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« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2008, 09:44:21 AM » |
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catmom5+- It may always be a problem because of the pregnancy. She may always be defensive unless its her offspring. I was able to do it,but still have occasional problems. But Punkin was an adult & Oreo a kitten when we got them,so Punkin always seemed to allow Oreo more leeway because he was so young. Look how well Linley has turned out though[after many months of work].
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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2008, 11:04:16 AM » |
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We had a similar situation with Phantom, who was also a pregnant stray. Once her kittens were weaned and adopted out, and she was then spayed, it got a lot easier. She gradually mellowed out over the next 6 months after spaying. I think the hormones and the need to defend the territory for the kittens have a lot to do with it. Ten years later, she still doesn't like most of the other cats getting too close to her (will meow or sometimes hiss), but tolerates their general presence very well. She loves to cuddle with baby-faced 11-year-old kitty Kalahari; I suspect that Kalahari brings out Phantom's "mother instinct."
Sassy may be fine with other cats once she is through with motherhood.
We still confine Linley at night, just to be on the safe side. And sometimes I still see him getting a little "twitchy," but he responds to voice commands to "leave it" and doesn't attack. He gets better every day, so it is only a matter of time, I think, and we won't have to worry at all any more.
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« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2008, 11:58:00 AM » |
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Some cats will always stay the same. I have fights going on here off and on. I actually had a vet ask Me what to do when the guy she was going to marry had a cat and these cats hated each other. i told Her to buy a cat playpen. I had 2 at the time for My females to have their kittens in. She kept one cat in the playpen for a while, so they could smell each other but couldn't really hurt each other. It turned out fine, and now they live together. No fighting.
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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2008, 12:45:23 PM » |
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I think Catbird and Leslie are right about the pregnancy being a factor. I've had many adult cats that were wanderers come in and join an already estabished group over the years, and the results are all over the map. It worked very well in the past and I had a wonderfully peaceful group of four that didn't fuss often, although they weren't all close friends. One kitty could be fussy with the others but then would snuggle with them, too! Three of that group have gone to the Bridge and the two that have joined us since still exhibit territorial behavior, chasing others away from favored spots sometimes. One was in a single cat home for his first five years and the other had been a free ranging feral or semi-feral. (Pretty Girl as seen in my avatar). It has taken a long time but the fussing has pretty much calmed down. I feel they are happy, but they 're just not real pals with each other. Sorry that this experience seems to contradict itself!  But I think it depends on the individual cats in the group and how they work it out together and we humans aren't always privy to those feline communications! She might do fine in one multi-cat household but not another, and it would just be a matter of trying it, and hoping that it would work.
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2008, 12:59:39 PM » |
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Just catching up with this thread. Sassy is certainly pretty and seems to know how to pose for the camera!
A baby gate really might slow her down. If the door to her room opens in to the room, perhaps you could put the gate right in front of the door on the hallway side? That way you would open the door and the gate would be right in her face. It might confuse her enough to slow down her escape.
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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2008, 02:30:53 PM » |
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I'd considered the baby gate, too, but my guess is that she would be over it faster than I could grab her. So I just open the door a bit and if the squirt doesn't deter her, I grab her and carry her back in. So far the squirt has worked.
Thanks all for your good ideas. That Sassy is a tricky one . . . and determined!! (Torti-tude? You bet!!)
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« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2008, 04:19:20 PM » |
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I should know better than to post about food. Wouldn't ya know it but Sassy continues to have the diarrhea (without any intestinal parasites) so the vet suggested that the wellness was likely too rich for her after living outside and catching her own meals. I have options: put her back on a "mouse" diet (not here) or start her on the low residue with some baby food turkey and chicken to get her poop firmed up. At least I have some of the low residue so that's the way I'm going. Gotta get this taken care of before the babies get here and she's feeding a thundering herd!
Put posters up in vet offices and the MSU vet clinic today, as well as my chiropractor's office. We're going to do an xray next week to see how many babies we have . . . she's really getting huge!
Sassy is adjusting to being an indoor only catgirl, although she still cries to let her outside (via open window) but the other five have lost their patience. Gracie is pooping outside the box again and the phantom pee-er was back. I'm just doing what I gotta do right now and hope that we have a wonderful angel who wants to adopt her. (Don't think the babies will be hard to find good homes for . . .)
@%#@$%@$#% on the food situation!! I was hoping to get the Iams out of the house forever.
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« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2008, 04:50:41 PM » |
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Ah, the territorial battles! Does Feliway help Gracie and the pee-er with such issues? Only a matter of time til you can get the Iams out of there. Sassy may firm up in a couple of weeks with a gradual transition. I am sure it will be a lot easier to find a home for Sassy once she isn't pregnant or with a litter in tow. I wonder if we should start a baby pool to guess the number of kittens before you find out for sure?  edit--I started a separate thread with a poll.
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« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2008, 04:55:53 PM » |
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5 kittens............ catmom5+Sassy+5 kittens...............nice easy math 
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« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2008, 05:01:52 PM » |
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Can they do an ultrasound instead of an x-ray? Are x-rays a standard procedure for pregnant cats? I haven't a clue.
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« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2008, 05:08:25 PM » |
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You all have waaaay too much time on your hands.  Actually, Sassy and I have already had that conversation and we agreed that three would be a lovely number! The chiropractor is using very safe xrays that he uses in his office and I don't think he would ever do anything to harm Sassy or the babies! BTW, you might want to know what the winner of the poll gets as a prize . . . catmom5
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« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2008, 05:09:51 PM » |
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BTW, you might want to know what the winner of the poll gets as a prize . . .
I think we can all guess that one accurately. 
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« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2008, 05:11:27 PM » |
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BTW, you might want to know what the winner of the poll gets as a prize . . .
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« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2008, 05:20:08 PM » |
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I will have to guess 15. [I can't win one of the prizes,I have an extra dog & my bil has 3 feral kittens looking for a home.]
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« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2008, 06:25:34 PM » |
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catmom5 - Sorry about Sassy's diarrhea. Taking care of that comes first, though, so, as always, when it comes to food, sometimes you have to do what is best and not what you like. I'm sure she will be just fine until she adapts to a "regular" diet and indoor life. Maybe you should check with the vet and make sure the x-rays will be okay? They are not recommended for human pregnant moms, so I don't know about kitties. Ultrasound would, of course, be better, but not worth spending the money probably. We could just be surprised and let nature take its course!  But, I know, curiosity...... 
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