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« Reply #135 on: July 14, 2008, 05:48:02 PM » |
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That would be interesting news if recalled food is back on the market.
The Federal court granted these scumbags permission to dispose of massive quantities of pet food they been holding. A ballpark guess is we're talking about on the order of 50 million pounds of poisoned pet food. No oversight whatsoever as to how that is to be accomplised in such a way as to insure it doesn't make its way back into pet food in one form or another.
Pets need more voices to shout with, even if the words are in four letters. I sort of figure wressling is for people who can't shoot straight, but if he can get the deleted pet food companies in an unsportsman like grip, more power to him.
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« Reply #136 on: July 14, 2008, 06:08:12 PM » |
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So true Don, I'll gladly be his cheerleader if he can help accomplish something. I hope we hear more about his situation and his dog. I'll have to go look at his doggie at the myspace page.
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« Reply #137 on: July 14, 2008, 06:13:51 PM » |
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That would be interesting news if recalled food is back on the market.
The Federal court granted these scumbags permission to dispose of massive quantities of pet food they been holding. A ballpark guess is we're talking about on the order of 50 million pounds of poisoned pet food. No oversight whatsoever as to how that is to be accomplised in such a way as to insure it doesn't make its way back into pet food in one form or another.
I agree, it would be so easy for the PFI to dispose of this poison via the rendering plant! From there - back into being made into NEW petfood! YIKES!!! |
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Carol
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« Reply #138 on: July 15, 2008, 09:30:31 AM » |
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Looks like complaints are still coming in...these two are new... http://consumeraffairs.com/pets/nutro.html
Shannon of San Anotnio TX (07/13/08)
I have two dogs and have always feed them Nutro. I switched to the Blue Brand recently for the wet food however keep them on the Nutra Ultra dry food. The reason for the switch late last year I noticed that the Nutro Lamb and Rice wet food had green things in the food. They were almost pee like little green balls. I knew something was not right.
I went back to Petsmart and they told me they would give me a credit. I still had the food at home. So I called Nutro and talked to a young man named Rich. Told him about my issue and he said he was going to send me a bag and coupons for replacement food. I said okay and waited weeks, nothing come. I still had the food and called again. I was told again that I would get sent a return box to send back the food and some coupons. A few more weeks go by and again nothing came. By now its the end of January and I started looking for new food.
During the time they ate this food I did notice that my dogs seemed withdrawn, and lethargic. My one dog would itch and itch and itch. He never had a problem prior but even today he just itches. I took him to the vet and he said there is no reason he should be itching. Now I have to say I think it is related to this food. After reading teh CA article about 6 dogs passing. I wont take the chance. I am goign to try and find a new dry food and fast. I have been a loyal Nutro fan for a long time and am disappointed because now I believe there maybe something that Nutro foods are not sharing with us.
Debbie of Clovis CA (07/13/08)
This morning I went out to feed my dog. He turned his nose at the food and drank his water instead. I asked my husband what was up with him and he said he was sure it was the food. About six weeks ago we purchased a 35 pound bag of Nutro Max Natural for our Chesapeake Bay Retriever. The day after the first consumption he threw up all over the yard and for a 4 days following he continued with vomiting and diarrhea. Honestly I figured it was a change in food that caused the problem so we mixed his old food 3/4 to 1/4 of his new food and noticed that he did better, still soft stools and this gagging choking thing. He did begin to turn his nose up at his dog food more and more.
With the heat, this is high BBQ season in our area and our extended family always saves leftovers for Chance and he has had quite of supplement to his dog food. Still he has lost weight. I am sure you would think that I should have picked up on something - maybe the fact that our Maltese puppy ocassionally threw up when he got to Chance's food-no more than a morsel because Chance does not share. Both dogs have developed goopy eyes and ears and Chance had a lesion on his chest on Monday that I noticed while bathing him. Also, for the first time I have noticed Chance dragging his bottom on the grass to itch an irritation. Still, I let it all go because we have other issues at home, my husband has Stage IV metastatic Adenocarcinoma with chemo every 14 days.
Sadly my dogs are not getting the attention they need or deserve because of the time and energy we spend trying to grab a hold of this condition and it's daily toll on our lives. We purchsed the Nutro because I felt bad about buying the cheapest dog food I could find and wanted a higher quality for Chance who I felt I could give a better tasting and quality food to make up for the lack of time I had not had to spend with him. The cost of the food was 3X what I had been spending and was a toll on us. Usually the food last 3 weeks, this one has lasted this long because he has no interest in it. We have about 5 lbs left. Seems he is smarter than I am.
This morning something clicked when I looked at Chance and his matted eyes and thought about the lesion and noticed the weight loss and decided to come in and look up Nutro and almost fell over. The thought that I could be slowly poisioning my dogs. Can I have my dog food tested? I can't afford care for the dogs, if I could I would but honestly it's my husbands life or theirs. I feel horrible.
