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« on: April 18, 2008, 07:48:20 AM »

Thank goodness this site is still making pet food news!

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/04/pet_food_recalls93.html

 A worrisome health trend among dogs and cats across the country has surfaced in the past few months. Scores of pets from California to South Carolina have experienced sudden and recurring bouts of diarrhea, vomiting, and other digestive problems. Through an examination of reports submitted by readers, ConsumerAffairs.com has uncovered a common link among these pets: They all ate NUTRO pet food.
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2008, 07:53:46 AM »

I just sent "trout's" thread to consumeraffairs.com--just in case! Wink


Lisa Wade McCormick is certainly turning into our pets' best friend!!
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2008, 08:04:43 AM »

Carol,

Let's get a photo of the foreign object up here so people can see it.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/04/pet_food_recalls93.html

"ConsumerAffairs.com also heard from a South Carolina pet owner, who discovered what she calls "foreign" objects in her recent bags of NUTRO food.

"In two of the last five bags I've fed my dogs, I've found pieces of something that look like nylon," said Lori W. "I found one piece stuck out from one end and hooked through a piece of kibble. It was maybe one-half inch long. Most are a lot thinner."


Unidentified object found in Lori W.'s NUTRO pet food

"After making these discoveries, Lori switched her six dogs to another brand of food.

""I don't know, maybe that's supposed to be in there," she said. "But I'm transitioning my dogs to another food. I'm not panicked, but I got concerned after reading the other comments (on ConsumerAffairs.com). I can't deny that I found something in the food that I've never noticed before."

"Lori also said one of her dogs -- an eight-year-old German Shepherd-Great Dane mix -- recently became ill after eating some NUTRO food.

""But that could be totally coincidence," she said. "Rufus has had bouts of soft stools and diarrhea since we've had him. But now I wonder if he had some sensitivity to NUTRO…after we opened that last bag of NUTRO, he got sick."

"She added: "I loved NUTRO and would love to continue loving it, but I'm just not comfortable with the food right now.""
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2008, 08:09:07 AM »

thanks menusux--Good idea--I never know how much to post--- Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2008, 08:31:02 AM »

Oh I just now got their title too, duh!  "String" of illnesses.....for those like me who are a little slow.  Roll Eyes How disgusting is that?   Ive sent this link to CVM and FDA.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2008, 08:39:43 AM »

Also sent it to Pet Food Institute and Pet Food Industry magazine.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2008, 08:43:22 AM »

Yet the pet food company shills are still out there, even trying to discredit sites like consumeraffairs.  I ran across this yesterday when looking at something else.  See post #16 by 2dogmom.  (#13 and #15 may be of interest too LOL.)

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163912&page=2

They will stop at nothing to sell their products.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2008, 08:50:52 AM »

I sent the link to Gina at PC (and hope USA Today picks it up), NBC News, Mike Floyd, Cathy MacIvor--and

who else can we think of?

I also sent trout's thread "just in case" it helps to open more investigation? Shocked
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2008, 08:53:47 AM »

Yet the pet food company shills are still out there, even trying to discredit sites like consumeraffairs.  I ran across this yesterday when looking at something else.  See post #16 by 2dogmom.  (#13 and #15 may be of interest too LOL.)

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163912&page=2

They will stop at nothing to sell their products.

Catbird--how about reply #17?  Grin

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showpost.php?s=14bffe5c67a0cbd09d11404076b5aee8&p=2258919&postcount=17

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"There's another one called 'consumeraffairs dot com' that is there for the purpose of gathering clients for lawsuits -especially class-action. They make no secret of the fact that they are allied with a personal injury law firm. Also if you do like you are going to post a complaint yourself, you get a message saying that unless you UNcheck the box, one of their attorneys just might contact you. They say they screen what is posted, but they are not vets so I do not trust one single item of information on that site."


"Very true.. it is unfortunate that instead of making sure something is a FACT they let it be one without verifiyng

"Itchmo is good for the TESTING aspect as some are paying for the foods to be tested ..."
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2008, 08:56:49 AM »

I know nothing about the consumer affairs web site, except that I have followed links there on occasion.

Regarding this link:  Let me say this about people with sick cats "posting up a storm on the internet".  Thank goodness they do!!  How else would we have known there was a problem? 

I should have put 2 + 2 together back in January/February of 2007 when the grocers' shelves were bare of a product that was subsequently recalled.

I still didn't put 2 + 2 together when I called said company (later to be recalled) and asked why my grocer didn't have their product, nor did another store I checked.  I needed that for my sick (now deceased) cat who wouldn't eat.   The customer service person just started mumbling and couldn't give me an answer as to the availability problem.  But she sent me coupons!  Of course, from what we later learned, they already knew there was a big problemo, but didn't let their customers in on it in a timely manner.

Excuse me, if enough pet parents had been able to put 2 + 2 together back in 2006 when cats and dogs were getting sick and subsequently "posted up a storm", maybe 2007 would not have happened.  Burying your collective heads in the sand and assuming everything is A-OK ain't gonna cut it.  Not for my cats and dog anyway. 
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2008, 08:57:28 AM »

Yet the pet food company shills are still out there, even trying to discredit sites like consumeraffairs.  I ran across this yesterday when looking at something else.  See post #16 by 2dogmom.  (#13 and #15 may be of interest too LOL.)

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163912&page=2

They will stop at nothing to sell their products.

