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« Reply #1335 on: November 14, 2008, 09:57:53 AM »

Hmm, I seem to remember some definite harm caused by melamine in "finished products"...like pet food.
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« Reply #1336 on: November 14, 2008, 10:12:46 AM »

isn't infant formula also a "finished product'? Isn't the infant formula illnesses what sparked this import alert?

How stupid do they think we are?!   Shocked Shocked Angry Angry
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« Reply #1337 on: November 14, 2008, 10:33:25 AM »

They think we're totally spaced out, and perhaps most are exactly that.  How many people do you know who actually have added 2+2 and even give a thought to baby formula here in USA?  The majority of consumers are blissfully unaware.  I have a friend who is tube feeding a puppy w/ a formula for dogs.  The first thing that crossed my mind was "I wonder if this is safe or why wouldn't it contain melamine" and was so tempted to suggest she make her own formula starting w/ goats milk.  It would be awful to feed poison to a puppy that was already in distress.
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« Reply #1338 on: November 14, 2008, 11:11:15 AM »

A little birdie found this and sloooooow me is just now posting it, sorry! 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110703562.html

Washington Post November 8, 2008
Retracing the Path Toxic Powder Took To Food in China
 
Xue Jianzhong never posted a sign on his ground-floor shop, but somehow everyone knew what he was selling. Customers from all over this dairy farming region in the northeastern province of Hebei flocked to Xue's dusty street to buy special concoctions that he said would make milk more nutritious -- and more marketable.
Advertised as a "protein powder," the substance was sold in 44-pound bags and was tasteless, odorless and white, like talc. It wasn't cheap, about $1 a pound, but it could be mixed into inferior milk or even with specially treated water and the result would be a milklike liquid that would pass government quality tests.

It wasn't until September, when Xue was arrested in connection with the investigation into the poisoning of tens of thousands of babies across China, that it became clear his secret ingredient was a toxic industrial chemical called melamine.

Melamine can mimic protein in nutrition tests for milk and in products such as wheat gluten and chicken feed. But when ingested in large amounts, it can cause kidney stones or death in children and animals.

The problem is not just a domestic one. Melamine has surfaced in foods sold across Asia and, earlier, in pet food that poisoned animals in the United States, tainting China's reputation as the world's factory.

How the same substance that had killed pets and was officially banned in China as an additive in food just last year wound up in baby formula and so many other food products is a story of desperate farmers, complicit chemical companies, and government officials who looked the other way. All were part of a system that allowed the network of melamine dealers to thrive.

Farmers and companies involved in food and feed production said that the doctoring of their products was an open secret in the countryside but that the salesmen had told them it was harmless.

"Actually, every milk collection center bought a lot of melamine," said Wang, a 60-year-old farmer in the village of Yudi, in the Shijiazhuang area, who would not give his full name because he feared arrest. "Everybody did this."

China's melamine trade is run by a criminal syndicate that has relied on chemical companies and underground laboratories for its supply. The trade has been supported by a customer base so eager for the substance that for years it turned a blind eye to its potentially deadly effects. Traditionally used in the manufacture of plastics and leather, melamine has made its way into the food supply in a way that was never supposed to happen.


Initially covered up by officials afraid of losing their jobs and besmirching the Beijing Olympic Games, the melamine contamination began with infant milk formula, killing at least four infants and sickening 54,000 babies. It soon spread to candy, instant coffee, yogurt, biscuits and other products made with Chinese milk, prompting bans or recalls in 16 countries.

In recent weeks the toxin has been discovered in eggs and in animal feed, sparking fears that tainted foods go well beyond dairy products and may include fish, shrimp, beef and poultry.

"Almost all the animal feed companies I know added protein powder to their product until this September. So did our factory," said a sales manager surnamed Li, in a branch factory of the Liuhe Group, a large animal feed company in Shandong province. "Of course, no one dares to add it now."

The problem of melamine was supposed to have been fixed long ago.

When Chinese authorities discovered in the summer of 2007 that the chemical was behind the poisoning of thousands of cats and dogs in the United States, it was explicitly banned from both food and feed. Melamine is now considered a controlled substance in China, and its production and use are supposed to be strictly supervised by the government.

The government has bragged about its efforts to overhaul its regulatory system, shutter tens of thousands of factories and step up inspections. But it is clear that loopholes remain.


