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« Reply #825 on: October 07, 2008, 09:49:48 AM »

Great link, 5Cat. Hope they enjoyed the earful. It really would be nice to see an FDA statement
on what the agency would like to do about melamine food safety if all bugetary restrictions were
removed.

Please, everyone, let the FDA know what you think. And keep a sharp eye out for accurate figures from
China and all other countries on the numbers of babies and infants affected.
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« Reply #826 on: October 07, 2008, 09:58:40 AM »

Here, the FDA answers questions about melamine:

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/melamqa.html

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« Reply #827 on: October 07, 2008, 10:05:32 AM »

All well and good, but where are the published independent FDA test results and testing level limits/methods
on actual products available in US grocery stores that I actually buy, including products labeled as made in the USA?
The failure to mention numbers of tests and products tested raises questions as to the effectiveness of the monitoring.
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« Reply #828 on: October 07, 2008, 10:37:53 AM »

http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20081007-92106.html

AsiaOne News Singapore October 7, 2008

Melamine testing for pet food

"Pet food and livestock feed here will undergo melamine tests, according to the Agri-Food and Veterinary Authority of Singapore (AVA).


"AVA spokesman Goh Shih Yong told my paper that the agency will move on to animal food after it finishes testing its samples of human food products.

"He said: "We want to check if there's any adulteration in other protein-related substances.""



http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/10/07/asia/AS-Vietnam-Tainted-Milk.php

International Herald Tribune October 7, 2008

Vietnam finds tainted milk from China


"Melamine contamination has been found in 23 milk products imported into Vietnam from China, officials said Tuesday, intensifying consumer worries about tainted milk products.

"Five more products tested positive for the industrial chemical, which is usually used in making plastics and fertilizers. So far authorities have found 23 contaminated products after testing 400 samples of milk and milk products, Vietnam's vice minister of health Cao Minh Quang said.

"About 300 tons of products, mostly imported from China, have been recalled, said the ministry's chief inspector, Tran Quang Trung."



http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jsH_So-km9lAdu_m8cO2QY19I2zA

AFP October 7, 2008

China declines to say how many children affected in milk scandal

""China on Tuesday declined to release updated figures revealing how many children have been affected by the tainted milk scandal, as it attempted to boost confidence in its food safety standards.

"The health ministry said it had new statistics showing how many babies were believed to have been left ill by the crisis, but did not release the data and gave no indication if or when it would make the latest information public.

""We've not released the latest number of cases because it is not an infectious disease, so it's not absolutely necessary for us to announce it to the public," a health ministry spokesman told AFP.

"The World Health Organisation in Beijing said it had not been informed of the updated data either.

"The foreign ministry said it was not in a position to make the figures public.

""We have no authority to make the health ministry release the figure. They are the department in charge," said a foreign ministry spokesman."
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« Reply #829 on: October 07, 2008, 11:04:49 AM »

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=f6a88bfe-49c9-48f2-aa92-f027711a01d5

Calgary Herald (CA) October 6, 2008

Malaysia tests Chinese vegetables and fruits for melamine

"Malaysia will test fruit and vegetables imported from China following reports that they may contain the industrial chemical melamine, a senior minister said Monday.

""It is a precautionary measure on our side," Health Minister Liow Tiong Lai told reporters.

""We are on high alert with this issue and will zoom in on whatever news we receive for now," he said.

"China is a major trading partner and exports a large variety of vegetables and fruits to Malaysia including potatoes, cabbage and cauliflower.

"Liow said vegetables could have been contaminated by melamine through fertilizers and pesticides."
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« Reply #830 on: October 07, 2008, 11:10:23 AM »

Cabbage and other leafy greens, along with mushrooms, seem to accumulate a lot of melamine from what I have read. 

As for the FDA info- mercial----pathetic!   No need to worry until we stop peeing!  Gee, is that too late?  And why would they think other proteins would not be contaminated?  Anyone???  I am pulling out my hair with frustration at the ineptitude and disregard for human and animal health!  Is there any hope left at all?

