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« on: April 14, 2008, 07:02:37 AM »

.I only copied this as an email i got . i don't know anything about the product.

DO NOT USE PROMERIS ON YOUR PETS !!!!

> Dear List,
> I would like to advise you of the problem I had last week with the
> new ProMeriS Flea and Tick treatment, put out by Fort Dodge.
> I am sharing this story, with the hope of saving someone else's beloved
> pet.
> I stopped by my Vet to purchase Frontline for Fleas and Ticks, as I
> had began to notice a few on my 2 Great Pyr dogs, since the warmer
> weather has arrived. She suggested a new product, that she thought I
> should try, so I agreed. The next day I applied the treatment to both my
> dogs, and almost immediately, one began to act kind of strange. Later
> that evening, she became desperately ill. Her entire body was jerking all
> over and she was breathing rapidly. She was also having some gastric
> distress, like she had eaten something that had made her ill, or at worst
> had possibly been poisioned. Then I remembered applying the ProMeris,
> earlier, and her acting odd. When I called my Vet, she knew immediately
> what it was and by the
> time I got there, she had called Fort Dodge, and they had agreed to pay
> the Vet's bills. An IV was started ASAP, and I was told that there
> was an antedote for ProMeris. It had apparently attacked her nervous
> system, and it could not be reversed. She died the next
> day.........they had her shipped immediately to a facility for a complete
> necropsy. I
> asked my Vet why, and was told that they needed it done for their
> "research". Could this product still be in the testing stage??? I am so
> angry, and so hurt over this, and I can never replace my sweet girl. I
> suppose that I am fortunate that my other female, didn't have the same
> reaction, and appears to be okay.
>
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 08:01:05 AM »

Trudy:

Curious as to where you got this info.  I just sent it out in an email to all my buds with animals but just in case they ask where I got it......I'd like to know.

If you don't want to do so publicly, PM me.

Thanks.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 12:07:56 PM »

From the web site........

ProMeris Duo is the only product available from a veterinarian that contains the active flea control ingredient, metaflumizone.
This new compound features an exclusive mode of action that attacks fleas’ nervous system by blocking neuronal sodium channels, which results in paralysis and death of the flea.
Metaflumizone has never before been used to control fleas and research shows they are readily susceptible.
Metaflumizone is proven to control 2 flea species (Ctenocephalides canis and C. felis) and protect against re-infestation for up to six weeks in dogs.
ProMeris Duo for dogs can be used as part of a treatment strategy for flea allergy dermatitis.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 01:00:57 PM »

Don't like the sounds of that (chemical that has never been used before to control fleas?  Does this also mean never before used on a dog?  NOT on my dog, thank you)......also don't like that it attacks the nervous system of the flea.  What about the nervous system of a dog?  The dog jerking around sounds to me like the stuff had affected the dog's nervous system.  I can't even imagine what that poor pet parent must have gone through.

This is downright scary.  Won't be using that anytime soon.  What next?  Nevermind, I'd rather not know. Angry
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 01:29:18 PM »

It was on My bengals list. that's really all i know.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2008, 01:45:48 PM »

Anybody know if this stuff is approved in the USA?  I can't find anything when I use its name plus FDA in the same search.  All I get is European links.

If you go down 3/4 of the page, there are some posts about it. 

http://www.elversonpuzzle.com/biospotlettersv15.html

I thought seizures and neurological reactions were the usual adverse reactions to flea products rather than the exception.  Scares the hell out of me.   In fact, all flea products scare the hell out of me.  Hate when I have to use them, especially on cats.  When my dogs had mange last year, they wanted me to dose all the cats with ivermectin (used for fleas and sarcoptic mange) just in case.  I wouldn't do it.  Fortunately, the cats didn't contract it from the dogs.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 02:28:30 PM »

Don't like the sounds of that (chemical that has never been used before to control fleas?  Does this also mean never before used on a dog?  NOT on my dog, thank you)......also don't like that it attacks the nervous system of the flea.  What about the nervous system of a dog?  The dog jerking around sounds to me like the stuff had affected the dog's nervous system.  I can't even imagine what that poor pet parent must have gone through.

This is downright scary.  Won't be using that anytime soon.  What next?  Nevermind, I'd rather not know. Angry

That is what I was wondering too.  Isn't this stuff new on the market?  I remember seeing a TV ad for it recently.  To be honest, I don't use any "normal" flea or tick products on any of my pets.  For me, I just like don't like the idea of putting something that is poison on them.  I have used the herbal repellents on Daisy and have never had problems with fleas or ticks.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 02:34:16 PM »

I do use Advantage, I have to with so many and the dogs going in and out.
But I wouldn't use Ivermectin on cats. I have seen some die with using that.
If you do put something on your pet and it starts to have a reaction, before you get him to a vet, wash him quickly with something like Dawn dishwashing deterg. It works to get the stuff out quickly.
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 03:02:36 PM »

In my opinion, killing fleas in a petri dish is WAAAY different from applying to a living being.......... Angry
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 03:39:30 PM »

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I thought seizures and neurological reactions were the usual adverse reactions to flea products rather than the exception.

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That was my understanding also. ALL flea and tick products carry a large risk of adverse reactions usually to the nervous system of the pet. I have heard the same problems from invermectin and advantage from some users. Don't know if any of it is safe to use.

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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 03:45:59 PM »

In the mid 80s, we found our second kitty.  I didn't know any better and put a h a r t z flea collar on the poor guy. I couldn't understand why he kept removing it himself.  He knew better than I did.  Now I know that he was having a reaction to it.  Thank goodness he taught me and I stopped putting flea collars on him and he recovered from that and went on to live many years.    Sad

I had to put one dose of flea drops on Cassi (kitten) when I brought her home since she was loaded with fleas.   Cry 
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 05:06:21 PM »

I just got another Email on the list about this stuff. i'll post it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 05:11:28 PM »


This is a new product designed to be a more effective product than?other flea/tick treatments that was just released this year. It is available thru a vet and not currently on-line. I got ProMeris this week for my 7??dogs (6 Huskies & 1 Golden-Airedale) , and the results were?debilitating for nearly all of them-including me. Since my incident this week, my?vet has pulled it from distribution and alerted the manufacturer, Fort?Dodge .

Here are my results: Within less than 2 hours after applying, 4 of? ?my dogs had vomited from 2-4 times, 3 were disoriented and stumbling, 1 was dragging his back leg, 1 was salivating. I had very similar symptoms??like?an allergic reaction-my lips were swollen, eyes very red, mucous??membranes such as eyes, nose, and mouth were stinging. I was very disoriented-dizzy equilibrium and not able to drive. To make this a short story-all 7?of my dogs were admitted to the hospital for veterinarian care, and 3 of them remained for care, IV fluids and observation for 24 hours. I was in the emergency room. I'm home now and so are the dogs. We're all feeling?much better. Vet bills were over $2,500 and Fort Dodge is paying for?these. Not only can the product cause this reaction, it has a highly noxious odor that permeated the house and is just starting to dissipate after 3?days.

Your dogs/cats might not have the same reaction, but given my?experience-I wanted to help you all become well-educated about the product.

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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2008, 07:04:17 PM »

I posted this on the other Promeris thread

Well apparently this has caught the attention of Snopes who has not made a determination about it yet.

I encourage everyone to check out http://www.snopes.com in the next few days to see if this is real or not.

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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2008, 10:01:04 PM »

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     You beat me to it!   Wink  I was just about to check Snopes when I saw your post.  I am always skeptical when receiving an e-mail regarding a product being bad or some other danger such as that.  We'll see what Snopes discovers about this - have a feeling that it is just another hoax.
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