Nutro problem.   
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« Reply #200 on: July 25, 2008, 07:04:06 PM »

I wonder whatever happened to the pet food testing that EWG was going to do, has anyone heard anything more since they had their money drive for that?  I donated quite a bit and would like to know if they are in the process of testing or waiting for more money or what?  Im feeling a bit snubbed EWG!   Wink
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« Reply #201 on: July 25, 2008, 11:35:23 PM »

Cross-posting this from the Nutro thread in the News Related section-

http://www.costar.com/News/Article.aspx?id=2694A9F80D51F0672AC0C334C2B95096

Closures and Layoffs July 24, 2008

"The following future closings and permanent mass layoffs were reported in California.

"Nutro Products Inc. is closing down and laying off 68 employees at 445 Wilson Way in the City of Industry and 50 employees at 18635 Gale Ave. in the City of Industry this week."

http://www.nutroproducts.com/contact.html

Nutro Products, Inc.
445 Wilson Way
City of Industry, CA 91744


This is not the Victorville plant--one of these addresses appears to be their corporate office.
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« Reply #202 on: July 26, 2008, 04:00:46 AM »

Hummmmmmm.  Another coincidence, I suppose. 

Good find, Menusux.

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« Reply #203 on: July 26, 2008, 07:54:03 AM »

Interesting!!!!  That is the plant my tainted dog food came from.  No reason given for the closure?Huh
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« Reply #204 on: July 26, 2008, 08:48:00 AM »

Do we know if either of these are actual plants or are they both corporate offices?  Seems to me they will need to change their FAQ statement at their website soon if either of these are plants...anothery mystery.....

http://www.nutroproducts.com/quality_facts.html.

 Have your plants closed? Is that why there are shortages?
 
A:    No. Our plants have not closed.  The shortages are due to the issues outlined above and have been largely resolved.   
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« Reply #205 on: July 26, 2008, 10:46:08 AM »

On my bag of food it just reads: Manufactured by:  Nutro Products, Inc., 445 Wilson Way, City of Industry, CA  91744.  I tried to email them to find out if it was an actual plant and/or a corporate office but, for some reason, my email would not go through.  I have emailed them before with no problem.  I called, but all I got was their hours Monday through Friday so I will try again Monday.  I don't know if any of the numbers on my bag would tell me which plant it came from.  Does anybody else know? 
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« Reply #206 on: July 26, 2008, 11:28:31 AM »

Luvmydog, I dont know the answer to your question but I hope someone here might.  Another question that comes to my mind is all the reports we have been seeing of people calling their toll free number and it just rings and rings.....Im wondering if this office or plant closure is why......
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« Reply #207 on: July 26, 2008, 12:00:59 PM »

I have been looking online for a list of their plants but no luck so far.  I did notice on Nutro's FAQ on their website they show how to read the codes on canned, pouch, and treats but not kibble.  The only question for kibble is :  What is the shelf life of kibble?  Their answer: If conditions ( and they state them - temperature, etc.) are right, 14 months.

Adrian from Nutro called me July 16 and was supposed to send me a packet so I could send them a sample of my dog food.  I did give her the information from the last two bags and the name and phone number of my vet.   When I started asking her questions, our conversation ended shortly thereafter.  As of today, I have not received the packet.  I told her I would send a sample but, actually, I didn't know if I would or not.  I had told them previously in an email I thought that was useless.

And the beat goes on..............................   
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« Reply #208 on: July 26, 2008, 01:18:24 PM »

Just a little something to add to the article that Menusux found above.....another confirmation of the layoffs, see page 3:

http://www.edd.ca.gov/Jobs_and_Training/warn/eddwarncnmz08.pdf
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« Reply #209 on: July 26, 2008, 05:54:30 PM »

Interesting about Victorville.. I found this in a list of approved company exports to China

http://big5.aqsiq.gov.cn/gate/big5/dzwjyjgs.aqsiq.gov.cn/fwdh/qymd/dwqymd/gwqymd/200805/P020080606397968905119.doc


NR-USA-004   CA-PF0-0024
SAGEBRUSH PROPERTIES, INC.
AKA NUTRO PRODUCTS, INC
13243 Nutro Way
Victorville, CA  92392

TEL: 760-261-7900
   7/27/2006
   2/21/2008   APHIS Last Validated Inspection Date
   Pet food containing poultry and fish
   Poultry, fish
   pet food
   poultry, fish

NR-USA-009   CA-PF0-0001
NUTRO PRODUCTS, INC
445 Wilson Way
City of Industry, CA 91744

TEL:626-968-0532
   5/20/2005
   3/07/2007  APHIS Last Validated Inspection Date   
Pet food containing poultry and fish   
Poultry and fish   
Pet food   Poultry,  fish


(also at the Wilson Way Address: Greenies Consumer Care 445 Wilson Way, City of Industry, CA 91744. Call us: Toll-free phone 1-866-GREENIES Fax: 626-322-2013)

Nutro Products Locations
Location Type: Headquarters
445 Wilson Way
City of Industry, CA 91744
United States
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