Xue's shop is in Xingtang County, just 30 miles north of the Shijiazhuang headquarters of the Sanlu Group, the dairy company whose milk powder is at the center of the widening scandal. Xue, who pocketed $150 for every ton of powder he sold, was part of a semiprofessional business that operated like any other start-up, according to farmers and other potential customers who were solicited by melamine dealers.

There were legitimate-looking stores, representatives at milk collection centers and even door-to-door salesmen. Customers with questions about how to use the melamine knew that technical assistance was just a phone call away.

In the impoverished countryside, farmers said they were quick to embrace the magic offered by con artists such as Xue, as the price of raw materials soared and government price controls squeezed their profits. During a recent program on state-run CCTV, Xue said that he himself drank only fresh milk, not the mixed kind, and that he knew melamine was harmful. He acknowledged that he sold it "to make more money."

While the income of China's rural residents has skyrocketed in recent years, the increase has not matched the pace of growth in the gross domestic product. Several dairy farmers said that over the past year, they have barely broken even.

The promise of greater profits was enticing, though not everyone was convinced.

"Last year, I got calls from people who said they could increase the protein in my feed by 50 percent, but I didn't believe them. It's impossible, unless you're cheating," said Sun Qingqing, sales manager of Hongsheng Feather Powder Factory, an animal feed company. "After the scandal, they disappeared or moved underground. I don't know how much they make, but those people drove Mercedes-Benz cars and BMWs."

Until recently, the salesmen would come every few months to Guo Junfeng's dairy farm in Shanxi province. "Even if you don't have milk, mix this substance with water and you will have something that is just like milk!" Guo remembers one of them telling him.

The salesmen were hawking two grades of the powder. The first contained whey protein, which can be collected from cheese made from cow's milk. That was the cheaper type and cost about $44 a bag, but it didn't always work perfectly. The second kind, which cost roughly $118 a bag, was more mysterious. The bag had some English writing on it that Guo could not decipher. The vendors said they couldn't read the letters either, and they could not explain what exactly was in the mix. But they said you could use the powder to create milk from any liquid.


Many of Guo's fellow farmers in the province were dazzled by the idea of increasing their profits as much as 300 percent, he said.

But Guo said he knew it was too good to be true. "I'm usually a very suspicious person," he said. "They said it was nothing dangerous, but I couldn't be sure."

Dairy industry analysts who have inspected the melamine powder said it appeared to have been created by sophisticated chemical technicians. Qiao Fuming, a dairy consultant in Beijing, said it was impossible to take raw melamine and mix it with milk because it won't dissolve. The melamine had to be converted into a form that could be mixed with liquids, he said. How melamine became popular in the countryside has as much to do with greedy chemical companies as with poor farmers.

As China's chemical industry began to take off in the late 1990s, so many factories were eager to get into the business that it created excess supply of certain substances.


The use of industrial ingredients in food did not start with melamine. When Chinese authorities began spot inspections as part of the crackdown in 2007, they found that poisonous dyes, mineral oils derived from the processing of petroleum, paraffin and other chemicals were being used to make candy, pickles, crackers and seafood.

The excess melamine supply peaked in 2006, and soon the melamine was coming to China's dairy-producing regions by the truckload.

Some dealers bought professional-quality melamine from chemical factories at almost $1,500 a ton.

Others bought melamine scrap, a byproduct from other processes and potentially even more hazardous when added to food products, for less than $50 a ton. It wasn't long before a group of middlemen, led by engineers, emerged to help market the scrap.

They had no trouble finding customers.

Jia Yazhou, a manager at a chemical company, said that last year he received several phone calls from people interested in buying melamine scrap.

"They said they would use it to make animal feed directly," said Jia, who works at Huixin Chemical Co., in Shijiazhuang's Wuji County. Jia said he refused, saying that his factory recycled the scrap and that he "didn't know what price to offer."

But he wasn't surprised by the calls. "The industry is so uncontrolled," he said.

Other sales managers at a chemical plant said they didn't dare ask why customers, including a large fish farm, wanted the melamine scrap. "I don't know if my customers tell me the truth or not. I didn't ask for what purpose they buy it," said Liu Qiujiang of Jinglong Fengli Chemical Co. in Hebei's Ningjin County.

