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Author Topic: Petzlife Plaque and Tartar Remover (gel or spray) for cats and dogs  (Read 57694 times)
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« on: June 02, 2007, 07:07:25 PM »

In my frantic search for a product that would help me avoid having to bring my cats to the vet for teeth cleaning under anesthesia, I stumbled upon this "all-natural" product called "Petzlife Oral Care Gel"  (it comes in spray too).  I ordered a bottle of the gel and it arrived by post in two days.  I have been using it for a week: religiously applying the gel to my cats' teeth morning and night.  Already I see a significant reduction in tartar build-up and gumline redness (Can it be? Can it possibly be?  A product that actually works?)  Product says visible results in a "few weeks" depending upon the condition of the pet's teeth.  I may be wrong, but I think this is the best product for getting rid of plaque and tartar build-up I have yet used.  The main active ingredient is grapefruit extract.  It also has a number of antibacterial herbs all mixed in distilled water.  Those pet toothpastes I get from my vet are so useless!  For those interested to try this product, you can check it out on their website (www. petzlife.com).
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2007, 07:34:36 PM »

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The main active ingredient is grapefruit extract.

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Grapefruit extract is a very powerful antioxidant, antifungal, antimicrobial agent.

We used to buy it in small bottles about an ounce for $10, got it from our herbalist. It was produced by a company Bio-Chem research called but after our herbalist passed away we couldn't find it anymore. Called the company and the only way I could get it was by the 50 gal drum. It is used to sterilize cows for milking and other types of animal things.

Glad to see it is available again in a more usable size.

Oh, I think it is grapefruit seed extract. The one we have, still have some here, is concentrated. Wife cleans all the fruit and vegetables with it, it will also remove grease etc.

Cool stuff, hope I can find it again one day, in smaller containers.

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2007, 11:55:32 PM »

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You're rught: it is grapefriut SEED extract.  I did not know that it is an antioxidant and antifungal as well as antimicrobial.  But I have read that some people put a few drops or sprinklings of grapefruit seed extract on raw food before serving it to their pets (those who are still leery about salmonela and e.coli).  Supposed to be toxic when ingested at large doses but PetzLife product info assures that they use a very low and safe dosage in the gels and sprays. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2007, 04:12:45 AM »

It seems like this Petzlife has a whole lot of other ingredients in it that may or may not be necessary or safe. Not trying to bash, but their website (poorly designed, full of misspellings, dismissive of legitimate questions, lack of independent safety verification) doesn't exactly fill me with confidence in their product.

I wonder: if the main active ingredient of this is grapefruit seed extract, whether it would be better to just get some of that, dilute it to a safe concentration and use that to clean their teeth.

(Disclaimer: I know nothing about the safety of grapefruit seed extract or any of the other Petzlife ingredients. I am not a vet or animal health professional. Just speaking from my own feelings of caution.)

kaffe: I feel the same way about dental cleanings under anesthesia. I did it with KD once, when it was absolutely necessary to the point that she needed some extractions. But even though I recognize the importance of dental health, I sometimes get the feeling that vets push this procedure as an easy cash grab, without enough regard to the dangers of anesthesia especially in older pets.

In any case, I'll be following this thread and others like it. Natural dental care alternatives are of real interest to me. I used to use one of the vet-recommended solutions that dissolve in the drinking water - until I read the list of preservatives and chucked the bottle in the trash.
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2007, 05:29:00 AM »

Just as with people - some individual animals are more prone to dental problems, some less so.  Trends also exist along breed lines.  For example, Toy (dog) breeds are NOTORIOUS for having bad teeth!

Raw feeders often cite sparkling white teeth as a "fringe benefit" to the BARF (Bones And Raw Food) diet and generally attribute it to the chewing on the bone.  And I know enough raw feeders who have reported this that I believe it.

But I also have to report that since starting to homecook for my Toy breed dog (who has had to have yearly teeth cleanings all his life even when I brush them daily and use an oral rinse) his teeth have shown virtually NO buildup.  On kibble, the brown gunky stuff around his gumline would begin to build up almost IMMEDIATELY and I never really felt I could get ahead of it.  But he is now a month out from a dental (I was already homecooking at the time) and his teeth look almost as good as they did when he left the vet's office!

I really gotta wonder if whatever it is they use to "bind" the kibble doesn't also get all gummed up in the animal's mouth . . . . . . . . .
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2007, 09:24:02 AM »

Just as with people - some individual animals are more prone to dental problems, some less so.  Trends also exist along breed lines.  For example, Toy (dog) breeds are NOTORIOUS for having bad teeth!

Raw feeders often cite sparkling white teeth as a "fringe benefit" to the BARF (Bones And Raw Food) diet and generally attribute it to the chewing on the bone.  And I know enough raw feeders who have reported this that I believe it.

