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MarySmith
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« on: December 30, 2007, 10:47:04 AM »

I was reading another forum and found that several young kitties under 2 years have been lost to FIP. I thought that there was a vaccine to protect against this deadly disease. Am I wrong?

I would be interested in hearing anything regarding FIP.

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No, I don't have any special kitty in mind with this post.
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2007, 11:35:21 AM »

Mary -
     Here is a link to one article about the FIP vaccine.  You can Google "FIP vaccine" for others.  Generally, it appears that it is not recommended as it appears that it is very risky and often results in the kitten actually developing the disease.

         http://www.traditionalcats.com/Education/Medical/NouseFIPVac.htm
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2008, 08:37:02 AM »

I lost a kitten to FIP about 10 years ago and the kitten we received from the breeder as a replacement kitten was given the FIP vaccine.  A few years ago my vet told me she recommended no longer giving the vaccine to my cat.  She said one of her patients ended up getting FIP and the only exposure she had was the vaccination. 

I think it's great that you want to learn more about FIP.  Unfortuantely most of us don't learn about FIP until we experience it in our own cat.

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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2008, 09:02:37 AM »

There is an FIP list on groups that is very good.
and the only true way to find out if your cat has it, is after He's gone and they do a test on the body. the other tests aren't proof that a cat has it, just that one has been exposed. And the shots I got were a dead virus so they didn't get any FIP. But most catteries will have a titer on FIP, which is a corona virus. Not full blown FIP. too many cats are put down when they don't have to be.
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2008, 09:26:54 AM »

I lost an 11 year old cat to the wet form of FIP.  It was truly a nightmare, especially because I had 6 other cats in the house at the same time.  The vet was 99% sure of his diagnosis, she died exactly 1 week after he first saw her.  It took 8 days total to kill her.  Confrimed on necropsy.  One day she was eating, the next day she picked at her food, which was when I took her to the vet.  Her belly was grotesquely bloated, she was severely jaundiced, all in a span of 24 hours.  Raisin died in 1993. The intranasal vaccine was introduced in the late 1980's and it was and still is a modified live virus administered in a series of doses through the nose.

I was initially instructed to vaccinate my other 6 cats, who were only given one dose, when the vet decided to stop the series.  The FIP virus when shed outside the cat's body dies immediately, unlike feline leuk which can live for quite awhile.  I cleaned and scrubbed my entire house from top to bottom.  It's never been that clean since LOL.

Anyway, to give you an idea of how horrid this thing is, we know where and how Raisin contacted the virus.  She used to come outside with me for supervised ooutdoor play.  She met the neighbor's indoor/ mostly outdoor cat.  Ginger was a carrier, unbeknowst to me.  She and Raisin met and touched noses.  Eight days later Raisin was dead.  Ginger was the suspect and she was titered by her vet and the titer was sky high.  Ginger remained asymptomatic, and was still allowed to roam outdoors, idiot owner, until she died 5 years later from kidney failure.
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2008, 03:33:51 PM »

oh my... that quick!!! So sorry that you lost Raisin that way, Peg.  I have heard of "wet" FIP and "dry" FIP. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2008, 08:11:59 PM »

Does FIP cause a bloody diarrhea?
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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2008, 08:38:57 PM »

That was something that never happened with my Raisin, MarySmith.  Just a total loss of appetite.  Bloody diarrhea can come from 2 different reasons that I personally have had experience with.  I'm not a doc, so these are just from my situations.  If the blood is bright red, that is usually from straining to go.  Sometimes when cats are constipated and then they "blow", there can be diarrhea tinged with blood.

My IBD kitty sometimes has dark blood mixed in with his diarrhea, he has not had a normal stool since I got him 3 years ago.  His stool is much thicker than when I first got him; when it looked like tea in consistency.  Anyway, when his stool has dark blood in it or on it, it is usually accompanied by muccous and that tells me that the food he had was too rich and was not properly absorbed and also irritated his intestinal tract.  The dark blood comes from internal body parts, the lighter colored blood is from just inside the rectum.
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2008, 08:41:17 PM »

MarySmith, take a look inside your kitty's ears.  The inside should be white.  The whites of the eyes should be white.  The skin on the underside of the belly should be white.  All of the above locations were almost a golden yellow color in my Raisin.  Jaundice is usually the first thing that is seen and yet on Raisin's blood work, the liver enzymes were only at the high end of normal.
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2008, 08:45:35 PM »

Mary -
     Here is a link to a page with the symptoms of FIP.  Diarrhea is mentioned as one, but in this, and other sites I looked at, it does not mention that the diarrhea can be bloody.

        http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/fip/symptoms.shtml
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2008, 08:50:52 PM »

The bloody diarrhea question was with reference to the kitty I mentioned in Trudy's thread here:
http://itchmoforums.com/making-a-difference/poisoned-food-first-happened-t3120.0.html

This kitty had bloody diarrhea/stool plus a distended tummy.
I've searching for an answer as to why the kitty got sick ever since March and the recalls. I don't recall if he was Jaundiced and now no way to find this out.

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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2008, 12:35:43 PM »

I lost my dear sweet cat Lady to FIP on 12/30/07 and it still seems unreal to me. It took 3 weeks to kill her and she went from normal overnight to a pain in her stomach, recurring off and on fevers, high liver enzymes, no appetite. She was in my life for 14 years and I have no idea how she contracted the virus as she was an "only cat" for over 10 years and had no contact with other cats. I have beat myself up over how it may have happened since I've read it can be transmitted on clothing, etc. But she may have been exposed when she was young and did live around many other cats and for whatever reason the virus became active. This is one horrible, horrible virus.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2008, 12:54:42 PM »

So, so sorry to hear of the loss of your cat Lady.  How devastating.  It really is a horrible illness.  It does seem as though they can remain asymptomatic for years after contracting the virus.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2008, 01:04:36 PM »

I'm so sorry, kateyw, about the loss of your kitty. I did not know the FIP virus could remain dormant like that.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2008, 02:51:39 PM »

kateyw,

Welcome to ItchmoForum. I'm so sorry that you have just recently lost your Lady to FIP. Feel free to create a memorial to her in Memorials and Support:

http://itchmoforums.com/memorials-and-support-b58.0/

 
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