Economics damage is the cost of food and the home remedies we have purchased to try to fix the symptoms that I did not put together. Not to mention the unspent monies that need to be spent to care for these dogs. Physically they both need treatment, losing these dogs at this point when we are about to lose my husband would devaste my children as young as 6. I am so upset.
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« Reply #139 on: July 15, 2008, 09:48:57 AM » |
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It goes on and on, doesn't it?
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« Reply #141 on: July 15, 2008, 12:52:54 PM » |
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A vet came to the class yesterday, asking if he could audit the course. I have no problem with that at all. Afterwards, he spent some time telling me his experience with Nutro. I am fully aware that this is anecdotal evidence only. I did invite him to come by the forum here, so it could be first person.
He had two dogs from two different families get very ill with liver/pancreatic issues. Both dogs were on Nutro. He had a receptionist call the company to try to set up a time he could speak with a vet, a food scientist, or someone in quality assurance. The Nutro rep told the receptionist that would not be happening. Dr. K. called the company himself. The rep denied there were any problems with the food, told him it was a big internet hoax, and in his words, treated him like a crackpot reporting an alien abduction. He was told his clients were probably lying to him and had given their dogs Tylenol and chicken skin. He's known those people for years and doesn't think they would lie like that. He said that even if it turns out they did lie, he should have been able to talk to a so-called expert at Nutro.
I did tell him about Consumer Affairs. They might be interested in his story.
For me it is a confirmation that the customer service at Nutro went from zero to the negative column.
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« Reply #142 on: July 15, 2008, 01:51:27 PM » |
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AAAARGH! Do the Nutro people not think that this vet and others will share these experiences? Guess they think they're pulling something over on us . . . never again!!
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« Reply #143 on: July 15, 2008, 02:03:14 PM » |
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Arlo, I am absolutely shocked that Nutro would dismiss this vet's concerns like that! This is a professional making valid enquiries to a company than makes petfood for pets he treats everyday! I have no words to express my disgust with that Nutro rep! It really reflects so poorly on the company he represents!
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« Reply #144 on: July 15, 2008, 02:21:01 PM » |
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Dr. K said Nutro is not the only company with problems. He feels they're all changing factories, vendors of ingredients, formulations, etc., causing so much variation that pets almost need to be transitioned lot-to-lot. And these lovely companies are not notifying vets of the changes. How can he recommend food, when next month it may be different. He does farm calls and is seeing feed issues, too. He said the pet food and feed companies tell him it's not a problem.
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« Reply #145 on: July 15, 2008, 02:50:07 PM » |
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Sounds like a good guy ~ too bad the vet associations can't bring some pressure to bear on these "food" producers. Sounds like feeding our pets (even ourselves) is a bit of a crap shoot anymore. No wonder our poor critters are having such digestive problems.
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« Reply #146 on: July 15, 2008, 07:19:03 PM » |
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Arlo the coverup just goes on and on and gets deeper and deeper. Can't wait for the proof to surface indicating what is it in the food that is doing this to the pets? This company could very well be hiding something that only absolute proof and a class action lawsuit will bring forth the truth as to what disabling ingredient(s) are harming pets. Pls let me know if there is ever a class action suit in the making as I want to be included to represent my dog.
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« Reply #147 on: July 16, 2008, 06:41:03 AM » |
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http://www.wrestling-news.com/artman/publish/article_3760.shtmlBob Barker always said you can control the Pet population by having your pet spaded. Sadly Don Tony discovered another way. Feed your pet Nutro brand dog food. A serious warning to pet owners feeding their pets Nutro brand food. And a serious legitimate threat towards the store that sold him poisoned food (link: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/06/pet_food_recalls98.html)..This was on this weeks'---I'm off to listen now ...
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« Reply #148 on: July 16, 2008, 07:26:52 AM » |
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He mentions Don Earl of pfpsa.org sent him the CA article and he is really mad---he chose different words...I still don't know if the food was from the recall dates or it was the same as the complaints at CA now...he states he wants a public apology from the pet store where he bought it and if he doesn't get one he will force feed Nutro dog food packets to the first clerk he sees at the store...... it is really strong language still----sorry but an upset pet owner is an upset pet owner and I will overlook his vocab again! of course I should have typed Don Earl of pfpsa.org and Itchmoforums!  Glad you're one of us Don. |
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« Reply #149 on: July 16, 2008, 08:38:41 AM » |
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Dr. K. called the company himself. The rep denied there were any problems with the food, told him it was a big internet hoax, and in his words, treated him like a crackpot reporting an alien abduction.
This is no different from Natura's response to us of "no other complaints", "no problems" and Midwest Labs' response that it was a "hoax and propaganda". |
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