Wu Jianping, a salesman at the Lixia chemical factory in Shandong province, said it was clear that some of his company's customers were not in industries that traditionally use melamine. But, he added: "We never ask what they use melamine for. If we ask, they say, 'You don't need to ask. You want to sell it. We want to buy it. That's all you need to know.
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« Reply #1339 on: November 14, 2008, 11:44:08 AM »

Blissfully unaware no thanks to our government and media. I mean, we were pretty much told not to buy formula from China, end of story. I also think that even though we've had so many food safety problems lately, it's hard to shake the belief that our food is safe. Many of us have grown up our whole lives believing that. In more recent years, "process food is bad for you" was about nutrition/health, not toxicity. It's really hard to wrap your head around the fact that everything in the center aisles could be toxic. And for that matter, even the outer aisles. And then we have our dishes and kitchen items posing a whole new problem. {sigh}, what's a person/family to do? Many people aren't used to cooking from scratch. Getting goats milk and making their own formula? Making their own pet foods? Kinda intimidating for many and that feeling was reinforced during the pet food recall with the "experts" telling us we're not capable long term  Roll Eyes

I do think awareness is growing though. And kitchen skills  Wink Cooking, eating local/sustainable/organic are growing in popularity. My CSA sold out early this year and that was including a new location. Part of that is from just the growing awareness of sustainable living and also nutritional awareness. But I'm sure all the toxic food has added to it. But many people still don't read the labels on everything, so their awareness as to what's good and bad isn't complete. Milk with added hormones got a lot of press, but how much press does Krafts fake cheese slices get? Most people aren't grabbing those cheese slices thinking they need to read the label. It's cheese for god's sake! The big tomato screw up prob also helped to raise some awareness as far as fresh food goes. Kinda helped that they weren't sure what was making people sick as it kept it in the news longer and showed what a mess everything is, lol!~ Oh, the irony.
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« Reply #1340 on: November 14, 2008, 11:55:09 AM »

Carolo and everyone, I couldn't agree with you more that some continue to misassess the danger of melamine contamination.

Here's a repeat, though, of what Carolo posted from the Washington Post, along with three other articles from November  13, 2008.
For giving it that much coverage, I do really thank the "Watergate" Washington Post. At least they're covering it, and not all agreeing
with the author of the blog Carolo posted:

Thank you, Washington Post!:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/13/AR2008111301918.html
Health Highlights: Nov. 13, 2008
Thursday, November 13, 2008; 12:00 AM
Here are some of the latest health and medical news developments, compiled by editors of HealthDay:
U.S. to Detain Milk Products From China


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/13/AR2008111301791.html
Lawyers plan collective lawsuit over tainted milk
By GILLIAN WONG
The Associated Press
Thursday, November 13, 2008; 12:27 PM


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/13/AR2008111303077.html
U.S. bans melamine-tainted Chinese dairy products
Reuters
Thursday, November 13, 2008; 5:48 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States issued an import alert for Chinese-made food products on Thursday,
calling for foods to be stopped at the border unless importers can certify they are either free of dairy or free of melamine.


(Posted by Carolo, page 89)
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thecheckout/
Posted at 02:22 PM ET, 11/13/2008
All Chinese Food Imports Containing Dairy Held Up at U.S. Border
The Food and Drug Administration has begun stopping imports of Chinese dairy and dairy-based products from
entering the country in an effort to keep out food contaminated with the industrial chemical melamine.
[Read the comments here on banning all food products from China]



This story has even made it's way to USC's China Institute:

http://uschina.usc.edu/(A(6jWlD4x8yQEkAAAAZmJiZGJmYTEtZGYzNS00ZjhhLTg3YTUtNzk2MWEwMDExNTUz4YQvtmWFh2v4A4mFbOJDr-2tDuM1)S(x4eqoqeuqldhsn553ycs5n55))/DailyUpdates.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1



http://www.timesonline.co.uk:80/tol/news/world/asia/article5152668.ece

From Times OnlineNovember 14, 2008
US places ban on Chinese food imports
... Such a broad ban by the Food and Drug administration on goods from an entire country rather than from a new rogue manufacturer is unusual and reflects the level of concern
over how widespread the problem is in China.

Importers to the United States must now certify that food products are free of dairy or of the industrial chemical melamine that has been found in a vast array of Chinese products
– from baby powder to milk powder to creamy confectionery. Failing that, the goods will be stopped at the border.

The FDA order said: “The problem of melamine contamination is not limited to infant formula products. Chinese government sources indicate contamination of milk components,
especially dried milk powder, which are used in a variety of finished foods.” These are believed to spread throughout the food chain in China.
...


http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/melamltr.html
From October 10, 2008, FDA to "Dear Colleague" Letter to the United States Food Manufacturing Industry, Regarding Melamine
"Milk and milk products that could originate from China include condensed, dried, and non-fat milk, condensed and dried whey,
lactose powder, permeate powder, demineralized and partially demineralized whey powders, caseins, yogurt, ice cream, cheese,
whey protein concentrate, and milk protein concentrate."


