Another Problem With Evangers

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Another Problem With Evangers

« on: May 05, 2009, 05:17:19 PM »

I had a very interesting phone call today from a Special Agent with the OCI [office of criminal investigations at the FDA]. Apparently Evangers didn't do to well when they were reinspected after their special permit fiasco. Because of the bad inspections it was turned over to the OCI and they are very interested in speaking to anyone who had a problem with Evangers or any food they make for other companies. I told him to check here,at pfpsa and consumer affairs. He knows I am posting about this and hopes people will pm me with their info for contact or to get his. He didn't want me to post his name and # publically.If anyone can think of other websites he should check please let me know.If you are on other sites where people had trouble,please post this there also.Also if any of you are using any food they make,you may want to reconsider continuing it.


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Re: Another Problem With Evangers

« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 08:01:13 PM »

I'm glad you posted, lesliek. I was alerted to your post on another forum and that was a warning shot for myself and another forum member who were in the process of special ordering a food Evangers manufactures (thought it was manufactured by Menu). I may have to pay to ship it back, but off it goes!


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Re: Another Problem With Evangers

« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 08:33:20 PM »

How about listing any food canned at any Evangers plant that is sold by other companies in this thread. That way it will be handy for reference.


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Re: Another Problem With Evangers

« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 09:05:52 PM »

Thank you very much for posting, lesliek.

From the Evanger's website
http://www.evangersdogfood.com/dog/superpremium.html

Evanger's Dog Food:
We have over seventy years experience and knowledge in making
extraordinary pet foods. With our dedication to canine and feline health and out desire to make innovative new products,
we are proud to offer the following Super Premium products.

Completely balanced, highly nutritious, great tasting innovative meals.

Cooked Chicken - Gold
All natural whole dressed chicken with chicken liver and broth for great taste and nutrition. 100% Meat Dog Food.

Beef with Chicken Gold Line for Dogs
All natural beef and whole dressed chicken combined with beef liver for palatability and healthy goodness.

All Fresh Vegetarian Dinner
A canine and feline dinner of fresh potatoes, carrots, peas, tomatoes, avocados, blueberries, and cranberries from the market place with brown rice makes a flavorful and complete dinner. A healthy choice for pets susceptible to food allergies.

Duck & Sweet Potato Dinner
Duck meats and golden sweet potatoes are a gourmet dinner and a wonderful source of fiber.

Beef Dinner with Chunks
100% select beef chunks are added to our premium beef loaf. Liver added for enhanced flavor. Enriched with chelated minerals and vitamins as well.

Cooked Chicken Dinner with Chunks
Chunks of chicken makes this dinner resemble a homemade meal.

Turkey Chunk Stew
Turkey chunks combined with ocean fish, fresh carrots, potatoes and brown rice serve up a delicious loaf-style stew.

Lamb & Rice - Gold Line for Dogs
Tender lamb with brown rice and vitamin and mineral enrichment do make this loaf-style a favorite. (Does not contain whole bones.)

Cooked Chicken-JUMBO
All natural whole dressed chicken with chicken liver and broth for great taste and nutrition. 100% Meat Dog Food now comes in a 22 oz. can! Great for large dogs or multi dog homes.

http://www.evangersdogfood.com/cat/
Evanger's Cat Food:

Evanger's Cat Food Varieties
Congratulations Evanger's! ORGANIC BRAISED CHICKEN
named 2006 Editor's Choice Award by CAT FANCY

http://www.evangersdogfood.com/about/kosher_list.html
KOSHER PRODUCTS
The following thirty products have been endorsed by the Chicago Rabbinical Council as acceptable for use by those who observe Jewish Law, and are free from any chometz which makes them acceptable for use during the Passover holidays:

DOG FOOD:

