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Author Topic: Candid Conversations with MY VET about Pet Food: Add Yours!  (Read 4495 times)
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« on: September 21, 2007, 04:48:35 PM »

I'm in kind of a hurry here, so I'll post quickly.  My vet is not a founding partner of the clinic I go to, so I imagine she has to watch what she says.

DOGS:

My vet knows I'm homecooking food and treats for my dogs, exclusively now for the last 4-5 weeks.  Knowing I am adamant about homecooking FOREVER, she is supporting me and wants to help. 

A couple of months ago, she was a little afraid of my cooking for the dogs, fearing they wouldn't get the correct nutrients or amino acids.  I told her I wouldn't have to be able to do much better than to be as good as the PF companies that poisoned thousands and thousands of pets and spiked their foods with fake protein.  And I KNEW that I wasn't feeding them preservatives, questionable additives, and acetaminophen or even aminopterin (rat poison).  ...And that I was using REAL whole ingredients.  She agreed.  (I didn't say this in a smart alecky way -- just stated it objectively.)

She does not like raw at all and never will.

Last week, I asked why dog food companies put grains in their foods if dogs do not have the salivary enzyme, amylase, to digest the grains properly.  Why?  Why would PF companies put substances in food that did not help the dog reach optimum health and nutrition?  We spoke of fillers and being cheap/profit, and she nodded her head.

My dogs' bloodwork looks good.  Calcium is perfect, etc.  She's always complimenting my dogs' body condition (not too fat, not too thin -- perfect waists -- just trim athletic builds), their skin condition, their muscles, silky smooth fur, sparkling teeth, etc.

I mentioned all the grains in foods.  She responded that she wasn't sure how much nutrition is actually in pet food.  I then mentioned the pseudo-protein melamine spiking of the grains/glutens, the melamine-spiked tankage from Darling International (rendering company) and said -- with all the fake protein spiking with melamine or cyanuric acid going on, I don't think the pets have been getting much REAL protein or nutrition for a very long time, such as the protein/nutrition content of the "food" was to begin with.

She wants to have diets made up for my dogs at UC.  I have 2 pet diet books on order.
 

CAT:

I told her earlier I would NOT put my cat on Hill's DRY prescription food because I read research that the CRF/ARF cats do better with just wet, and she is fine with my just feeding wet.  I even returned a bag of Hill's Prescription (which I didn't trust ) when Hill's Science Diet had a recall.  She was a believer then, that only the wet food was affected, and I believe she thought I was too paranoid at the end of March when I returned the food and told her to mark my words that it will be revealed that ALL formats of food are affected.  (How's that for being an early "over-the-top" crackpot nut case?)  Now, she knows that it was wet, dry, semi-moist, treats, biscuits -- ALL OF THE GARBAGE and is now willing to be a little more candid about commercial PF.  She told me a lot of people are choosing homecooking.  Before, she said "some."

We also discussed the research concerning low protein for CRF/ARF cats, and she agreed that the low protein diet research was mixed and that it was more important to look at the phosphorus.  Hence, no mostly grain-filled food for my kitty.

Have to run.... sorry this rambles.

Interested in hearing about your frank discussions about commercial pet food and nutrition with YOUR vet.


 
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2007, 06:12:40 PM »

My current dog is an adoptee from a shelter. After I got her home made an appt. w/regular vet just to have her checked over in case the shelter didnt spot something. While exam was going on I had relayed to the vet I would be feeding an organic dog food only and she said that would be great. Upon being up front paying the bill one of the ladies working the desk asked what I would be feeding her.  I told her it would be organic food only. She then said to me "we'll never see you here again". What a great testament to organic food - telling me the dog would be so healthy she would not need any doctoring!
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2007, 08:13:12 PM »

Actually left a really nice, really caring vet after nine months because she would
not even discuss the possibility that commercial pet food was not the best
alternative. Wow, the lady was educated at Cornell Feline. Hope most of the
vets out there have come to a different conclusion or are at least more
open minded since March 16, 2007.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2007, 08:25:15 PM »

My dog is a survivor of the pet food poisoning.  Her routine vet and specialist were a little concerned over my home cooking.  It has been almost 6 months now off commercial food.  At her last checkup (last week) they both were stuned at her body condition, health and blood tests. She has never looked so healthy.  They each told me they recommended to keep feeding home cooked meals if possible. They each recommended new foods to be added to the diet; like black beans, pumpkin, whole milk cottage cheese and yogurt. We are also upping the fish oil to 2000 mg. Since the recalls in March, I've found the vets to be more knowledgeable about nutrition and interested in what I'm cooking and how I'm going about it. It's great! it feels like we are building a parternship.

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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2007, 08:43:53 PM »

Katie nice to know someone else feeds pumpkin, yogurt and cottage cheese. My dog loves the Kalona organic yogurt-the milk is from grass fed beef. I also buy the Kalona whole milk - it just tastes so great - like milk used to over 20 yrs. ago.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2007, 10:34:43 PM »

I just went to a new vet today, recommended by the holistic vet I called (who's much farther away).  He's a combination conventional and holistic vet...and not only did he very much agree with me not to fill my cat with drugs (he's a pet food survivor with CRF), but he SWEARS by Dr. Pitcairn's book and gave me a raw/cooked recipe that I might be able to do, at least some of the time.  I think I'm gonna like this guy. Smiley

My previous vet had the usual view of pre-made food and drugs, and tried to discourage me in my holistic endeavors with my kitty.

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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2007, 12:01:42 PM »

I am currently looking for a new vet,Holistic & conventional. The nearest 1 is 45 mins away so I may use the old 1 for emergencies. Have had the 3 dogs tested & all have T4 problems,weird liver counts,trouble concentrating urine & accidents. Haven't tested the cats yet;but no problems so far. My vet is not happy that I went to home cooked. She called me last week with Fragiles results & suggested that the homemade food was the problem. Kind of stymied her when I reminded her that we started home cooking after the other 2 dogs developed problems. Now she reluctantly agrees it was 1 of the old foods. The dogs are different breeds,ages & adopted at different times.The beagle was 2-3 when we got her & had never had any vet care til we had her;so it isn't from shots or meds. All water for everyone is filtered 4 times. If it was something toxic in the house or yard we would all be sick. Only 3 things left; the big 3 dry dog foods which they all ate to some degree.She even suggested retests this time. Last 2 I had to insist.But she still was upset that I am cooking for the cats too.If anyone knows a really good vet in southern NJ please let me know.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2007, 07:48:29 PM »

lesliek just glad that you can home cook and your pets are healthier because of it. I do that and my dogs coat is so improved, so soft and shiny - with I could make a coat out of it or blanket - it is that soft. Also just recv'd a post card reminding me that my dog is due for a heart worm test. I have had dogs for over 30 yrs and never, ever gave any of them drugs to prevent something that not a one of em ever got in the first place. Heartworm chemicals contain strichnine which is a poison. Ask yourself - what else does this stuff kill inside a pet once given it on a weekly, monthly or however the dosage is given. Don't really know dosing as have never used it and won't. 
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