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« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2008, 08:14:03 AM » |
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Been meaning to ask: has anyone had experience using homeopathic nosodes in place of vaccines?
I have been looking into it but have not tried it yet. I'll have to talk to Doc about it. I'll post what I find out. |
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« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2008, 10:00:23 AM » |
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that article said EXACTLY what my vet said |
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Sandi K
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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2008, 10:40:07 PM » |
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Our Sophers is coming up on her one year appt soon and I am in a quandry about what to do with vaccinations. Keep in mind that Sophers has juvenile gingivitis and her immune system has been compromised from being so sickly when she was a kitten. I think Im going to have a hard time with not getting the rabies for her as it is law here but do you think is possible she can do without the feline leuk and distemper. She is total indoor only and Im thinking I can convince them those 2 arent needed like in other words tell them no.....I would love to know people's thoughts on this......I really dont even want to do rabies with her immune system issues.  |
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« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2008, 10:51:47 PM » |
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I think you can definitely skip FeLV. For distemper, if you have any concerns, you can ask for tither first and then decide if it is necessary. For any legally required vaccinations like rabies, I guess it is best to do according to recommendations, if possible in your state to do a three-year one that seems a better option. Here is a very conservative guideline on vaccinations, which might be useful in explaining saying no to FeeLV at least: http://www.vas-awareness.org/vaxreccs.htmI normally do the kitten shots and no boosters afterwards, my cats are indoors only. Forgot to add: here there is no rabies vaccine requirement for cats, regs are for dogs only. My vet is fine with not doing booster shots, he agrees that the risk is extremely low. |
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« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2008, 11:10:34 PM » |
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Sandi- If she is indoor only & not frequently boarded or otherwise exposed,I would do only what is required by law [rabies]. And if your vet will write a medical excuse you might be able to skip that 1 & do a titer instead.
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« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2008, 11:13:11 PM » |
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Thank you all, I appreciate any info. Sophers had her first set of shots in June 07 and then boosters in July 07, she was born in April 07. One of the things that has me scared is that on the way home from the first set of shots the lady who had her said she urped in the car. We dont know if it was because she was already sick with coccidia at the time or if it was a reaction to one of the vaccines and if so which one would it be or if it was a combo of both or if it was just stress related...Its been so long since I had to worry about vaccines as KiKi wasnt getting any in her last years but she was much older....been a long time since Ive dealt with a new one and the decisions to make...
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« Reply #53 on: June 15, 2008, 12:16:18 PM » |
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Sandi K what about titre tests? I know you can have them done for a dog. That is what I'm going to do. If the anti-bodies are active in their system then they are protected without a further shot.
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« Reply #54 on: June 15, 2008, 12:22:50 PM » |
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Yes I agree about the Titre tests, I also asked my vet about it and she said they can be done at most once a year... she told me even longer than that... I asked them about the vaccines and the rabies and she told me that they will not vaccinate if I don't want them to... not even the rabies, although they told me it is required by law once every 3 years. But even that one they told me that they will not give unless I want them to... so I was relieved about that.
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« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2008, 05:20:38 AM » |
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I'll have to look into this further but does anyone know how they are coming along with the veterinarians having to notify the state if the rabies vaccine is not given. I think they have been trying to get this in effect here in California. I have been out of sorts lately and have not kept up on it. I'll see what I can find out. I know all vaccines except rabies are optional. Some states allow a vet report if its not in the best interest of the animal to get rabies vaccine. With dogs it gets tricky because if you dog bites someone or has a mishap and you can't prove the vaccine has been given there can be dire consequences for the dog.
Just food for thought. If your animal scratches or bites a person or animal and you do not have rabies vaccine proof or if the vaccine is not current the animal can be impounded. If the animal is loose and they can't find the owner they usually euthanize after a few days of trying to get records and test if rabies is suspected. It would be wise to look up these state laws. There is always a quarantine without proof and sometimes with proof. The time frames vary. If you have rabies vaccine proof the quarantine can be as little as 10 days at home. Without proof it can be as long as 6 months in a pen or cage with absolutely no animal or human contact what-so-ever. Same applies if your animal is scratched or bitten by a possible rabid animal. To me that is way more cruel than a shot every 3 years. Also as veterinary health care professionals we have to keep the animal and verify vaccination records and also notify the state of any incidences.
Its a very hard place we are put in with the states laws. I would think the states need to do some updating based on current information but until then I guess we have to make the choice based on our individual circumstances.
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« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2008, 01:47:43 PM » |
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In my state only dogs are required to have rabies shots/////
In MOST jurisdictions a vet can write a note if a rabies vaccine or other shot is not given.. I have this with three of my four have chronic illness or KNOWN adverse shot reactions... thus I will NOT be giving any of them shots... the quarentine laws VARY widely ... one state a cat bit it OWNER and was quarantined for 10 days at a state facility ... dog bite a neighbor in my area dog had to stay at in home quarantine ... In both cases shot records were unavailable
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« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2008, 09:37:04 PM » |
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Most states require only dog rabies because they consider cats free spirits and there are no leash laws for cats either. Those laws are also why cat owners don't have much protection legally if a dog attacks a cat or kills a cat. At least thats the way it is here. If I had a cat I would prefer to be able to have some legal recourse but the way it stands they are not required anything (rabies vaccine, leash, tags) so they are not considered companion animals as the dog is. That's not my opinion its just what the law is here. Laws are very light about cats but mainly because there is no laws that owners have to abide.
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« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2008, 10:33:47 PM » |
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Here in Maryland, cats are required to have rabies shots every year and get a license and tags every year. No leash laws, though.
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« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2008, 10:51:31 PM » |
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Are not the majority of dogs chipped now? Before putting any animal down there should be a scan done for that chip or else why put the chip in in the first place? If you have an uncontrollable dog or are not very good at training your dog you should keep it muzzled when out in public. Cats can get feline aids and other things running free outside so does not matter if they are attacked by a dog - a lethal disease can take their life also. And not to put cats down but they do attack birds as is their nature just like dogs will attack a bird.
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