100% Beef for Dogs
100% Beef with Real Meat Chunks
100% Buffalo
100% Duck
100% Organic Chicken
100% Organic Turkey with Potato & Carrots
100% Pheasant
A Hunk of Beef
All Natural Puppy Food
Beef & Beef By-Products for Dogs
Beef with Beef Chunks Gold for Dogs
Beef Chunks Dinner for Dogs
Beef with Chicken for Dogs
Beef, Chicken & Liver for Dogs
Beef with Liver for Dogs
Chopped Beef Dinner for Dogs
Chopped Turkey Dinner for Dogs
Cooked Chicken for Dogs
Cooked Chicken with Real Meat Chunks
Duck & Sweet Potatoes
Hunk of Beef for Dogs
Lamb & Rice Dinner for Dogs
Senior Dinner for Dogs
Turkey Chunk Stew for Dogs
Whole Chicken Thighs

CAT FOOD:

Beef & Liver Dinner for Cats
Chicken Dinner for Cats
Chicken, Liver & Tuna for Cats
Seafood Dinner for Cats
Whole Mackerel with Gravy

http://www.evangersdogfood.com/private/

Private Label
Evanger's first became involved producing canned Super Premium Dog & Cat Food in the private label market in the early 1960's and it has become the bulk of our business today. Our formula specialists can provide you with the right type of food for your needs, or you can supply us with a formula of your own. Order one batch at a time, a full truckload, or anything in-between. We can provide delicious gourmet dinners made from innovative recipes, as well as traditional formulas. We offer 100% meat varieties to supplement and mix with your dry dog food. Our unique flavorful game meats complete our line to give you endless varieties for even the fussiest eater! Now available in three can sizes: 22 oz., 13.0 oz., and 5.5 oz.

We specialize in:

All Meat Varieties
Complete Super-Premium Dinners
Exotic Meats

With over 70 years experience in animal nutrition, Evanger's can help you accomplish your Private Label needs in Domestic and International markets.

If you want your label around a Top Quality Product, give us a call


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Re: Another Problem With Evangers

« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 09:41:39 PM »

Leslie, there were also complaints at this site, I didnt know if you knew or not so thought I would post the link to it: http://efoodalert.blogspot.com/2008/04/safety-warning-on-evangers-dog-and-cat.html

I am very glad to see FDA taking an interest in potential problems with pet food & PFC's, I hope to see them continuing to take more interest/action in the future. Maybe the days of staus quo with the PFC's are coming to an end....all I can do is hope!


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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 09:43:42 PM »

http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/shop_brands.asp?brand%5Fid=607
From petfooddirect.com:

Dogs
Organic Food & Treats:
Evanger's Organic Cooked Chicken Dinner For Dogs
Evanger's Organic Turkey With Potatoes And Carrots Dinner For Dogs

Senior Canned Food:
Evanger's Complete Classic Senior Dinner Canned Dog Food

Treats & Biscuits
Evanger's Nothing But Natural Buffalo, Fruit & Vegetable Jerky Dog Treat
Evanger's Nothing But Natural Organic Chicken, Fruit & Vegetables Jerky Dog Treat
Evanger's Nothing But Natural Pheasant, Fruit & Vegetable Jerky Dog Treat
Evanger's Nothing But Natural Venison, Fruit & Vegetable Jerky Dog Treat

Canned Dog Food
Evanger's All Meat Natural 100% Beef and Bacon Canned Dog Food
Evanger's All Meat Natural 100% Beef Formula
Evanger's All Meat Natural 100% Beef with Chicken Formula
Evanger's All Meat Natural 100% Cooked Chicken Formula
Evanger's All Meat Natural Beef with Chicken & Liver Formula
Evanger's All Meat Natural Beef with Liver Formula
Evanger's All Natural Lamb & Rice Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Complete Classic Chicken and Rice Dinner Canned Dog Food
Evanger's Complete Classic Puppy Dinner Canned Dog Food
Evanger's Complete Classic Senior Dinner Canned Dog Food
Evanger's Organic Cooked Chicken Dinner For Dogs
Evanger's Organic Turkey With Potatoes And Carrots Dinner For Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Beef Dinner For Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Buffalo Dinner
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Chicken Dinner For Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Duck Dinner For Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Pheasant Dinner
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Rabbit Dinner
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Venison Dinner For Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Beef & Chicken Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Beef with Chunks Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Cooked Chicken Formula Canned Dog Food
Evanger's Super Premium Cooked Chicken with Chunks Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Duck & Sweet Potato Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Hand Packed Specialties Chunky Chicken Casserole Dinner For Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Hand Packed Specialties Braised Beef Chunks with Gravy Dinner For Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Hand Packed Specialties Hunk of Beef Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Lamb & Rice Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Nature's Vegetarian Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Hand Packed Specialties Roasted Chicken Drummets Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Turkey Chunk Stew Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Hand Packed Specialties Whole Chicken Thighs Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Hand Packed Specialties Whole Mackerel with Gravy Dinner

