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« Reply #855 on: October 07, 2008, 10:02:10 PM »

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Here's Liberia and also Senegal banning Chinese milk products:

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gJljxDLKXA8OpLSDNSnvX2OjhpwQ

AFP October 7, 2008

Two more African countries to ban Chinese milk

"Liberia and Senegal have become the latest African countries to ban Chinese milk products following the tainted milk scandal that left tens of thousands of children ill in the Asian country.

""In September we received reports that these products made lot of victims in China, and that a good quantity has been shipped towards Africa. On October 2 the same report was reiterated," Liberian Minister of Commerce Frederick Nuckeh told state radio on Tuesday.

""Based on this information, we have decided to put a temporary ban on the milk from China until the problem is solved," he added.

"The press agency APS reported Tuesday that Senegal has also banned the sale of all milk products from China.

""We will not wait for the milk to arrive in Senegal before reacting," the minister of cattle farming, Oumou Khairy Gueye Seck, was quoted as saying at a press conference Monday.

""Together with the health ministry and the commerce ministry we have signed a ban on the sale of milk products from China," he added.

"Both the Liberian and the Senegalese authorities have said the customs authorities on the borders will be extra vigilant to make sure Chinese milk does not enter their countries illegally.

"Several African countries have already banned Chinese milk products including Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Gabon, Togo, Benin, Tanzania and the D emocratic Republic of Congo".
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« Reply #856 on: October 08, 2008, 05:11:39 AM »

Oct 8, 2008 China sets limit for melamine in milk:

"""Safe melamine limits were set at 1 part per million of infant formula and 2.5 parts per million for liquid milk, milk powder and food products that contain more than 15 percent milk.

There had been no previous standards and levels of melamine discovered in batches of milk powder recently registered as much as 6,196 parts per million. Chinese health officials have said no harm comes from consuming less than 0.63 parts per million."""


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/08/AR2008100800325.html

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« Reply #857 on: October 08, 2008, 06:13:33 AM »

Oct 8, 2008 China sets limit for melamine in milk:

"""Safe melamine limits were set at 1 part per million of infant formula and 2.5 parts per million for liquid milk, milk powder and food products that contain more than 15 percent milk.

Chinese health officials have said no harm comes from consuming less than 0.63 parts per million."""


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/08/AR2008100800325.html

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I wonder how they came up with 0.63ppm as a harmless amount of contamination--and why they set acceptable limits at 1 and 2.5 parts per million when those numbers are above the alleged "safe" number.   I really doubt those poor babies, or anyone else for that matter, needs any more melamine in their systems.
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« Reply #858 on: October 08, 2008, 06:46:34 AM »

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Maybe they checked with the "gold standard", the US's FDA.

It's beyond me why anyone would believe that food producers have either the will or the ability to hold the amount of contamination to 2.5 ppm, or to any limit.

Dishonest food producers are being rewarded with "allowable limits"  -- a green light for the contamination to continue.

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« Reply #859 on: October 08, 2008, 06:52:17 AM »

Oct 8, 2008 Fears Chinese vegies sold in Australia tainted with melamine

"""Australian food authorities are investigating reports of melamine contamination of vegetables and will complete a safety assessment.

Chinese products imported into Australia include fresh garlic and peas, frozen mixed vegetables, canned mushrooms and tomato paste.""""


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24465166-661,00.html

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« Reply #860 on: October 08, 2008, 07:18:25 AM »

http://africa.reuters.com/world/news/usnTRE4974YX.html

China milk victims may have reached 94,000
Wed 8 Oct 2008, 12:27 GMT Reuters

"The toll of Chinese children ill from toxic milk formula may have nearly doubled since the Health Ministry's last public count, local media reports show, but an official said on Wednesday the number of new cases was falling.

"Beijing is struggling with fallout from adulteration of milk with the industrial chemical melamine. At home four babies have died, and thousands of infants fell sick, while around the world products made with Chinese milk have been recalled.

"The government has not updated figures issued on September 21, when it said that 12,892 infants were in hospital, 104 with serious illness, and close to 40,000 others were affected but did not need major treatment.

"But reports from local media across the country compiled by Reuters suggest the number of affected children has risen to nearly 94,000, although most are not in a serious condition.

"In some areas diagnoses rocketed up in the space of just a few days. In the most extreme case, northwestern Gansu province, the number of sick children climbed to 13,459 by Sept 26 from 1,695 a week earlier, the official Xinhua agency said.

"Worst hit so far is central Henan province, with over 30,000 cases by the end of September. Neighbouring Hebei also has nearly 16,000 cases. The province is home to Sanlu Dairy group, which made the contaminated formula that sparked the broader scandal.

"Despite the rash of cases across the country -- few areas appear to have been entirely immune -- the government says it has the problem under control and recent checks have found no trace of melamine, the toxic additive, in liquid milk.