This US consumer is counting on the FDA to enforce this ban with regard to whey protein concentrates and milk protein concentrates. I hope this trust is not misplaced yet again ...

Our consumer list of suspect label ingredients, culled from news reports all over the world since September 11, 2008, is considerably longer.
Please, FDA, review it and add to your suspect list:
http://itchmoforums.com/recall-nonpet-food/melamine-suspected-chinese-officials-say-baby-formula-tied-to-kidney-stones-t6256.0.html;msg95656;topicseen#msg95656
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« Reply #1341 on: November 14, 2008, 12:43:12 PM »

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The United States issued an import alert for Chinese-made food products on Thursday,
calling for foods to be stopped at the border unless importers can certify they are either free of dairy or free of melamine.

This falls so short. What about products coming out of other countries containing Chinese ingredients? Are they looking at ingredient track backs to prove items are China free? And if this ban was from testing and finding positive results, where are the recalls for items already on shelves and in homes? Is this "alert" just a way of sweeping the bigger issue under the rug? Kraft is still saying they get their poo poo from NZ . . . .
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« Reply #1342 on: November 14, 2008, 02:12:25 PM »

I have a feeling, straybaby, the problem may take care of itself. I think the world has about had it with
trying to deal with China's internal food problems, problems which China itself apparently can't deal with:

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/241614,vietnam-finds-three-more-melamine-tainted-milk-products.html

Hanoi - Vietnamese health authorities have found the industrial chemical melamine in three brands of powdered milk imported from Australia, health officials said Friday. Nguyen Thi Khanh Tram, deputy director of Vietnam's Food Safety and Hygiene Department, said the new discoveries brought the number of melamine-tainted products found in Vietnam to 32.
The three types of powdered milk were listed as Golden Food toddler formula, Happy IQ, and a generic Australian brand.
...Tram said the actual number of melamine-tainted products purchased for import into Vietnam was higher than 32, as some shipments had been tested at customs and sent back without entering the country. The country has 29 testing centers working on the melamine problem.
"We don't know when it will stop," Tram said



http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/389818/1/.html

China milk inspectors beaten over tough checks
Posted: 14 November 2008 1457 hrs
BEIJING: Two milk inspectors for a major China dairy firm were severely beaten in an attack blamed on suppliers angry at tough new safety checks following a tainted milk scandal, state media said Friday.
The two men were working in the northern city of Tangshan as inspectors for Mengniu, one of China's largest dairy companies, which has implemented strict new safety inspections, the China Youth Daily reported.
The attack occurred November 5 after inspector Li Zhongping had confronted an outside dairy supplier over a batch of milk he was selling that appeared not to confirm with new standards, it said.
"According to an initial analysis, this incident was triggered by (Li's) decision that this truck's milk was not in compliance," it quoted an unnamed Mengniu official as saying.
Li and another inspector, Zhang Liwei, were set on by a group of about five club-wielding men as they left work later that day.
Li was badly beaten, suffering numerous injuries over his body, including fractured vertebra, and was in a coma for "a long time", the paper said, without specifying Li's current condition.



http://www.ippmedia.com/ipp/guardian/2008/11/14/126348.html
Chinese milk sold in Tanzania poisonous
 2008-11-14 11:47:47 By Lydia Shekighenda
The Tanzania Food and Drug Authority (TFDA) has embarked on a process of screening all imported milk powder and other dairy products so as gauge the magnitude of the problem of products tainted with Melamine.
The decision came after an investigation conducted recently, whose results were officially made public yesterday, showed that some samples of Chinese milk impounded in Tanzania after the outbreak and sent abroad for tests had been found to contain a highly poisonous melamine chemical.
``We are going to screen all diary products irrespective of where they come from, so that we can be sure with the safety of the products,`` said TFDA Acting Director General Charys Ugullum when she addressed journalists in Dar es Salaam yesterday.
``In other countries, melamine had been found in products like chocolate and mixed coffee. It is high time we carried out the screening of other dairy products to detect melamine,`` Ullugum said. ...
Ullugum identified the milk brand which was found to be tainted with 7.1mg/kg melamine as Golden Bell Full Creamed Milk
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« Reply #1343 on: November 14, 2008, 02:36:31 PM »

