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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2008, 06:45:52 PM » |
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I just read about this on a yahoo group. According to the post, they are adding 3 more grains, rice bran, peas, potatoes, tomato pomace, "natural flavor", and listing ocean fish meal now instead of herring meal. And now they are selling 44lb bags instead of the old formula 40lb bag.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2008, 07:22:13 PM » |
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Last time I looked at Canidae on May 29 the only formula that changed was the Lamb and rice. I changed title of thread I was floored when I read canidae all life stages original new formula, rice and potatoes and pearled barley, not to mention the other additions. Isnt barley in the wheat family, which if a pet has wheat allergy I would think they may have problem with new formula, maybe I am mistaken. Here is link for overview of new formulas for cats and dogs http://www.canidae.com/new-formulas.html kathy |
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petslave
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 07:31:35 PM » |
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The post I read was also just referring to Lamb & Rice, but it does look like they are changing all the formulas now. It seems like they are stretching the ingredients with some lower quality fillers, like has happened with some of the other better pet foods in the past few years. I wonder if they will lose buyers from this.
This line of foods is on the low end of cost for the 'more premium' foods, plus it became very popular during the recalls. So they may have been having a hard time making enought profit & producing enough food.
My sister's new dog did OK on it when they adopted her earlier this year, then she started having trouble with it. I didn't realize the formula had changed, so I bet she has some allergies to some of the new ingredients.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2008, 08:00:18 PM » |
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The original formula before the change, the ingredients were fine for RC . Kept this brand in the back of my mind in case of a emergency or if I couldnt get what he eats know. But now with the cracked pearled barley and the potatoes, and it looks like splitting of grains. Rc could not have this at all. I imagine the animals that have allergies will be changing, will have to check the lab board later to see how this is going over.
Petslave, Thank You for bringing this back up ,it had slipped my mind to check Canidae's site
kathy
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2008, 09:07:10 PM » |
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I'm not sure why I didn't see your original post in May, but that probably would have saved my sister some money & her dog some problems if I had read it sooner!
It looks like they have so many carbs in there now, and such a different mix, it seems a lot of dogs will not be able to eat this now. Potatoes, rice & rice bran, barley, millet, peas.
(haven't even checked out the cat food changes yet - come to think of it, my sister's cat started refusing this food recently too!)
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2008, 09:35:06 PM » |
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 LOOSE STOOLS- Time to change foods. I saw no notice at the store about any change and flipped when there were problems. Bag returned because of lighter color of food. I thought something was wrong with the food. Very unhappy.
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petslave
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2008, 09:45:26 PM » |
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That's what happened to my sister's dog, very loose stool with a very grainy look. Obviously not digesting it well. Her dog seems to be allergic to a lot of foods, same with my two dogs, so the food changes may not be a problem for 'normal' dogs.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 12:32:48 AM » |
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petslave all dogs were 'normal' til consuming food that had been adulterated or the formula changed. The consistency of the canned canidae I was not real fond of when I had used it for a short while with my other dog and never bought any of their dried brand. How can these companies ramp up the grain part when grains are going to be so expensive in the fall since all the flooding of the prime farmland?
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2008, 11:20:38 AM » |
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On their website, they say they are actually lowering carbs now: "Did you raise the level of carbohydrates? No, our overall carbohydrate contents are lower. By diversifying our allergen free complex carbohydrates, we actually lowered the total carbohydrate content in all products. To reiterate, we simply diversified highly digestible quality carbohydrates while lowering the total carbohydrate content." But they also say this: "Is cracked pearled barley in the wheat family? No, barley is polished and cracked to create cracked pearled barley. The polishing removes the inedible hull from the kernel, while cracking it improves digestibility. Barley is not related with the wheat family in any way, and is not known to create allergies" Now this may be getting a little picky here, but sorry Canidae, barley & wheat ARE in the same plant family - the GRASSES. You might want to check your facts before you write incorrect info! Grass family includes wheat, barley, rye, rice, corn, bamboo, sorghum, etcetc: http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph12.htm |
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2008, 11:29:29 AM » |
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Petslave, you are not picky at all. Poco's vet told me that a lot of dogs that have issues with wheat also have them with barley. Poco can't handle pet foods with barley, and it rules out a lot of them.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2008, 11:52:41 AM » |
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Well, that's interesting. When did they change from Pied Piper? That does look more like a Diamond-type recipe now that you mention that!
Klondike, I do remember you saying barley can be a allergenic for some dogs. I'm trying to find info but haven't had any luck yet. I put rolled barley in my big dogs' meals for a week & they got much itchier on it. Not so with rolled oats.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2008, 11:58:37 AM » |
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Aha! Wonder if Whole Dog Journal will include them in their best dry foods list next year with all these changes!
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2008, 06:26:15 PM » |
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From a lab board I read, someone posted about Canidae will have an additional new formula. went over to Canidae site there is a page where they are piecing together a puzzle board (there are pieces still missing). Canidea page says " Canidea delivers what you've been asking for" If you look at bottom of puzzle, to the right of black printing before the sunflowers there is a partial circle where grain is written and part of letter f . looks like they are coming out with a grain free formula. http://www.canidae.com/puzzle/3khkh7.html wonder if that has anything to do with diamond starting to make their food |
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