"The number of sick children appearing at hospitals is also falling after news of the problem has blanketed domestic media and spread across the internet, prompting parents to take extra care about what they feed their children.

""The daily reports of infants who were diagnosed and hospitalized are decreasing noticeably, " said Chen Junshi, a researcher from Institute of Nutrition and Food Safety of Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention.

"But he declined to say how many had been ill overall.

""I'm not authorised to publish the number of sick infants," he added at a news conference held by the Ministry of Health.

"Even if the pace of new diagnoses is slowing, there is still room for a major leap in the total number of affected children because some of the country's most densely populated cities and provinces, like Shanghai, have not yet disclosed any figures."
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« Reply #861 on: October 08, 2008, 09:23:04 AM »

(See countries chart banning Chinese milk products or Chinese food imports, Reply 853, page 57)

Edited to add on Wednesday, October 8, 2008 *SENEGAL and *BIRKINA FASO and *D EMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO (see Reply 856, page 58)

Bringing to 65 the number of countries worldwide where food safety comes first

"China has run out of excuses, assurances and defenses. As a giant exporter of food and other products, its attitude toward consumer safety is a disgrace and a global health threat."


Thank you, menusux and JJ, for the country ban updates.
Given the over 7 million children in China between the ages of 0 to 4 years old live at or below the poverty line, where these lower priced Chinese milk products probably had most of their customers, I'm having trouble believing the Reuters' guess of 94,000 ill Chinese babies is even close.

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Other/Misc / Recall (Non-Pet Food) / Re: (Melamine Suspected) Chinese Officials Say Baby Formula Tied to Kidney Stoneson: September 30, 2008, 06:31:14 PM 
Started by menusux, Message by 3catkidneyfailureRelevance: 41.9%
http://www.iiasa.ac.at/Research/LUC/ChinaFood/data/pop/pop_7.htm
92.7 million of the Chinese people are children, aged 0 to 4 (estimated 2010)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html
8%
note: 21.5 million rural population live below the official "absolute poverty" line (approximately $90 per year); and
an additional 35.5 million rural population above that but below the official "low income" line (approximately $125 per year) (2006 est)

Reply 12, page 1 of this thread:
"San Lu, which is based in Hebei province, is China's biggest milk-powder producer and one of the 'big six' Chinese dairies that control
over half of China's fresh milk market."

.08 (Chinese children living in poverty CIA Factbook) x 92.7 million (Chinese children ages 0 to 4) =  7,360,000 Chinese children living at or below poverty level


Anyone besides me doubt the accuracy of the Chinese government report of 53,000 to 55,000 children affected here?
The food industry spinmeisters and the Chinese Communist Party seem to be filling the media with disinformation this week maybe?
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« Reply #862 on: October 08, 2008, 10:10:47 AM »

http://www.redorbit.com/news/business/1579708/a_scandal_that_keeps_growing/

A Scandal That Keeps Growing
Posted on: Monday, 6 October 2008, 15:00 CDT
The contaminated milk scandal widens daily and consumers are being worried by ever more reports of melamine-related product recalls ...

Clearly, the numbers of companies and products embroiled in the scandal extend far beyond Sanlu operations and Fonterra's involvement with them. That does not lessen the extent to which Fonterra bosses should be held to account for their failure to anticipate what has been described as a disaster waiting to happen.

Alarm bells should have clanged when the US Food and Drug Administration last year found ingredients imported from China, then used in more than 100 brands of American pet foods, may have been intentionally spiked with melamine to boost their apparent protein content. . Cats and dogs were sickened; many died. Some pigs that ate tainted feed were processed into human food. This scandal is one of many to highlight Chinese indifference to standards. Fonterra knows - or should know - the importance of setting standards and of maintaining reliable quality controls. Heads should roll because of its negligence through acquiescing to have things done the Chinese way.

Well, the Kiwis of New Zealand have it right. 65 other countries worldwide know what to do. Mr. Dingell, Mr. Stupak, Ms. DeLauro, where
are you? American consumers, who love their children deeply, need to hear serious ALARM BELLS to prevent this "disaster waiting to happen"
from happening a second time in the United States.
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« Reply #863 on: October 08, 2008, 10:50:43 AM »

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although most are not in a serious condition.

yeah, but what are the long term effects? How long will their kidneys hold up? Have they been permanently compromised (like the Chinese will tell us)? We are talking infants here.
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« Reply #864 on: October 08, 2008, 10:53:58 AM »

I sent an email to one of the toxicologists involved in the pet food recall asking his opinion of what was going on with the melamine scandal now and why last year they told us that the combo of CA and melamine was necessary for the kidney destruction and his response was that last week the Food Response Network was activated to see if it is just melamine or more than that...I also had asked him about any studies on the animals that survived the recall last year as he wanted to pursue that but he never did as he got no funding... Angry  Too bad that funding was not made available as it sure would come in handy now wouldn't it! Angry
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« Reply #865 on: October 08, 2008, 10:59:49 AM »

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2008/10/08/2003425337

Taipei Times October 8, 2008

How to keep chemicals far from the dinner table

"Taiwan has the highest rate of kidney dialysis patients per capita in the world. This is not a sign that our national health insurance system is doing its job, but rather the result of excessive and even abusive reliance on medicines and of rampant contamination in our food. The latter problem is related to the government’s failure to implement strict screening procedures to block tainted imports from China.

