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« on: September 14, 2008, 08:09:02 AM »

I have two indoor cats and I never use flea/tick medicine for them since they do not go outside.  However, since we started having a flea problem with my dogs and the cats started itching, we decided to just use one application of Advantage on them to be safe.

Within five minutes of the application, both cats started foaming at the mouth and became lethargic.  I was so scared that I contacted the company.  They just said that they must have licked it and they were foaming "because the taste was so bitter!"  They collected information from me such as my cats' names, ages, and weight.  (I feel like it's because this is still a relatively new product, and they wanted this info for their research.)  In the meantime, both cats were just lying there with foam dripping out of their mouths!  They said that I could wash it off of them with Palmolive soap if I wanted. 

I immediately washed both cats and they seemed to be better.  However, one cat refused to eat the entire day and seemed very stressed.

I just wanted to put a warning out there to any of you who use or are thinking of using Advantage.  I will certainly never use it again.  I was panic stricken! 

Please be careful!
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2008, 08:20:36 AM »

How frightening that must have been!  Are both kitties totally fine now?  How horrible!

I've never even heard of that brand before, but I'll certainly remember it now.  Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2008, 08:27:19 AM »

Bayer makes it.  The same company that makes Advantix for dogs.

Yes, so far, it seems like both cats are ok now.  I'm still just really shaken.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2008, 08:47:03 AM »

Moonlight,

Here's what's in the FDA/CVM Green Book (Veterinary Drugs) Adverse Reports--the Adverse Reports were updated July 7, 2008--

http://advantage.petparents.com/howItWorks.cfm

"Use Advantage monthly to kill fleas within minutes. The active ingredient is imidacloprid, which acts on the nervous system of the flea to cause paralysis and subsequent death."

http://www.fda.gov/cvm/Documents/ade_web_rpts_GL.pdf

Adverse Reports for Imidacloprid pages 27-38 covers adverse events of cats, dogs and people which were reported to FDA/CVM.

I'd report this to FDA.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2008, 08:49:05 AM »

Sorry to hear that happened.  I do know that you have to put it high up on their neck so they can't lick it.  I've used the Advantage Multi a couple times on my three cats.  Bo ran off like I hit him when we applied it (I think the smell offended him), and then the next day managed to turn his head just far enough to get to the spot where it was applied and vomited shortly after.  We never used it again on him.  Cougar didn't have a problem with it but it was such a large amount of liquid to try to apply to a small cat that we did not use it again.  We have used it on Wilson a few times as it doesn't seem to bother him.  

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2008, 09:00:53 AM »

Moonlight, hope your kitties will get over this with no problems, but it might be good to take them in to get checked.

One thing that was talked about last year on here are the counterfeit versions of thses flea meds.  If you bought it from your vet it should be OK, but there were problems in the past of fake versions being sold through non-vet outlets that didn't work or caused problems.  Here is one post about it, but I think there is a whole thread somewhere on here:

http://itchmoforums.com/veterinary-and-medications/advantage-flea-product-t396.0.html;msg3915#msg3915

Several of my cats always reacted similar to what your cats did.  The second I applied it (back of head, not licked), they would race off foaming and shaking their head.  I haven't had one become lethargic or not eat for the day, so that is worrisome.  
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2008, 03:03:29 PM »

I'm sorry to hear about your kitties, Moonlight.  I hope they're back to normal now. 

After trying flea combing and using natural sprays, I finally had to use Advantage (regular, old plain Advantage) on my 14 pound boy kitty, and he seemed OK during and after I applied it.  More than anything, I hate to use a chemical on the pets, but the dogs had a few fleas, and the cat got them.  I applied it right between his shoulder blades and watched him carefully for the next several hours, ready to make a vet visit if he needed it.  He squinted his eyes for a few minutes, but didn't run away.  The tube was from the same box I had to use on him last fall, so I knew the lot was a "safe" one.

What are your lot numbers?  Look on the bottom flap of the box.  It will say "Lot No."  There are two lines of numbers & letters.  I'd report those numbers to Bayer and to the FDA as well when you call.  Best wishes. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2008, 05:37:40 PM »

Where did You get the Advantage? From the vets?
I have always used it, on all My cats and dogs, never had a problem. If fact, I really like it.
But When i worked for the vet, we did have one cat who had a reaction. the best thing to wash it off with is Dawn dish detergent.
Also, when I was grooming, i got some in and on My mouth. My whole mouth went numb. It was the strangest thing. And it tasts gross.
Sorry about your kitties.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2008, 05:41:09 PM »

Sorry about what happened to your kitties Moonlight.
Anytime I used the Advantage, I always did one kitty at a time and kept the separated so others would not groom them.  Sometimes it took a few days to get everyone done but the Advantage needs time to dry.

ETA: The instructions do tell the user to have the cats avoid grooming one another for a period of time.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2008, 06:04:51 PM »

Moonlight, I hope you kitties completely recover.  I hate to hear about your experience with Advantage.  I've used Advantage in the past and I did the same thing as Peg does because I was afraid of them grooming each other so they were kept in seperate rooms until they were dry. 

Still I worry, did you see them grooming themselves?  I agree I would write down the lot number and report them.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2008, 06:32:00 PM »

I am very sorry to hear that your cats have had this happen, Moonlight. 

I have not needed to use Advantage in about 10 years, but never had any problems with it.  I always got it from the vet.  One of my cats would react by twitching her back, jumping in the air, and then running off to hide when it was applied.  She also reacts this way any other type of ointment or treatment is applied.  (My cats do not engage in mutual grooming.)
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2008, 11:21:57 PM »

Sorry to hear that this happened to your cats, Moonlight. When I used Advantage I would keep my cats separated, too, to avoid any possible contact. I never had any trouble with the old Advantage, but now there's a new one called, I think, Advantage Plus. The vet suggested we read the package insert before deciding whether to use that this year. After reading about the number and types of adverse reactions we decided not to. I mean, everyone needs to make their own decisions and I don't question anyone's decision to use this; and it's used alot -I'm just saying they seem to have made the product much stronger and that made us uncomfortable.

As others have said, you might have the vet check your kitties, and report this to the company.

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2008, 12:05:54 AM »

This stuff sounds like it has some severe reactions that an animal may suffer from. Only use natural things in the home but glad for the info on this stuff.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2008, 02:23:23 PM »

Yikes, what a terrifying experience!  I'm so glad your kitties seem to be OK, but you might want to consider taking them to the vet to get some bloodwork done just to make sure.

I would also be interested to know if you got this product through the vet or through another source.  Let us know...
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2008, 07:43:11 AM »

Thank you everyone for your concern. 

It does seem that my cats have made a complete recovery and are back to normal.  But it was a frightening experience!

I did in fact get this product from a vet and I think I will report it to the FDA. 

Thanks again for all your kind words.
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