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« Reply #1080 on: October 19, 2008, 06:49:05 PM »

3cat...........ug/g stands for microgram/gram
Will see if my brain will allow me to do the conversion math to ppm Undecided
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« Reply #1081 on: October 19, 2008, 06:55:36 PM »

ah ha for aqueous solutions a true measure
so.......

0.25 ug/g  is   0.25ppm
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« Reply #1082 on: October 19, 2008, 07:02:50 PM »

So 10 times lower in strength than 2.5 ppm for most foods? Still not zero tolerance,
but an improvement on the down side.
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« Reply #1083 on: October 19, 2008, 07:04:06 PM »

So it seems

Still should be 0 ppm in my assessment   Angry
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« Reply #1084 on: October 19, 2008, 07:45:10 PM »

Not sure any more if this is posted or not. So to be safe, here's official FDA recall notice  ...

http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/lotte10_08.html

Lotte USA, Inc. Initiates Nationwide Recall of Koala's March Crème filled Cookies
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- October 17, 2008 -- Lotte USA, Inc., Battle Creek, MI initiated a recall of all Koalas' March Cookies on September 29, 2008 because they were produced in China and they may be contaminated with melamine. The products are packaged in a plastic overwrap and the recall includes the following products:

Koala’s March cookies, chocolate, strawberry, or white chocolate, distribution nationwide.
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« Reply #1085 on: October 19, 2008, 10:12:43 PM »

Not sure any more if this is posted or not. So to be safe, here's official FDA recall notice  ...

http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/lotte10_08.html

Lotte USA, Inc. Initiates Nationwide Recall of Koala's March Crème filled Cookies
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- October 17, 2008 -- Lotte USA, Inc., Battle Creek, MI initiated a recall of all Koalas' March Cookies on September 29, 2008 because they were produced in China and they may be contaminated with melamine. The products are packaged in a plastic overwrap and the recall includes the following products:

Koala’s March cookies, chocolate, strawberry, or white chocolate, distribution nationwide.


This is new to me.

http://www.careersinfood.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/ShowResourcesLinkDetails/ResourceLinkID/2543/Lotte_USA__Inc..htm
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http://www.lotteusainc.com/
Company Information:
Lotte USA, Inc., headquartered in Battle Creek, Michigan is a wholly owned subsidiary of Lotte Co., Ltd. Of Japan. Established in September of 1978, Lotte USA, Inc. manufactures chewing gum, candy, and cookies. Lotte USA, Inc. cooperates with US based companies to produce private label and/or licensed related gum products while maintaining a vigorous export business of gum base to our parent and affiliate companies.


http://www.macraesbluebook.com/search/company.cfm?company=465604
Business Activity: Exporter / Importer


Products Description:
Manufactures chewing gum; manufactures cookies; manufactures candy & other confectionery products Confectionary products, Chocolate or chocolate substitute candy, Sugar or sugar substitute candy, Chewing gum, Fresh cakes or pies or pastries, Frozen cakes or pies or pastries, Frozen pastry dough, Frozen savory biscuit dough, Baking mixes and supplies, Bread and biscuits and cookies




So I wonder how big this really is.  Is the FDA only telling us about the products tainted beyond the 2.5 parts per million?

Interesting it is a Japanese-owned company.  The rice crackers I'm wondering about had a Japanese trading company name on the back, which made my husband feel 'safe.'  Then the fine print on the back was 'product of Thailand.'  Then I found that the biggest rice cracker company in Thailand was having rice crackers made in China and had to recall them due to melamine contamination.

This is like auto title washing or money laundering.  Isn't the global village wonderful?

   

And I ate most of those crackers.  Tongue  And I was having uncharacteristic aching in my lower legs and ankles and one ankle was noticably puffy.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Nephrology-975/2008/6/Swollen-Foot-Pain.htm

I didn't have the kidney pain, though.  But since I stopped eating the rice crackers - the pain and swelling went away.  Related?  I should not have to wonder.
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« Reply #1086 on: October 20, 2008, 01:11:09 AM »

3cats that was pretty snarky post kiddo  Grin Grin Grin

But at least will get people to thinking that this cwap is everywhere - even in personal items. Wink
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« Reply #1087 on: October 20, 2008, 03:52:18 AM »

 Shocked Grin Shocked Grin Shocked Grin

melachocolate ~ it's EVERYWHERE
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« Reply #1088 on: October 20, 2008, 04:57:52 AM »