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« Reply #831 on: October 07, 2008, 11:29:25 AM »

http://www.stuff.co.nz/southlandtimes/4716901a22356.html
Fonterra is in the dark about its liability for compensation payouts as the global fallout from the Sanlu tainted milk saga continues.

Gee, whiz, Fonterra has been in the dark here ever since it started doing business in China in 2007. Didn't know about Sanlu's melamine
additives. Couldn't do anything about melamine contamination because its three Sanlu board of directors members were outvoted. Poor Fonterra. Could only accept 43 percent of the Sanlu profits. Does this sound ridiculous to anyone else?

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« Reply #832 on: October 07, 2008, 11:52:25 AM »

Yes.  And so does this from the FDA babble page:
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"Will FDA's Safety and Risk Assessment of Melamine and Melamine-Related Compounds in human foods be subject to peer review?
FDA is identifying a group of experts to convene a scientific advisory board that will be charged with reviewing the risk assessment. This group will also be asked to contribute to future scientific analysis related to the risk of melamine and melamine-related compounds to humans and animals."
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So, in other words, in the mean time, until any more study or review is done, go ahead and eat it!!!!!  I will write and ask their level of inspection and analysis method.  I just can not take this government's incompetence and dereliction of duty anymore.  I really feel like I can't take it.  Maybe my food supply has fed a toxic personality---but I am feeling pretty toxic at this point.

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« Reply #833 on: October 07, 2008, 12:04:47 PM »

I just wrote to the FDA and that felt so good.  A brief catharsis. I hope they are getting a lot of comments.  Unfortunately, the financial meltdown is garnering most people's attention.  If only these two events had not coincided.  Unfortunately when it rains it pours.  This is such an impotent government!  Absolute dereliction of duty!
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« Reply #834 on: October 07, 2008, 12:30:10 PM »

DMS,

Very good job.  I hope they get a couple of million comments. 

We need to post that comment link all over, so that many others will see it.

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« Reply #835 on: October 07, 2008, 12:32:10 PM »

http://www.flex-news-food.com/pages/19564/Chemical/China/Coffee/Food-Safety/Hungary/Nestle/Restaurant/hungary-melamine-detected-chinese-restaurants-nestle-product.html

FlexNews October 6, 2008

Hungary: Melamine Detected in Chinese Restaurants and in Nestle Product

"Traces of melamine have been discovered in products in a number of Chinese restaurants in Hungary, food safety official said today. It was also confirmed that melamine tainted Nestle products discovered at the weekend would be tested further.

"But the authorities said the melamine content found at the restaurants was so far within prescribed safety limits.

"Miklos Suth, of the Agriculture Ministry’s food safety office, said: “Food products with melamine levels under the limits defined by food safety rules were found in a number of Chinese restaurants during the weekend."

"He also confirmed that a shipment of Nestle coffee product contaminated with the industrial chemical discovered on 4 October was still under examination. Test results will be released later in the week, said Mr Suth. Nestle had requested the examination of a 5.5 ton stock of Coffee Mate imported from Thailand but not yet placed on sale.

"He added that the product would be destroyed if the levels of melamine exceeded legal levels."



http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=755627

eTaiwan News October 5, 2008

China exports toxic strawberry powder to Taiwan

"A company at Taoyuan Country sent their products to test and found out 6ppm melamine in the strawberry Sticks and 33ppm in another product, which was also made of strawberry powder. The company said the milk powder in cookies was imported from Australia and Netherlands, but the strawberry powder material was from another company at Taichung City , which imported that from China.

"Bureau of Health in Taichung City had dispatched and took the samples of dried strawberry to text at 23:00 on Oct. 3.

"The general manager of the company, said that only one of the five strawberry powder carbons was opened and supplied for the company this year. In addition, they had examined the products and did not find out pesticides and heavy metal when importing. However, melamine was not the test item then, they have sent the sample to test this morning."
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« Reply #836 on: October 07, 2008, 01:06:17 PM »

From Russia:
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=13147127&PageNum=0
Over 2 tonnes of dry milk from China found in Tomsk
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Thread is getting long and dates cross over.)]