Catbird--how about reply #17?  Grin

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showpost.php?s=14bffe5c67a0cbd09d11404076b5aee8&p=2258919&postcount=17

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"There's another one called 'consumeraffairs dot com' that is there for the purpose of gathering clients for lawsuits -especially class-action. They make no secret of the fact that they are allied with a personal injury law firm. Also if you do like you are going to post a complaint yourself, you get a message saying that unless you UNcheck the box, one of their attorneys just might contact you. They say they screen what is posted, but they are not vets so I do not trust one single item of information on that site."


"Very true.. it is unfortunate that instead of making sure something is a FACT they let it be one without verifiyng

"Itchmo is good for the TESTING aspect as some are paying for the foods to be tested ..."

I make no bones about me being interviewed by consumeraffairs.com (as they are the only ones to listen in my case) and I NEVER ONCE had them talk to me about getting me an attorney or the possiblity of an attorney because of their contact with me---NEVER EVER!!  And that is a fact! Angry
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2008, 09:07:06 AM »

Sorry for my rant (certainly not directed at you guys here sorry)---let's get back on topic!  Tongue

Who else can we send this too??? And where has trout gone? Huh
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2008, 09:15:57 AM »

Carol,

You had a lot of contact with ConsumerAffairs and you NEVER were pushed to do anything.  They were the only ones at the time willing to listen.

If the website wasn't credible, let's ask how this happened back in September 2007:

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/09/pet_food_recalls75.html

Wal-Mart Attacks Lab Tests that Found Lead, Chromium in Pet Toys
Threatens legal action to silence independent lab's reports
ConsumerAffairs |September 19, 2007

"Late Monday afternoon, Melissa O’Brien of Wal-Mart's corporate communication division, sent us an e-mail saying Wal-Mart disputed ExperTox’s results. She also said we would be hearing from her company's lawyers.

"She said ExperTox “severely misinterpreted” the findings.

“"After reviewing these test results provided to us today on the pet products in your story . . . the results of these tests actually prove the products are VERY safe,” O’Brien wrote. “If these measurements are in fact the results, as you have reported, they have been severely misinterpreted by the director of ExperTox’s lab, if he is reporting these levels to be ‘high’ or dangerous.

“"To the contrary by this lab's own report, these levels are considered very low and actually much lower than what is acceptable by regulatory bodies in the U.S. and Europe for products, including children's toys,” she said.

"O’Brien referred to what’s called the ASTM F-963 – or the Standard Consumer Safety Specification on Toy Safety. She said that has a limit of 90 parts per million for accessible lead in toys.

"She also said the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) has a limit of 600 parts per million for the total lead in surface coating.

“"By comparison, the highest concentration of lead found in any of the ExperTox tests is a very low 907.4 parts per million -- nearly 100 times less than the ASTM limit for toys and more than 600 times less than the CPSC limit for surface coatings.”

"Wal-Mart, she said, uses independent labs that specialize in consumer product testing and data analysis to avoid what she called such “misinterpretations.” She did not name any of those labs, however, and did not repeat her pledge that Wal-Mart would test the pet toys in question.

“"The conclusions drawn in this article appear to have been based on incorrect interpretations of the data, and based on the opinions of a person (who is) not an expert in consumer product testing,” said O'Brien, who did not stiuplate that she has any scientific credentials.

"O'Brien demanded the story be withdrawn and threatened legal action if it was not."

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/09/pet_food_recalls76.html

Industry Responds to Reports of Lead in Wal-Mart Pet Toys
'Poison is poison,' toxic metals specialist warns

Wal-Mart calls out its spin doctors

ConsumerAffairs| September 20, 2008

"Instead of following the lead of other toy industry players by redoubling its inspections, Wal-Mart called out its publicists and spin doctors from Edelman, which calls itself the "world's leading independent global PR firm," to try to discredit Lykissa and to try to intimidate ConsumerAffairs.Com. Wal-Mart, through its Edelman mouthpieces, also backed off an earlier pledge to re-inspect the toys.

"Meanwhile, Wal-Mart has gone on the defensive and attacked ExperTox’s findings. Melissa O’Brien, who identified herself as representing Wal-Mart's corporate communications department, said the lab “severely misinterpreted” the findings and demanded ConsumerAffairs.com retract the story. Other news organizations said O'Brien told them she worked for Edelman."

http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.san&s=49505&Nid=24192&p=82937

Pro-Wal-Mart Travel Blog Screeches To A Halt

October 12, 2006

"What do you call a phony blog that's actually a front for a huge corporation? A "flog"?

"A pro-Wal-Mart blog called "Wal-Marting Across America," ostensibly launched by a pair of average Americans chronicling their cross-country travels in an RV and lodging in Wal-Mart parking lots, has been reduced to a farewell entry. One of its two contributors was revealed to be Jim Thresher, a staff photographer for The Washington Post.

"The blog, launched Sept. 27, was profiled in this week's issue of BusinessWeek, which exposed the site as a promotional tactic engineered by Working Families for Wal-Mart (WFWM), an organization launched by Wal-Mart's public relations firm Edelman. WFWM paid for the RV and all travel expenses, rerouted the trip's original plan, and plastered a logo on the RV's side. Though a banner ad announced WFWM sponsored the site, it did not divulge Wal-Mart paid for the couple's RV, gas, food and other expenses."


The people with credibility problems here are W-M and Edelman, not ConsumerAffairs.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2008, 09:24:53 AM »

And it might be hard for those folks to dispute the little piece of string coming out of the piece of kibble......the picture says it all.   Carol, Im still trying to think of more places to send that article.  If anyone can think of more places that would be great to get the word out....
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2008, 01:00:52 PM »

Just bumping this up for those of you just joining us today!!!  Interesting read--thanks again to Lisa! Wink  Let's keep this in the news---still need to fight for safe food for all of us --2 leggers too!! Grin
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