I am interested in the raw factor and teeth and comments from those who feed raw.  I just don't think I could ever feed Raw.  Just the thought of it grosses me out, but then I, myself, have never been a big meat eater.  Fascinating stuff.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2007, 10:07:34 AM »

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I did not know that it is an antioxidant and antifungal as well as antimicrobial.

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Yeah this stuff can do most anything. Again the product that we have is called citricidal from Bio-chem in CA. It isn't easy to find and I think you have to be a registered herbalist to buy it in small quantities.

It can be used, in a diluted sense, to clean ears, for sore throat, eye wash, cleaning vegetables and fruits. It is very acidic and must be diluted. It is never to be used straight and most probably would be toxic straight.

We still have a few small bottles here and still use it. I don't know if it would whiten teeth by itself, maybe the other ingredients do that. It does kill the bacteria on the teeth and I would think that would be one of the steps in cleaning. Like I mentioned wife even cleans the range with it, diluted, it cuts grease, very acidic but not harmful to the skin.

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2007, 10:30:37 AM »

I was looking through the site and somewhere it said "human grade".  I can't find it now. I also searched a couple of the state listings for where it can be purchased, and there were dentists listed for people!!!  I may order some and try it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2007, 10:46:33 AM »

for those interested the link is

http://www.biochemresearch.com/citricidal.htm

however you notice from the site that the smallest is a 5 gal bucket. When I called them I was told to check into herbalists, etc for the small 1 oz bottle.

It isn't real toxic even straight (ld50 5000gm/kg, table salt is ld50 3000mg/kg) but if you know anything about chemistry the PH is like really low (2.0-3.0) indicating a very acidic compound.

good stuff, hard to find in the small container.

good luck

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2007, 11:14:51 AM »

Anyone else read anything regarding the more healthy food you feed your pet their teeth will remain white as can be. My dog is 2 1/2 yrs old and not a spot of tartar or yellow on her teeth. She eats organic (Karma 95%) dry and Evangers canned. Just had someone at the pet supplies plus remark how white her teeth were while we were buying more food. So something is keeping them white. Plus I buy knuckle bones from pet supplies plus cause they have a freezer of organic ones in it.
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2007, 11:52:01 AM »

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more healthy food you feed your pet their teeth will remain white

Yep heard that quite often. Lots of those that feed raw say the same, the raw bones will clean teeth too.

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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2007, 06:29:31 PM »

It's an established fact in human beings that genetic factors play into how rapidly tartar builds up on the teeth (different salivary chemistries, pH, etc. that create either more or less friendly "environments" for the buildup as well as the gingivitis that follows).  And since it's known to be prevalent in certain breeds/Groups, the genetic factor is at play as well there, too.

My dog got very good kibble most of his life - still had the buildup.

Now - on a COOKED (not raw - I can't quite deal with that either) diet from BalanceIT website, his teeth are staying clean.  (BTW, the meat and the sweet potatoes are cooked, the rest of the veggies are raw/pulverized).
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2007, 04:37:56 AM »

It has been 10 days since I have been using PetzLife Oral Gel.  I have two cats.  My 9 yr old is GENETICALLY predisposed to developing tartar problems.  He's had dental cleaning and 4 extractions in the Spirng of last year and it seemed to me that he may have to go for another dental again soon.  But anesthesia terrifies me.  So I will wait another month and give PetzLife a chance to work well.  I already see some reduction in the tartar build-up. So... I am HOPING this product will work for him.

With my 1 yr old cat, the story is a LOT more encouraging.  I have been brushing his teeth every night with this PetzLife.  Before I began 10 days ago, Cato had a pencil line of plaque/tartar riding close to the gumline on all his premolars and molars.  His gums were red too where they meet the teeth.  Well today, I looked into his mouth and teeth real closely.  SURPRISE!  The pencil line of plaque/tartar is 90% gone!  His gums are also no longer very red along the edges.  Cheesy

Oh please, please, if only this gel will work the same "miracle" on my 9 yr old's teeth!  he is the one who needs it most! Undecided

I promise though that if it doesn't, I'll take him to his vet for the dreaded teeth cleaning under anesthesia.  I will just DIE from worry, I know.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2007, 11:22:33 AM »

I tried this product for maybe a month in the hopes of not having to submit my chihuahua to his first dental cleaning (2 1/2 years old). At the same time I brushed his teeth with toothpaste a couple of days a week. He hated both procedures and somewhat fought me. There was a little bit of a difference but not enough and I was worried that I was doing the wrong thing and he would be sick (he had bad breath) . Anyway, I was told that his liver enzymes were very high and I should stop all holistic treatments I was giving him. Whether it was this product or dog food or some other issue, I can not say. I am afraid to continue with this product.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2007, 11:48:39 AM »

Has any one tried any of the CET dental rinses?  Or how about any of the additives to their drinking water?
Not holistic or anything, but my vet tech was pushing it.

http://www.cetdental.com/rinsing_products.asp
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