Cwrap, Nancy Nord appears again:

http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=17811&SectionID=23
U.S., China, EU Product Safety Meeting Set in Brussels Monday
Recent spate of unsafe Chinese goods spurs talks.
By . Agence France-Presse   
Nov. 14, 2008 -- 
U.S., EU and Chinese officials will on Monday hold landmark talks on consumer product safety, following a string of problems involving the burgeoning imports from China. "Every week there are alerts which remind us that we must never allow safety issues to slip from the very top of the political agenda," EU Consumer Commissioner Meglena Kuneva said in a statement. It will be the first such high-level meeting between the three trade powers on the issue of product safety with Kuneva hosting Wei Chuanzhong, vice-minister in China's quality supervision and inspection administration (AQSIQ) and Chairman of the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission Nancy Nord. In September, Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao vowed to ensure the "Made in China" brand was safe for consumers at home and abroad, as Beijing scrambled to restore confidence amid a toxic milk scandal. Last year the focus for concern over unsafe Chinese goods focused on the toy sector. Tens of millions of Chinese-made toys were recalled amid concern they could be dangerous, in what became a new flashpoint in trade relations between the Asian economic giant and Europe and the United States. Everything from pet food to pharmaceuticals have also sparked safety fears in the recent past. Copyright Agence France-Presse
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« Reply #1344 on: November 14, 2008, 06:23:12 PM »

http://www.pacificmagazine.net/news/2008/11/15/guam-customs-seizes-hong-kong-food-shipment
Guam Customs Seizes Hong Kong Food Shipment
Saturday: November 15, 2008
(Pacific Daily News)
Guam Customs and Quarantine Agency officials have seized a shipment of food products from Hong Kong suspected of containing melamine, the Pacific Daily News reports.



http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/united-states/fda-chinese-milk-product-melamine-contamination-7105.html
Melamine contamination found in many products
By Genevieve Long and Mimi Li
Epoch Times Staff Nov 13, 2008
'Step in the right direction'
“It’s a step in the right direction, but it took them two months to get to this point,” said Tony Corbo, a lobbyist with Food and Water Watch, a national consumer advocacy organization based in Washington, D.C.

Corbo says that the range of products found contaminated with melamine is also a concern.

“It seems that this whole thing is systemic, with the spiking of different food products [with melamine],” says Corbo. Melamine is added to milk or milk-derived products to make the protein level appear higher.

Corbo notes that he hopes the FDA will also start to look at other products from China, notably egg-derivatives. Recently cases of melamine-contaminated eggs and fish feed imported from China have been found in Hong Kong.

We’ll see how long it takes them [the FDA] to deal with eggs or anything with egg products from China,” says Corbo.



Now that the FDA has started down this road and recognized the problem, let's hope it has the guts to drive the point home:
the US is fed up and so are consumers everywhere, even in a tiny place like Guam, with no testing equipment ...

no one wants to be poisoned by Chinese food imports
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http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-11/15/content_7207889.htm

US seizes Chinese dairy food(China Daily)
Updated: 2008-11-15 10:02
Neither the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine nor the Ministry of Commerce had any comment yesterday on the FDA announcement. ...

Chinese exporters said the latest move by the FDA came as no surprise.

Tong Xun, a senior manager with the Zhangjiagang-based Liangfeng Food Co, said on Friday: "Compared to other countries that banned China's dairy products completely, US authorities seem to be more understanding of China's situation."


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China's out of excuses. There is no "dilution factor" big enough to be safe. The US consumer is past fed up.
US authorities need to get their priorities straight.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/6114367.html

Deaths in China milk scandal go uncounted
By CHARLES HUTZLER Associated Press Writer © 2008 The Associated Press
Nov. 15, 2008, 12:18PM


I do not wish to understand this country; I already know I don't. I have no value system in common with
at least the communist party government.
I want the US to protect my children and grandchildren.


Deaths in China milk scandal go uncounted
By CHARLES HUTZLER Associated Press Writer © 2008 The Associated Press
Nov. 15, 2008, 12:18PMShare  Print Email Del.icio.usDiggTechnoratiYahoo! BuzzLITI VILLAGE, China — Li Xiaokai died of kidney failure on the old wooden bed in the family farmhouse, just before dawn on a drizzly Sept. 10.

Her grandmother wrapped the 9-month-old in a wool blanket. Her father handed the body to village men for burial by a muddy creek. The doctors and family never knew why she got sick. A day later, state media reported that the type of infant formula she drank had been adulterated with an industrial chemical.