"In Anhui Province in 2004, hundreds of babies suffered malnutrition and 13 died after being fed fake baby formula with virtually no nutritional value. The malnourished infants developed what doctors called “big head disease,” where infants’ heads grew abnormally large while their bodies wasted away.

"Subsequently, 33 kinds of substandard milk powder were seized. Later it was reported that the milk powder had been repackaged and sold on the market as a result of corruption and collusion between local governments and private firms.

"In March this year, thousands of babies across China were diagnosed with kidney stones and tens of thousands were hospitalized. Seven babies have died so far in this latest milk powder debacle. Following a Chinese government investigation, 22 brands of infant formula were found to be contaminated with the chemical melamine.

"Melamine is not in itself deadly. When it is added to poor-quality milk powder to increase the apparent protein content, however, it can cause nutritional deficiencies such as “big head disease.” It also causes kidney and urethral stones and impairs the filtration and reabsorption functions of the renal tubules. In the end it can cause kidney failure, after which dialysis is required for survival.

"Twenty-five tonnes of milk powder imported from China’s Zhongshi Duqing (Shandong) Biotech Co have been found to contain up to 2,563 parts per million (ppm) of melamine. Earlier last month, Taiwan’s King Car Industrial Co commissioned tests on its products, which found that some of its instant coffees and one of its soups made with ingredients from China contained melamine.

"The spokesman for China’s Taiwan Affairs Office, Li Weiyi dismisses the tests conducted in Taiwan and claimed the products were melamine-free.


"Rather than offering solutions to the problem, the Department of Health loosened the limit for melamine in food to 2.5ppm from zero ppm, with no regard to the 2ppm standard applied to animal feed in Hong Kong and China.

"While European countries and the US employ gas chromatography with tandem quadruple mass spectrometry (GC-MS/MS) and liquid chromatography mass spectrometry (LC-MS/MS) with a detection minimum of 0.005ppm to identify toxic substances in aquatic plants and animals, until recently Taiwan employed high-pressure liquid chromatography with a sensitivity of only 2ppm to examine Chinese mitten crab tainted with carcinogenic nitrofurans and chloramphenicol that can cause aplastic anemia.

"Following repeated calls from experts, the government finally adopted GC-MS/MS and LC-MS/MS last year and managed to prevent tainted mitten crab from being imported from China. The change served to protect public health and revive domestic aquaculture.

"While the public is apprehensive about toxic milk powder from China, the government should call on concerned organizations to inspect imported products using their hundreds of advanced mass spectrometers. With the right policies, public health can be protected and Taiwan will eventually escape from the nightmare of being the “kingdom of kidney dialysis.”"
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« Reply #866 on: October 08, 2008, 01:27:53 PM »

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=13413&size=A

Japan has stepped up inspection of China-made animal feed and pet food that may be laced with melamine
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« Reply #867 on: October 08, 2008, 02:45:41 PM »

Canadian Government news release this afternoon.

Sherwood Brands Pirate's Gold Milk Chocolate Coins may be Contaminated with Melamine
Products from China -
OTTAWA, October 8, 2008 – The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) is warning the public not to consume, distribute, or sell the Sherwood Brands Pirate’s Gold Milk Chocolate Coins described below. This product is being recalled due to positive test results for melamine conducted by the CFIA
This product is sold nationally through Costco stores and may also have been sold in bulk packages or as individual pieces at various dollar and bulk stores across Canada.
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/corpaffr/newcom/2008/20081008e.shtml



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« Reply #868 on: October 08, 2008, 03:23:59 PM »

Thank you, billyD. Pretty close to home and Halloween, and from Cosco.

http://news.xinhuanet.com:80/english/2008-10/08/content_10166333.htm
Chinese police arrest 14 more people in milk scandal 
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    SHIJIAZHUANG, Oct. 8 (Xinhua) -- Police in north China's Hebei Province arrested 14 more people in connection with the country's tainted milk scandal, putting the total arrests in the province at27.
    Cao Aiping, Hebei Provincial Public Security Department's deputy director told Xinhua that police had questioned 91 people which generated 27 arrests, since the first 13 arrests on Sept. 29.
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« Reply #869 on: October 08, 2008, 03:32:17 PM »

http://itchmoforums.com/off-topic-no-politics/melamine-poisoning-tip-of-the-icecream-t6532.0.html

Cross posted from Off Topics (no politics)
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