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« Reply #915 on: October 10, 2008, 03:30:09 PM » |
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Thank you, 5CatMom; done. We'll see how Mr. "black grains of sand" responds
to criticism of his adulteration-condoning risk assessment models.
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« Reply #916 on: October 10, 2008, 03:42:11 PM » |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7664339.stmBBC News October 10, 2008 France pulls tainted Chinese food "France has recalled sweets and biscuits made with Chinese dairy after finding high levels of an industrial chemical. "The recall of White Rabbit sweets and Koala biscuits is the first such order to be made by a European country. "French consumers were warned to destroy or return the tainted products after tests showed high levels of melamine, which can cause kidney failure. "The first results of tests conducted in France have shown a melamine level above the warning level set by the European Commission at 2.5mg per kilo," the agriculture ministry said in a statement. "The recall is the strongest measure yet taken by a European country amid a worldwide health scare over Chinese milk products that has led several countries to ban dairy imports from China."
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« Reply #918 on: October 10, 2008, 04:07:23 PM » |
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They banned, but didn't recall so the stuff was already in the country? |
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« Reply #919 on: October 10, 2008, 04:30:39 PM » |
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It looks like the bans didn't cover the other products containing Chinese milk like the White Rabbit candy and the cookies. http://africa.reuters.com/wire/news/usnLA418408.htmlReuters October 10, 2008 Malawi bans Chinese milk product imports "Malawi has banned imports of all Chinese milk products after contaminated milk and formula killed four children and made thousands others ill in China, the trade minister said on Friday. "Director-general of Malawi's bureau of standards, Devlin Chokazinga, said authorities were testing some samples of imported powdered milk from China and Asia." |
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« Reply #920 on: October 10, 2008, 04:56:18 PM » |
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Edited to add: * MALAWI: banned imports of all Chinese milk products Population: 13,931,831 (CIA World Factbook 2008) 68 countries worldwide ban Chinese dairy products as of October 10, 2008 46.96 percent of all the people in the world have now blocked import of Chinese milk products or Chinese food imports When is the United States of America going to stand with these 68 decent nations putting human food safety first and refuse to be bullied by the government of China? |
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« Reply #921 on: October 10, 2008, 05:14:58 PM » |
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3cat- Re: formaldehyde dissolving melamine: http://www.csl.gov.uk/newsAndResources/documents/wekellPres.pdfPage 51 (25 of 35) You see two photos of kidney tissue with crystals on the page. The one on the left is before the use of formalin to "fix" the tissue. The photo on right is the same tissue after use of the formalin; formalin used on Friday afternoon, photo on right taken Monday morning after formalin use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formaldehyde"Aqueous solutions of formaldehyde are referred to as formalin. "100%" formalin consists of a saturated solution of formaldehyde (roughly 40% by mass) in water, with a small amount of stabilizer, usually methanol to limit oxidation and polymerization. "Formaldehyde preserves or fixes tissue or cells by irreversibly cross-linking primary amino groups in proteins with other nearby nitrogen atoms in protein or DNA through a -CH2- linkage. This is exploited in ChIP-on-chip transcriptomics experiments." |
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« Reply #922 on: October 10, 2008, 05:15:27 PM » |
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I wonder if there is anything We can be sure does not have melamine in it?  |
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« Reply #923 on: October 10, 2008, 05:29:42 PM » |
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I don't know, Trudy. Just things where protein content does not determine product value maybe. I'm only sure
there's nothing China makes that can't be had elsewhere in the world.
menusux, looking at those slides, with massive ingestion and sudden linkage, I don't even want to think about
the pain.
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« Reply #924 on: October 10, 2008, 05:40:19 PM » |
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I think your best bet is U.S.A. sourced certified organic foods. You just have to try to reduce risk as much as possible. Anything with dairy products I'd be extra careful, or made with flours of any kind, especially 'high protein' ingredients. Try to go U.S.A. organic on those. I noticed that my 2-stage Pur water filter reduces atrazine by 94%. I'd drink some sort of filtered water to lower overall exposure to this stuff. Hopefully its degradation products are filtered, too. Here is a discussion where a guy on a well found cyanuric acid at 11 ppm in his water. Are you drinking filtered water now, Trudy? http://www.terrylove.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19418 |
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« Reply #925 on: October 10, 2008, 06:33:31 PM » |
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I have city water. Probably not too good.
I am supposed to eat a lot of protien, because of my weight loss. Or drink it. It doesn't have to be meat, though.
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« Reply #926 on: October 10, 2008, 08:32:22 PM » |
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Trudy- Try a Brita,Pur or Zero water pitcher. It will help.They also make attachments for the kitchen faucet.The reverse osmosis is supposed to be the best,but its pricey.
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« Reply #927 on: October 10, 2008, 10:27:18 PM » |
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Lot of bottled water is processed with reverse osmosis and that is what we use at home. Only use tap water for washing dishes, clothes and to take showers but have a filter on my shower head to take our chlorine and other things. Might want to read up on pros and cons of water pitchers. Read the Brita only lasts for like 30 times and then its no good but don't know if you can change the filter or you just throw it away. Are these water pitchers made in america or in melaland? Remember the plastic could be made from mix of melamine and waster water run off from the melamine cause we know how much they want to make a buck and cut costs as we have been shown a lot of lately IMO.
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« Reply #928 on: October 11, 2008, 06:45:10 AM » |
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The filters are replaceable in the pitchers. Mine isn't new & is made here,but no idea where they are made now.
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« Reply #929 on: October 11, 2008, 09:06:38 AM » |
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Singapore and Japan find melamine in seven Chinese food products Taiwan News, Website Editorial Staff 2008-10-11 11:59 AM(Taiwan News)- Singapore announced on Oct 9 that melamine was found in 3 Chinese food products, including Panda Dairy Milky Powder. Cadbury chocolate blueberry flavor and coffee flavor both contain melamine. The former has 21.4 to 33.9 parts per million, and the latter has up to 92.3 ppm. Panda Dairy Milky Powder that is not on sale in stores has been provided to food production companies in Singapore. Singapore’s Agricultural Bureau said the milk powder was no longer in use after Sep 19, but they were not sure how many local-made products used this brand of milk powder.Japan found 17 to 36 ppm of melamine in 4 items of croissants imported by Top Trading Company from Jiangsu Province, China. The company has recalled related products. So far in Japan, some brands of pastries, chocolate, egg tarts imported from China have been examined with melamine. http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/mhidkfkfqlgb/Thousands of Chinese children remain ill after milk scandal Hong Kong's food regulator said it found melamine in EDO Pack Almond Cacao Biscuit Sticks produced by Hong Kong company EDO Trading Co |
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