Yet the deaths of Xiaokai and at least four other babies are not included in China's official death toll from its worst food safety scare in years. The Health Ministry's count stands at only three deaths.

The stories of these uncounted babies suggest that China's tainted milk scandal has exacted a higher human toll than the government has so far acknowledged. Without an official verdict on the deaths, families worry they will be unable to bring lawsuits and refused compensation.

So far, nobody is suggesting large numbers of deaths are being concealed. But so many months passed before the scandal was exposed that it's likely more babies fell sick or died than official figures reflect.

Beijing's apparent reluctance to admit a higher toll is reinforcing perceptions that the authoritarian government cares more about tamping down criticism than helping families. Lawyers, doctors and reporters have said privately that authorities pressured them to not play up the human cost or efforts to get compensation from the government or Sanlu, the formula maker.

"It's hard to say how the government will handle this matter," said Zhang Xinkui, a Beijing-based lawyer amassing evidence of the contamination for a possible lawsuit. "There may be many children who perhaps died from drinking Sanlu powdered milk or perhaps from a different cause. But there's no system in place to find out."

In the weeks since Xiaokai's death, her father and his older brother have talked to lawyers and beseeched health officials, with no result.

"My heart is in pain," said her father, Li Xiaoquan, a short, taciturn farmer with hooded eyes. From a corner of his farmhouse courtyard in central China's wheat and corn flatlands, he pulls a worn green box that once held apples and is now stuffed with empty pink wrappers of the Sanlu Infant Formula Milk Powder that Xiaokai nursed on. "We think someone, the company, should compensate us."

In coal-mining country 450 miles to the northwest, Tian Xiaowei waits for his wife to leave the newly built house before removing five small photos of a wide-eyed baby boy from a brown plastic document folder. "She breaks down when she sees them," Tian said. The photos are the only mementos left of year-old Tian Jin, who died in August.

"I want these people who poisoned the milk powder to receive the severest punishment under law. I want an explanation and I want consolation for my dead child," said Tian, a broad-shouldered apple farmer and part-time truck driver. "I feel like we could die from regret. If we knew that it was contaminated, we would never have fed him that."

Since September, when the scandal was first reported, Beijing has said that Shijiazhuang Sanlu Group Co., the dairy, knew as early as last year that its products were tainted with melamine and that company and local officials first tried to cover it up.

The government has promised free medical treatment to the 50,000 children sickened, and unspecified compensation to them and families of the dead. The Health Ministry, which is coordinating the government's response, declined to answer questions about the compensation plan and whether it was investigating deaths and illnesses not yet counted by the government.

Melamine, a chemical used as a flame retardant and binding agent to make cooking utensils and industrial coatings, is rich in nitrogen. As such, it makes an attractive low-cost additive to milk and other foods; nitrogen registers as protein on many routine tests.

Though melamine is not believed harmful in tiny amounts, higher concentrations produce kidney stones, which can block the ducts that carry urine from the body, and in serious cases can cause kidney failure.

All eight babies who died were diagnosed with kidney failure, according to the families, medical records or state media accounts. All also supposedly drank Sanlu infant formula or powdered milk.

The fathers of Li Xiaokai and Tian Jin both wave inch-thick sheaves of medical reports and tests from their children's stays in hospitals. Xiaokai, a twin older than her sister Xiaoyan by three minutes, was fed with Sanlu formula while the younger girl nursed on breast milk because their mother did not have enough for both, family members said.

An ultrasound examination of Xiaokai's kidneys at the Zhengzhou Children's Hospital on Aug. 21 found a stone in each kidney that was about the size of a small marble and 2 1/2 times larger than what doctors consider a critical threshold.

Tian Xiaowei, the apple farmer, sent bags of Sanlu infant formula to a government laboratory in September. The Xi'an Product Quality Supervision Institute's report, dated Oct. 8, found melamine levels of 1,748 milligrams per kilogram, more than 800 times the government-set limit.

Then there's Wang Siyu, the daughter of an accountant and proprietor of an Internet cafe in the central city of Shangqiu. Siyu was fed Sanlu products from birth and developed recurring kidney problems in May last year, at age 3, said her mother, Li Songmei.

Twice hospitalized, she was taken off Sanlu milk and started to recover, only to fall ill again when the family began to give her Sanlu products, Li said. Sick for a third time and swollen, she died of kidney failure at the Zhengzhou Children's Hospital on May 2, said Li.

