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petslave
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« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2008, 01:31:16 PM »

Well, sharky, here's a little bit of vindication you can throw in all our anti-Nutro faces (not that it will change any of our minds but might make you feel better):

The Whole Dog Journal lists Nutro as one of their top dry foods of the year this year!!!  I think it's actually just the Ultra line but still......

One new criteria they added this year was to NOT list any foods of companies that refused to reveal their manufacturer, which threw out several fairly good brands like Addiciton, Timberwolf Organics, and a few others.

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« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2008, 01:35:36 PM »

Well, sharky, here's a little bit of vindication you can throw in all our anti-Nutro faces (not that it will change any of our minds but might make you feel better):

The Whole Dog Journal lists Nutro as one of their top dry foods of the year this year!!!  I think it's actually just the Ultra line but still......

One new criteria they added this year was to NOT list any foods of companies that refused to reveal their manufacturer, which threw out several fairly good brands like Addiciton, Timberwolf Organics, and a few others.


lol.. it has been on there for a couple yrs.. I will not post my opnion of the journal;0

 OFF topic .. WHY would they NOT tell  Shocked Shocked...
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JanC
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« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2008, 02:34:19 PM »

petslave:

When did you get your WDJ?  I'm still waiting for mine.

I'm a little surprised that this was one of their top choices. Huh

Thankfully, the only Nutro I ever fed Hannah was Ultra.  She had some issues with it so she wasn't on it for a long time. Tongue
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« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2008, 07:18:08 PM »

JanC - I got it last week.  It looks like they are in Fla, and I'm about as far away from that as I can get, so everyone else should have gotten their copy before me!  Did you know you can read it online too if you're a subcriber?  Go to their website & see if you can figure out how to log in, I can't remember what you need for that.

That list has been criticized in past years for having some brands on there that the hard core pet food snobs consider poor picks.  At the same time the publication is known for it's great coverage on all other topics--raw & homecooked foods, alternative health therapies, training issues, etc.  Kind of strange that they choose some of the foods that they do.

They said in that issue that pet food companies giving out mfr info was unheard of until recently--ALL of them would say when asked that it was proprietary info & couldn't be revealed.  That surprised me.  I thought that line came about because of the recalls last year, but it's actually the opposite.  Now some are being open about it & revealing that info to gain/regain people's trust.
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« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2008, 05:27:27 AM »

Went thruy the recent issue of the above.  They are a fraud, they are giving blessings to foods that will tell where they are manufactured.  Remember Fromm, manufacturing in China, well, oddly enough all of a sudden they are back in the family business in Wisconsin.  My, what a change of fast events,

Also, Newman, Evo, Solid Gold, Blue Buffalo and a few others will not disclose where they are manufactured, oh, and ARtemis, so they are not on the approved list.

Nutro said, manufactured in CAlif,Tenn and and?Huh?   WE know Doane bought them out .

That Whole Dog Journal is a fraud.

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« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2008, 05:28:22 AM »

Nutro was bought out by Masterfoods, who purchsed Doane's, who manufactured for Walmart's and other brands.

My dogs puke bile when on Nutro, it is mostly rice
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« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2008, 09:55:20 AM »

I read the list as well and the only thing I really didn't like about the list is they didn't do any testing just took information from manufacturers and made a list against their requirements. I don't put much faith in it.
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« Reply #67 on: January 27, 2008, 10:42:58 AM »

rj:

I agree.  I looked at the list & I'm not very impressed with their picks.  It seems to me that they just took what these companies said at their word which makes me laugh.  Like they are going to be honest?  Huh!  I always had faith in what the WDJ had to say but this year is the exception. Tongue

ancona:

I noticed that about Fromm.......thanks for the reminder.  I had some samples here & wouldn't open them because I knew there was something I had heard that I didn't like & as soon as I saw your post, I remembered.  I did hear that they make their food in China.  So, like I said above, these companies really could say anything they wanted to say which doesn't make me feel all warm & fuzzy about that list. Angry
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« Reply #68 on: January 27, 2008, 11:08:46 AM »

I am guessing they only asked about dry food ... YES Nutro dry is made in California or Tennessee at either plant ....

 Shocked Shocked Shocked My mind that a company wouldnt give state or country of plant Shocked Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #69 on: January 27, 2008, 08:41:24 PM »

I may be wrong, but I thought it was just the canned Fromm's that was made in China. 

It is kind of odd that the WDJ article before the list goes on about how we shouldn't reject all foods from a mfr that had recalls because of differences in ingredient sourcing & cleaning between different lots.  Then they refuse to post some better companies that won't reveal their mfrs. 

Did all the Nutro problems start after the buy-out by Masterfoods, or did the problems start during the recall & are still ongoing?

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kaffe
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« Reply #70 on: January 27, 2008, 11:00:44 PM »

Well, there is at least ONE petfood manufacturer that is complaining about WDJ's judging process.  So far, I have found Solid Gold and they have an "official" explanation why they were not included in the WDJ list.  Although it is angled as a "miscommunication" with the powers that be at WDJ, I read between the lines that it is really a complaint:

http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/news/

Can it be?  the list is "rigged"?  Ay-yay-yay

and the WDJ has so many otherwise sooooo helpful and informative articles for pet parents!
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sharky
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« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2008, 11:39:56 PM »

 Wink rigged ...lol.. never.... I do agree many of the articles are great and helpful
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Offy
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« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2008, 03:22:27 AM »

Solid Gold also doesn't show testing for cyanuric acid. There was both in the recall issues. Maybe that contributed to them not making the list?
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Laurie
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« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2008, 04:31:28 AM »

I may be wrong, but I thought it was just the canned Fromm's that was made in China


Petslave you are correct. Only the canned is made in China. Per the Pet Food List, their dry food is made at their own plant in Wisconsin. Nutro is one of the very few companies that has no info listed there as to where their products are made.
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JanC
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« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2008, 06:04:21 AM »

Thanks for info on Fromms......however, I noticed on their label they have the synthetic vit k that we are all trying to avoid.  I guess that's why I decided not to feed the samples to my dog.  I'm sure you're right about the China connection & canned food.

I'm really disappointed in WDJ.  Always went by their list in previous years but this year I'm not even sure what their criteria is.  Sure hope it isn't based on what the companies had to say......that's pretty funny.  I honestly wasn't impressed with their list AT ALL.

I use Solid Gold Dragon Teeth cookies (for fresh breath.....imagine a dog with fresh breath......NOT) but am a bit nervous as I do believe dry & cookies come from Diamond. 

I just might send off a note to WDJ to ask WTF is with them this year.  I also read that whole write-up about not passing on a food because of where it's made but I have to say that I disagree.  I think it has a lot to do with the quality of the food......but that's my opinion & you know what they say about that....... Grin
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