RoseyGirl
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« on: April 28, 2008, 09:53:17 PM » |
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One of my kitties died of cancer several years ago. During his long battle, he had one of his back egs amputated. Makes me cry to think about it so I'll keep this short. His cancer was linked to the "routine" yearly vaccines he had been given over time just above his tail.
I'm grateful that the vet we have now is extremely conservative when it comes to shots.
Please be careful.
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« Last Edit: May 10, 2008, 06:59:57 PM by RoseyGirl »
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"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened" (by Anatole France)
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kaffe
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 10:04:19 PM » |
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Oh no... I'm so sorry over what happened to your poor kitty... yes, more and more peopleare realizing that yearly vaccines give rise to greater problems than what they were designed to prevent. Myself, I have so far resisted attempts by vets to persuade me to e-vaccinate my cats.
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"A righteous man respects the life of his animal, but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel." (Prov. 12: 10)
"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it" (Old Chinese Proverb)
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Poco
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2008, 10:10:28 PM » |
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I'm very sorry to hear about your kitty, too. I understand why it still hurts. I'm conservative, too, about vaccines. Thanks for sharing this.
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catwoods
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2008, 11:40:03 PM » |
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I'm sorry about your kitty, RoseyGirl. I try to be careful about the shots, too.
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Arabiannikki
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2008, 12:48:34 AM » |
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Sorry to hear about your Kitty. I run titer test yearly and so far no vaccines have been needed. I'll only vaccinate when needed and by then I hope to have more positive information about nosodes. Hopefully by then there will be safer vaccines.
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mgt
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 10:32:57 AM » |
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I am also sorry about your little Kitty... before, I used to vaccinate my baby because I "thought" I was doing what was best... being responsible so that he didn't get sick... little did I know that the poison was harming him more... I have wondered also if vaccines had anything to do with my baby getting cancer too... I wonder about many things... My mother in law had a mini pincher doggie a few years back... she was about 9 years old or so, hadn't had any vaccinations in years, probably since she was a puppy, they relocated but before they did they took her to the vet to get a full exam. There at the vet they vaccinated her. About two weeks later (now at their new location) she started to get very very sick. Turns out she got Immune Mediated Hemolytic Anemia... I ALWAYS believed it was due to the vaccines, she was always a very healthy little dog... She passed away not long after that.
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3catkidneyfailure
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2008, 10:41:02 AM » |
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Rosey, I'm so sorry to hear what happened.
My vet told me many years ago after the age of 7 for my cats that the 3 year rabies was
the only vaccine recommended. My cats are indoor, with only a courtyard area as their
outside, and no other contact with outdoor furkids. Have other people been told this by
their vets?
It makes one worry when they have go to the vet about exposure.
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kaffe
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2008, 11:05:00 AM » |
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My vet always accomodates the life-style and environment of the particular pet. If the cat is an indoor-only cat with no "nose-to-nose" contact with other animals, the 3-yr rabies vaccine is the only vaccine he "recommends" (since it is the law) - even then, he doesn't push it.
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"A righteous man respects the life of his animal, but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel." (Prov. 12: 10)
"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it" (Old Chinese Proverb)
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catbird
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2008, 11:53:30 AM » |
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My vet told me many years ago after the age of 7 for my cats that the 3 year rabies was
the only vaccine recommended. My cats are indoor, with only a courtyard area as their
outside, and no other contact with outdoor furkids. Have other people been told this by
their vets?
My vet (cat specialist) has said pretty much the same thing after a cat turns about 10; I like it that she does not push vaccinations for senior cats. She feels that they are probably permanently immune by that time. Regarding rabies, she will tell you what the law is; however, in the case of cats with medical conditions (like I have two that have heart problems and one who has a past history of vaccine reaction), she will write a medical exemption from rabies vacs if requested, providing your cat is at low risk of rabies exposure (indoor cat, you don't live in an old house with bats, etc.), and that there is documentation of previous vaccination. If these cats, who for medical reasons would be put at risk complying with the law, were to bite someone, she would do a titer to prove that they were immune to rabies. She has recommended, however, that when introducing a new cat, either titers be checked first or vaccination updates be done on the resident cats. The rabies vaccination laws in many states are many years behind current scientific knowledge of how long animals stay immune. For the sake of the pets, I hope the laws will be changed. A major study of this is going on at the University of Wisconsin Vet School now. Rosey, I am so sorry to hear about what happened to your cat. This is one of my worst nightmares. |
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"When Mother Nature saw fit to remove the tail of the Manx, she left, in place of the tail, more cat." --Mary Stewart
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ANDYcat
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2008, 12:33:39 PM » |
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This article should be required reading for all cat parents....... DON'T EXPECT AN EASY READ here....read it through carefully, though, and and consider it carefully. I thought I was "up-to-speed" by having decided to adopt the latest AAFP guidelines for my five....now, I'm not sure they'll ever see a vaccine needle again (with no rabies needed here). Someone here mentioned the one-time=3 year shot? Maybe a read of this will make a difference.
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Nabiya
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2008, 01:18:28 PM » |
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Currently the only studies underway for feline vaccines are being administered through the Vaccine-Associated Feline Sarcoma Task Force. Their one and only report to date is published in JAVMA, dated 6/2005. It's a long report but worth reading. An excerpt: DR. MACY: In 1985, we made a big change in the way cats are vaccinated in this country. We went from the use of a modified-live rabies virus vaccine to an adjuvanted killed virus vaccine. In the same year, an aluminum adjuvanted FeLV vaccine was introduced. Both of those events correspond temporally to the emergence of vaccine-associated sarcomas in the late 1980s. Entire article: http://tinyurl.com/2782qh What is not readily apparent are the "sponsors" of the task force, further digging needed to be done to find them. Just the top two, there are many others: Pfizer Animal Health $250,000 Fort Dodge Animal Health $100,000 After you read the article, you'll see that there are many different opinions of the doctors involved in the studies and research. Interestingly enough, the report admits that the manufacturers of the vaccines are in clinical trials with new feline vaccines that are not aluminum based (aluminum has been found in the tissues of the deceased animals). So after I read and researched this all a while ago, I came away with the conclusion that a definitive answer may not be found UNTIL SUCH TIME as the manufacturers are ready to release another type of vaccine. Coincidence? |
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Poco
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2008, 02:08:56 PM » |
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"Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear." ----General Douglas MacArthur
"American GIs are not toy soldiers to be moved around on some global game board." ----General Colin Powell
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JustMe
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2008, 02:16:43 PM » |
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I envy those of you who live in states where you can get an exemption. My state will only give an exemption for animals who have compromised immune systems. They don't care about titers.  So, we're stuck with the feline rabies vaccines. Sheesh. What does a strictly indoor cat need vaccines for, other than to make money for the companies. |
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ANDYcat
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2008, 02:28:30 PM » |
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...What does a strictly indoor cat need vaccines for, other than to make money for the companies. ....other than to make money for the companies... and the Veterinary community??? No, no, no, of course not...... |
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