"Ever since she was born, she had been using Sanlu milk. Only when she felt sick and couldn't eat did she stop taking Sanlu," said Li.

Others among the five include an infant in far western Xinjiang province, whose story was posted on the provincial government Web site, and a 6-month-old boy in southeastern Jiangxi province, reported by the New Legal Daily. A reporter who worked on the article and would give only his surname, Liu, said the newspaper was careful not to blame Cai Cong's death on Sanlu formula because "the local government has not yet reached a verdict."

Medical experts say kidney stones in infants are rare. Doctors in several parts of China first noticed a rise in cases in the past two years. Pediatric urologist Feng Dongchuan tried to sound an alarm, posting an item on his blog in July about a spike in cases at his hospital in the central city of Xuzhou and in nearby Nanjing city. Feng pinpointed infant formula as the likely cause.

Feng at first refused requests for interviews, then responded in a terse e-mail: "The chance for infants or small children to come down with kidney stones is very small, and having stones that obstruct both kidneys is even more rare."

Like the others, the Li family grew distressed when Xiaokai started to become fussy in July. With their two-acre farm in Liti Village, her parents never had much money and already had a child, a son. But they wanted a larger family, bucking the one-child family planning limits. Xiaokai was "the more active" of the twins, said her 70-year-old grandmother, Li Xuan.

By August, Xiaokai was running a high fever, unabated by ever higher doses of medicine. Alarmed after she stopped eating and urinating, the family took her to the nearby Runnan county hospital on Aug. 18. The doctors diagnosed kidney failure and rushed her overnight by ambulance to Zhengzhou Children's Hospital, three hours away and the best in Henan province.

"They knew right away," said the father, Li. Xiaokai was run through tests and put on intravenous solutions to try to shrink the kidney stones. Unable to stay with her or afford a hotel, Li and his mother slept on the pavement outside the hospital. After five days, the hospital said it could do no more.

"The doctors wouldn't operate because they said 'she's too small,'" said Li. They suggested taking Xiaokai to Beijing or Shanghai. Hospital officials declined comment and refused to make Xiaokai's doctor available.

The hospital stay in Zhengzhou cost 7,331 yuan, or $1,070 — about a year's cash income for the family — and they had already borrowed money to pay for Xiaokai's care.

So Li brought Xiaokai home to die. They took her to a traditional medicine doctor in the village, who gave her an herbal medicine and confirmed the grim prognosis. "The old doctor told us 'the child will die in 10 to 18 days,'" Li said.

Early on Sept. 10 while it was still dark, the grandmother called Li into the side room where she and Xiaokai slept. "Her stomach was puffy" — a sign of kidney failure — "and she wasn't breathing," he said.

In many parts of north China, the death of a child is considered a misfortune that can bring bad luck on a family and is best suppressed. Accordingly, Li Haiqin, a cousin, and three other men took Xiaokai to a creek on the far side of the village fields. They put a brick in the blanket with the body and placed it in a shallow hole under a path between rows of poplar trees. Then they walked back in silence beneath a gray dawn and a light rain. No close family members were there and none was told where the grave is.

Xiaokai's family says Beijing had waived regular inspections of Sanlu because its quality controls were said to be excellent. "The government should shoulder its responsibility. This was a national brand, inspection-exempt products," said Xiaokai's uncle, Li Shenyi.

Since the death, Li Shenyi approached the Runnan county Health Bureau to classify Xiaokai's death as caused by tainted formula. "They said the upper levels (of government) were working on it," he said.

The county health bureau referred calls to its supervisors in Zhumadian city, who said ultimately it was up to Beijing.

"Right now, the Health Ministry has no clear explanation on how the victim's families should be compensated," said a Ms. Shang at the Zhumadian Health Bureau's medical affairs office. "Nobody knows."
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« Reply #1347 on: November 15, 2008, 11:19:46 AM »

I don't understand our country, either.  Why has it taken them so much longer to act than other countries?  Halloween sales vs. the Olympics?  Time to eat, sell, clear the shelves of inventory?  Evidence?  Now candy is going to be inspected, and cocoa, and breakfast cereal, etc, etc.  Surely they understood the risk if others did. What are this country's motives? 