Dry Dog Food:
Evanger's Super Premium Chicken & Brown Rice Dog Food
Evanger's Super Premium Pheasant & Brown Rice Dog Food

Chicken Flavor Dog Treats:
Evanger's Nothing But Natural Organic Chicken, Fruit & Vegetables Jerky Dog Treat

Jerky Dog Treats
Evanger's Nothing But Natural Buffalo, Fruit & Vegetable Jerky Dog Treat
Evanger's Nothing But Natural Venison, Fruit & Vegetable Jerky Dog Treat
Evanger's Nothing But Natural Pheasant, Fruit & Vegetable Jerky Dog Treat

Puppy Food:
Evanger's Complete Classic Puppy Dinner Canned Dog Food
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Beef Dinner For Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Buffalo Dinner
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Pheasant Dinner
Evanger's Super Premium 100% Rabbit Dinner
Evanger's Super Premium Hand Packed Specialties Hunk of Beef Dinner for Dogs
Evanger's Super Premium Hand Packed Specialties Whole Mackerel with Gravy Dinner

CATS:
Organic Food & Treats
Evanger's Organic Braised Chicken Canned Cat Food
Evanger's Organic Turkey & Butternut Squash Dinner Canned Cat Food

Canned Cat Food:
Evanger's Classic Beef and Liver Formula Canned Cat Food
Evanger's Classic Chicken Formula Canned Cat Food
Evanger's Gourmet Seafood Dinner for Cats
Evanger's Holistic Pheasant Dinner Canned Cat Food
Evanger's Organic Braised Chicken Canned Cat Food
Evanger's Organic Turkey & Butternut Squash Dinner Canned Cat Food
Evanger's Super Premium Seafood & Caviar Dinner for Cats
Evanger's Whole Mackerel & Gravy Canned Cat Food

Need to call in the sleuths for the private label products ...


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Re: Another Problem With Evangers

« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2009, 09:52:31 PM »

Its my understanding that Evangers does the canning for some Blue Seal products also, I dont know if they can all their products but I do know they can some like in this thread: http://itchmoforums.com/your-problems-with-pet-food/by-nature-organics-problem-t4064.0.html They also can Brandon Farms 95% meat cat food, I did check awhile back on that, it is a Blue Seal product canned by Evangers.


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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2009, 10:03:05 PM »

Information about who Evangers manufactures for from www.thepetfoodlist.com:

Evangers Dog and Cat Food Company, Inc.
221 Wheeling Road
Wheeling, IL
847-537-0102

Foods manufactured:
Artemis - Holistic Pet Food
Blackwood Pet Food
Canidae
Life4K9


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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2009, 11:15:05 PM »

This comment was left at this blog in late November, 2008:

http://health4uandpets.typepad.com/healthproducts/2008/04/fda-orders-evan.html?cid=140200252#comment-140200252

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Not surprising that the defense comments come right from the firm. Wed of this week, I split a can of beef chunks between my two 10-lb Pomeranians and half an hour later, rushed them to the emergency animal hospital. My animals went through hell; my little guy just got out yesterday afternoon and he still has seizures and can barely walk. Lets connect the dots here; they ate evangers food, and half an hour later, were unable to stand, or even hold up their heads. An hour later, they were both blind and fighting for their lives. 4 calls to Evangers have been unreturned, as well as 2 emails. My roommate called, and was hung up on, yet Joel Sher posted on another site that this didnt happen. Yes, it did happen. No amount of 'blowing this off' by Evangers will negate what happened. The food is on its way to the Univ of Md toxicology lab for testing. Its the ONLY thing they ingested. Like I said earlier, you connect the dots!

