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« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2008, 09:12:00 AM »

Petslave,

Overland Park, Kansas.  Yes, you had to show the invoice from your vet.

LOL, if you look up "over developed", or "urban sprall" you may find a picture of Overland Park.

In OP, the bureaucrat's definition of "green space" is "the landscaped area that divides multi-lane highways".  And the city's master plan is only valid until the next group of land developers biz jets into town.

Hummmm, sounds like I have a bad attitude.  That's because I do Grin.  Spent many years (with the help of others) fighting city hall.

There are some livable areas in Kansas, but you have to move to the small towns.

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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2008, 09:18:44 AM »

Sounds like a nightmare, too bad you wasted so much life energy trying affect some sort of change there.  I live near a city that has so much going for it in regards to environmentally aware, progressive attitudes & programs, but then you look closer at the details & there are some real money hungry guys at the top that ignore what most of the residents want. 
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2008, 01:07:15 AM »

Welcome palbuddy and I read your post with much interest as I feel exactly the same with the vaccines being the cause of cancers in my dogs and to add insult to injury the cwap that is in the pet food too. Like a double whammy - vaccinate and then continue the poisoning with the cwap in the food unless you home cook and who knows how long that food will be safe too.

No  more vaccinations in this house. Just titre tests and that will do us just fine.
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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2008, 09:05:43 AM »

...No  more vaccinations in this house...
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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2008, 07:44:47 PM »

ANDYcat appreciated your celebration of no more - just say NO!! lol  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Wink
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« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2008, 07:16:11 AM »

Here is a news article I saw just today regarding a possible reaction to rabies vaccine in a standard poodle:

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/16410586/detail.html

BOSTON -- A local woman is raising questions about the safety of the rabies vaccine after her dog died following a routine shot.

A Dracut, Mass., woman is calling for changes to state vaccination laws after her pet died just hours after having the shot..."When I brought him home, he wasn't even home 40 minutes and he died. So, it wasn't even 12 hours," Camilli said. She said she believes the shot, which is designed to protect the public, could be deadly to dogs.

"I know it's the rabies shot that did it," she said.



The response of the vets in this article regarding titers makes me a bit angry.
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« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2008, 10:20:56 AM »

Catbird I was just going to post this it was on my local news this morning.  I don't understand that vet at all I thought a titer was acceptable for rabies.  I had spoken to my vet about this the last time I saw her.

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« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2008, 10:41:11 AM »

Only my six month old will get another poke... per my vet kitten set and the booster then no need to again
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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2008, 08:21:43 PM »

I am planning to leave Hawaii to California.  I find that it is REQUIRED that to leave the state, my cats and dogs must have a rabies vaccination and be microchipped.  This, in addition to a mandatory health certificate costs $120 per animal. 

Why must I be required to give my strictly indoor pets a vaccine when they are going from one household, directly to another household?  I am so frustrated. 
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« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2008, 09:11:40 PM »

I'm hoping they do a necropsy to determine the cause of death. That is very sad and if it truly was the rabies vaccine then that would lend proof and maybe help her cause.
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« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2008, 11:50:35 PM »

Could that shot the poor dog received have been loaded with too much Mercury/thimerosol as what was supposedly removed from kids vaccines?Huh
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« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2008, 11:54:46 AM »

This is what I found on RabAvert. I don't see any mercury and such. I might have missed it but I didn't see anything.
From this website:
http://www.merckfrosst.ca/mfcl/en/corporate/products/rabavert.html



Table 1 - Product information
Route of Dosage Form/ Clinically Relevant Nonmedicinal
Administration Strength Ingredients (per 1 mL)
Intramuscular (IM) Freeze-dried vaccine Polygeline < 12 mg;
injection for reconstitution with Human serum albumin < 0.3 mg;
a diluent / ? 2.5 IUs of Neomycin < 1 ?g;
rabies antigen per 1 mL Chlortetracycline < 20 ng;
Amphotericin B < 2 ng;
Ovalbumin < 3 ng
DESCRIPTION
RabAvert® (Rabies Vaccine) produced by Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics GmbH & Co. KG is a sterile
freeze-dried vaccine obtained by growing the fixed-virus strain Flury LEP in primary cultures of chicken
fibroblasts. The strain Flury LEP was obtained from American Type Culture Collection as the 59th egg
passage. The growth medium for propagation of the virus is a synthetic cell culture medium with the addition
of human albumin, polygeline (processed bovine gelatin) and antibiotics.
The virus is inactivated with ß-propiolactone, and further processed by zonal centrifugation in a sucrose
density-gradient. The vaccine is lyophilized after addition of a stabilizer solution which consists of buffered
polygeline and potassium glutamate.
One dose of reconstituted vaccine contains less than 12 mg polygeline (processed bovine gelatin), less
than 0.3 mg human serum albumin, 1 mg potassium glutamate and 0.3 mg sodium EDTA. Small quantities
of bovine serum are used in the cell culture process. Bovine components originate only from source countries
known to be free of bovine spongiform encephalopathy. Minimal amounts of chicken protein may be present
in the final product; ovalbumin content is less than 3 ng/dose (1 mL), based on ELISA. In the final vaccine,
neomycin is present at < 1 ?g, chlortetracycline at < 20 ng, and amphotericin B at < 2 ng per dose.
RabAvert® is intended for intramuscular (IM) injection. The vaccine contains no preservative and should be
used immediately after reconstitution with the supplied Sterile Diluent for RabAvert® (Water for Injection).
The potency of the final product is determined by the US National Institute of Health (NIH) mouse potency
test using the US reference standard. The potency of one dose (1.0 mL) RabAvert® is at least 2.5 IU of
rabies antigen.
RabAvert® is a white, freeze-dried vaccine for reconstitution with the water for injection diluent prior to use;
the reconstituted vaccine is a clear to slightly opaque, colorless solution.
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« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2008, 11:31:08 PM »

Thx for the info. Do you know if this company makes all the animal vaccines for rabies or are there several and do they follow the same ingredient list/type?
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« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2008, 02:18:44 AM »

I am planning to leave Hawaii to California.  I find that it is REQUIRED that to leave the state, my cats and dogs must have a rabies vaccination and be microchipped.  This, in addition to a mandatory health certificate costs $120 per animal. 

Why must I be required to give my strictly indoor pets a vaccine when they are going from one household, directly to another household?  I am so frustrated. 

 Sad  Yes - I don't understand why vaccination  etc is required for your cats if you are flying FROM Hawaii to California...  If it was the other way around (CA to Hawaii) ... well, yes I understand becuase Hawaii is a rabies-free place... perhaps you should call the animal husbandry/state agriculture dept of California and find out?  Or is it the airlines that gave you this info?  I flew with Kaffe from Manila to California --- I did have to get all his shots up to date (first and last actually), and then when we arrived in LA, no one even asked me for his vet "passport" - and I had quite a few documents and clearances and export permits that "they" asked me to gt while I was in Manila ... same thing happened when we flew from SF to Sydney and back... no one checks pet passports!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2008, 02:21:16 AM »

Been meaning to ask:  has anyone had experience using homeopathic nosodes in place of vaccines? 
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