Why did it take until November 12?  The Chinese admitted a problem way before then.  The US government knows what food we import from where.  The US government has the ability to test for melamine and its analogs.  The US government has had experience with this exact type of contamination before regarding animal feed and pet food.  Now it is people food as well.  Not completely unexpected by many aware of the situation before.  Why did it take this long?  Why wasn't this risk being continually monitored by FDA, considering the past?  Why did they ignore the threat to our food supply and health when most of the world was taking defensive steps to protect their people?  Why, when the US government  certainly did and does know our imports must be at risk for melamine contamination just like all the others.  How can that be justified or even defended?  Surely they could have had the "evidence" they say they required very easily and before now.

Our numbers go uncounted and unknown as well.  Who knows who has been injured?  Who really knows?

How long has the US been importing contaminated milk powder or finished products without any inspection?  How much has the average person eaten at what level of contamination?  Where are the statistics of what FDA has found? 

What else are we importing that may be contaminated with who-knows-what?

No one really knows.
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« Reply #1348 on: November 15, 2008, 11:44:43 AM »

from another thread by Offy:

http://www.fda.gov/ora/fiars/ora_import_ia9930.html

GUIDANCE:      Districts may detain without physical examination all milk
               products, all milk derived ingredients, and finished food
               products containing milk from China.
=========================================

Is that may or must?  I hope that is just fancy legal jargon for "must."  Is this voluntary or mandatory?

and more:

In order to secure release of an individual shipment
               detained pursuant to this Import Alert, the importer should provide either:
===================================
Should or must?
 

And finally:
2.   Documentation supplied in English which shows there
                    are no milk or milk-derived ingredients in the
                    product, to include product formulation and product
                    labeling (for example; process or batch records from
                    the manufacturer, and the actual product labeling or a
                    facsimile of the product labeling
).

======================
Shouldn't that documentation by verified for integrity?  Look how many recalls we have for accidental unlabelled milk ingredients.  Hello.  We are dealing with some real manufacturing integrity issues here.  Is a document really good enough anymore?  Worth any more than the paper it is written on?  Is milk the only ingredient of concern, even?

Are these safeguards stringent enough?  Or do we need physical evidence at this point in the game?

More from the FDA Detain Notice:

 a firm, shipper or importer wishes to request removal
               from detention without physical examination, they should
               forward information supporting their request to FDA at the
               following address:

               Food and Drug Administration
               Division of Import Operations and Policy (HFC-170)
               5600 Fishers Lane, Room 12-36
               Rockville, MD 20857

               The request should include information for FDA to adequately
               assess whether a manufacturer has appropriate controls and
               processes, including:

               1.   Documentation showing a minimum of five (5)
                    consecutive non-violative shipments have been released
                    by FDA based upon results of third party laboratory
                    analyses, using methods found acceptable to FDA of a
                    representative sample of the lot, that verify the
                    products do not contain melamine or cyanuric acid. (to me, this only speaks to the safety of those 5 shipments.   Things can change any time.)

                                   AND

               2.   Documentation from a third-party, in whom FDA has
                    sufficient confidence, which demonstrates controls are
                    in place such that products will not be contaminated
                    with melamine and melamine analogs.  To gain
                    sufficient confidence in a third party, FDA may
                    determine it needs to conduct a paper or on-site
                    review of the work of the third party. (where is this third party facility, how thorough is any paper review?)

                                   AND

               3.   Documentation that the firm is in compliance with all
                    Chinese government requirements
for exporting the
                    products to the U.S. Documentation should include
                    copies of any registration that may be required by the
                    Chinese government. 

               All requests for removal from detention without physical
               examination will be referred by DIOP to CFSAN (HFS-606) or
               CVM (HFV-232) for evaluation.



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http://www.bakingbusiness.com/news/headline_stories.asp?ArticleID=98012

(Bakingbusiness.com, November 13, 2008)

"F.D.A. analyses have detected melamine and cyanuric acid in a number of products that contain milk or milk-derived ingredients, including candy and beverages," said the agency. "In addition, information received from government sources in a number of countries indicate a wide range and variety of products from a variety of manufacturers have been manufactured using melamine-contaminated milk or milk-derived ingredients …"

Foods that will be most affected include bakery products, snacks, beverages and chocolates, according to the agency.


Representative Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut took the F.D.A. to task for its delayed response to the problem.

"Clearly, the problems involving melamine in China are significantly deeper than F.D.A. would have us believe," Ms. DeLauro said.

"The F.D.A. should have acted sooner to ban these milk products from entering the country. It is disappointing that the ban did not apply to egg and fish products given that animal feed has been found to be contaminated with melamine."
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At least one government official gets it.

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