Posted by: Cinammon and Thunder | November 23, 2008 at 04:02 PM

The person posting indicates that the problems happened in November; he/she says "Wed of this week, I split a can of beef chunks between my two 10-lb Pomeranians and half an hour later, rushed them to the emergency animal hospital." and the post was made November 23, 2008--quite a while after the emergency operating permit was called for in April 2008.

Here's something else the FDA might want to look at--Evanger's is exported:

http://www.uspetfoodexports.com/brands.cfm

E. Tu Associates-Exporters of Quality Pet Foods & Pet Products:

"E.Tu Associates works with over 30 North American pet products companies. Among the brands we represent are:

"Evanger's is a manufacturer of super premium canned pet foods. Evanger's features their Hand-Packed Specialties line, Super Premium Gold line, Organic line, and 100% Meat & Poultry line. In addition, Evanger's offers complimentary dry foods in Chicken with Brown Rice and Pheasant with Brown Rice formulas. Evanger's also welcomes the opportunity to work with companies to develop private label formulations."

http://www.uspetfoodexports.com/company.cfm

"E. Tu Associates was founded in 1982 with the goal of helping companies in the Cincinnati region expand their sales to Asian countries. Over the course of time, our mission has narrowed to a focus on the export of pet foods and pet products from North America to markets around the world.

"E. Tu Associates currently works with about thirty different manufacturers of pet foods and pet products allowing us to offer a full range of products to importers and distributors worldwide.

"For North American manufacturers, E. Tu Associates develops and manages export markets. We also work with manufacturers to create successful global strategies.

"For overseas importers, we offer products to meet specific market needs. E. Tu Associates can also source products, lines, and brands from North American manufacturers.

"E. Tu Associates also works with American importers helping them to source new items, negotiate pricing, oversee import logistics, and implement import programs."

Market Development & Management Documentation
Sales Certification
International Strategies Registration
Logistics Branding
Distribution Private Labeling

"...if it is related to the export or import of pet foods and pet products, E. Tu Associates has the experience and expertise to help you accomplish your goals."


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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2009, 11:26:31 PM »

The quote from the site menusux mentioned is from the same lady who posted on the site Sandi mentioned in her post. I am not disbelieving her story, but, since she had the food tested, it would be helpful if she could have followed up with the results of that test. Undecided


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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2009, 04:00:07 AM »

This is my email back 2/24/09 when I emailed Dave's asking who made their food and what tests they do....Dave Ratner answered me with this..and my email told him I was sharing his answer unless he said no...

hi there,
thanks for picking up the food. the delectable dinner loaf type is made by evangers, the 95 venison is made by menu, in the next couple of weeks there will be 2 more 95% meats at critter hut made by evangers, a 95 chicken and a 95 beef. Why two different manufacturers? good question. because they each do certain things really well. yup, that Chinese stuff was pretty nasty.
the only good news, if there is such a thing is that now there is finally such an uproar over what happened that protocals and new testing are in place. too bad they weren't in place before!!
please let me know how your babiesdo on the food and if you feel like it, email a pic for us to put on the web site.
thanks so much,
dave

http://www.davespetfood.com/home/


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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 05:54:30 AM »

Thanks everyone,I posted at those 2 sites as well as the petfoodlist & emailed petconnection. Will also email Lisa McCormick when I get home. Remember they want to talk to everyone who had trouble,even if it was finding odd things in the food. Test results will help,but they are trying to find out what all the problems have been. I seem to remember posting at 2-3 other sites when company people were denying the FDA order,but am having trouble finding them,if any of you remember or did that also please let me know.


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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2009, 06:16:42 AM »

Leslie, was this one of them you were thinking of? http://petsitusa.com/blog/?p=1125


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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2009, 06:18:19 AM »

Thanks Sandi, it was !


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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2009, 06:23:01 AM »

And this one where Holly Sher posted a statement: http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/24/fda-requires-evangers-to-get-emergency-permit/


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