From the Phillippines:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com:80/nation/10/07/08/bfad-expand-safety-tests-non-dairy-products
BFAD to expand safety tests to non-dairy products
by CARMELA FONBUENA, abs-cbnNEWS.com/Newsbreak | 10/07/2008 7:44 PM

Bureau of Food and Drugs (BFAD) chief Leticia Gutierrez has asked food manufacturing companies that use ingredients from China to submit to the bureau a complete list of their raw materials

House committee on agriculture and food chairman Palawan Rep. Abraham Mitra expressed concern over the possibility that China would dump its export surpluses to the Philippines because of the US financial crisis.
With the US economic slowdown and reduced consumer spending, the US, a major trade partner of China, is expected to reduce its food imports.


Polig said they will write the manufacturing companies to inform them of the new procedure of BFAD on full disclosure of raw materials used in food products
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« Reply #837 on: October 07, 2008, 01:08:57 PM »

From Taiwan (no statistical studies cited to back up the opinion):

http://www.taipeitimes.com:80/News/editorials/archives/2008/10/08/2003425337
How to keep chemicals far from the dinner table
By Chang Yeh-Shen Wednesday, Oct 08, 2008, Page 8
Taiwan has the highest rate of kidney dialysis patients per capita in the world. This is not a sign that our national health insurance system is doing its job, but rather the result of excessive and even abusive reliance on medicines and of rampant contamination in our food. The latter problem is related to the government’s failure to implement strict screening procedures to block tainted imports from China.

Quoted earlier in this thread:
http://www.bio-medicine.org/medicine-news-1/Chronic-Kidney-Disease-Growing-Globally-22854-1/
Chronic Kidney Disease Growing Globally - Taiwanese study published in The Lancet, June 2008
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« Reply #838 on: October 07, 2008, 02:55:42 PM »

I just wrote to the FDA and that felt so good.  A brief catharsis. I hope they are getting a lot of comments.  Unfortunately, the financial meltdown is garnering most people's attention.  If only these two events had not coincided.  Unfortunately when it rains it pours.  This is such an impotent government!  Absolute dereliction of duty!

I also brought up a point in my comment that JJ and others of us have found hard to swallow.  Why are we importing dairy (and other proteins and goods) products from China when we, ourselves, are an exporter.  We export to Mexico.  Of course we all know the answer, but I thought it was still worth raising.  $$$$$$$  This system is so out of whack in every way. Gee, if they really want to save the environment, save money on theoretical inspections, and not exploit foreign workers, they could just let American companies provide the products.  How did it get so convoluted and twisted?  Bring the food all the way from China when we have it right here, and are sending it to Mexico,etc.....this isn't efficient or even remotely sensible.   Now it's downright dangerous.
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« Reply #839 on: October 07, 2008, 03:25:52 PM »

http://www.wisconsinagconnection.com/story-national.php?Id=2337&yr=2008

Congress to Investigate Melamine & Chinese Milk Products
USAgNet - 10/07/2008

"Reps. John D. Dingell (D-Mich.), chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, announced that the committee is expanding its food safety investigation following the recent outbreak in China involving contaminated milk products.

"The panel will specifically review what steps the Food and Drug Administration is taking to ensure that U.S. consumers are protected from Chinese-made food products contaminated with melamine. To date, melamine-tainted milk products have poisoned more than 53,000 children in China, Macao, Hong Kong, and Taiwan, and are responsible for at least four deaths.

"The lawmakers stated that the situation highlights the need for robust inspections and enforcement by FDA as well as country of origin labeling on all foods, including processed foods. Dingell said that Congress will have to turn FDA into a meaningful regulator of imports or ban food from China and other unprotected sources.

"The committee has held numerous hearings over the past months on food safety issues and is developing comprehensive legislation to strengthen FDA and food safety policies."
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