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Author Topic: Recovery SA for pet arthritis, etc.  (Read 4363 times)
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« on: February 25, 2011, 12:17:27 PM »

Has anyone tried this product?  The testimonials sound great, of course.  I ordered some for Dutch because he's having more pain and less mobility with his back and hind legs.  I was just going to buy glucosamine, but this one seems to have some good reviews.

http://www.recoverysa.com/

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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 05:30:44 PM »

This is the 1st I've heard of it. It does sound interesting, but I'm concerned that I couldn't find details about what the grape ingredient is. Grapes are highly toxic for dogs & cats. I did email them, hopefully they will explain in more detail than I could find on their site.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 09:18:05 PM »

Ingredients in the Nutricol:

Epigallocatechin gallate - Possible carcinogenic potential

EGCG was, among other tea polyphenols, found to be a strong topoisomerase inhibitor, similar to some chemotherapeutic anticancer drugs ex. etoposide and doxorubicin. [17] [18] [19] [20][21] This property may be responsible for anticarcinogenic however also a carcinogenic potential of the substance. High intake of polyphenolic compounds during pregnancy is suspected to increase risk of neonatal leukemia. Bioflavonod supplements should not be used by pregnant women.[22][23][24] A strong association between high intake of tea during pregnancy and elevated risk of childhood malignant central nervous system (CNS) tumours was found

Proanthocyanidin - Proanthocyanidins have been sold as nutritional and therapeutic supplements in Europe since the 1980s. In contrast, the introduction of proanthocyanidins to the United States market has been relatively recent.
Proanthocyanidins represent a group of condensed flavan-3-ols, such as procyanidins, prodelphinidins and propelargonidins, that can be found in many plants, most notably apples, maritime pine bark, cinnamon, cocoa, grape seed, grape skin (procyanidins and prodelphinidins),[2] and red wines of Vitis vinifera (the common grape).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proanthocyanidins

Grapes are toxic to the kidneys of a dog so just thought this might help before you decide to give any to Dutch.

The Nutricol contains 75 mg. so don't know how concentrated or how much of that would actually be grapes or grape skins.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 07:47:06 PM »

I think the pdf in the vet section of that website said the grape ingredient is resveratrol.  I assumed it wasn't a problem since it sounds like a lot of people have used it with favorable results for dogs, and it's sold at vets' offices (not that THAT means much!).  This website has a little more info on using resveratrol for dogs:

http://www.natural-dog-health-remedies.com/resveratrol-benefits.html
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 09:32:46 PM »

petslave from that link:

Since many resveratrol supplements are made from grape extracts, and since grapes are poisonous to dogs, you may wonder if resveratrol is safe for dogs. I cannot find any research on the toxicity of resveratrol in dogs, and am not entirely sure whether it is safe if a resveratrol supplement made from grape extract is given to dogs on a regular basis.

However, the good news is, resveratrol can be obtained from plants other than grapes! And if you get a supplement that sources its resveratrol from a different plant that is safe for dogs, there should not be a problem.



If this supplement can be shown not to contain any grapes or grape skins then it should be ok according to the above. I would ask for that in writing from the company before giving it to Dutch that there are not grapes in any form in their product.

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