I don't know if this has been posted already, but it looks like melamine is back in the animal feed in China.  Let me know or feel free to cross-post if this should also be in the pet food recall area.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/1500-dogs-die-from-tainted-feed-in-china-967283.html

1,500 dogs die from tainted feed in China
 
Some 1,500 dogs in northeast China have died after eating animal feed tainted with the same chemical that contaminated dairy products and sickened tens of thousands of babies nationwide, a veterinarian said today.
The raccoon dogs — a breed native to east Asia that is raised for its fur — were fed a product that contained the chemical melamine and developed kidney stones, said Zhang Wenkui, a veterinary professor at Shenyang Agriculture University. All of the dogs died on farms in just one village.
Zhang determined that the animals died of kidney failure after performing a necropsy — an animal autopsy — on about a dozen dogs. He declined to say when the deaths occurred but a today's report in the Southern Metropolis Daily newspaper said they had occurred over the past two months.
"First, we found melamine in the dogs' feed, and second, I found that 25 percent of the stones in the dogs' kidneys were made up of melamine," Zhang told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.
The Southern Metropolis Daily also blamed the deaths of several hundred dogs on melamine, but it was not immediately clear how the chemical would have entered the raccoon dog feed. In the ongoing milk scandal, melamine was said to be added to watered-down milk to artificially boost nitrogen levels, making products seem higher in protein when tested.
Raccoon dogs take their name from their fur, which resembles that of raccoons, and is used to make clothing, especially coats.
The animal deaths raise questions about the extent of the chemical's presence in the country's food chain.
Melamine has been found in a wide range of Chinese-made dairy products and foods with milk ingredients over the past few months. The government is still trying to win back consumer confidence after those tainted products turned up on store shelves around the world.
Four Chinese babies' deaths have been blamed on infant formula that was laced with melamine. Some 54,000 other children were sickened.
Last year, melamine-tainted wheat gluten, a pet food ingredient made in China, was blamed for the deaths of dozens of dogs and cats in North America.
When ingested by humans, the industrial chemical — used in plastics and fertilizers — can cause kidney stones as the body tries to eliminate it and, in extreme cases, can lead to kidney failure. Infants are particularly susceptible.
Zhang said the company that produces the animal feed is in talks with breeders in Xishan, the village in Liaoning province where the dogs died, about providing compensation and has pressured them not to talk to the media.
Zhang did not give the company's name but the newspaper report said the feed was produced by Harbin Hualong Feed Co. The company refused to comment, saying officials were unavailable because they were in a meeting.
An official surnamed Liu at the Liaoning provincial animal feed and medicine inspection center said the facility tested one sample of animal feed from Xishan and found that it contained about 500 parts per million of melamine. China's Health Ministry recently capped the amount of melamine permissible in milk, milk powder and food products that contain more than 15 percent dairy to 2.5 parts per million.
He said that the center was assisting the Ministry of Agriculture in a nationwide inspection of animal feed for similar contamination but would not give any other details.
The ministry did not respond to a list of faxed questions. Telephone calls to the agricultural department of the Ciyutuo county government, which oversees Xishan, rang unanswered.
China's products have been under intense scrutiny after high levels of industrial toxins were found last year in exports ranging from toothpaste to toys.
The milk scandal has resulted in recalls and the blocking of Chinese imports in numerous countries.
Also today, Australia said it had ordered a recall of a milk drink and cake brand after tests showed they were contaminated with melamine.
Lydia Buchtmann, a spokeswoman for Food Standards Australia New Zealand, said Orion brand Tiramisu Italian Cake with Cheese Cream and Dali Yuan brand First Milk vanilla-flavored drink have been taken off store shelves.

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« Reply #1089 on: October 20, 2008, 05:03:41 AM »

I was looking for the link to post about melamine in the chicken feed I read ?friday and found this...maybe we knew this but I either didn't or forgot... Shocked

http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=766082

Separately, the Japanese health ministry said that melamine was detected in frozen fried chicken imported from China.


So my question is what is the level detected.....
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« Reply #1090 on: October 20, 2008, 07:17:38 AM »

This also makes Me wonder about chemicals

http://qunligelatin.en.alibaba.com

Qunli Gelatin Chemical Co., Ltd. 

 
 
 1 2 3 OfflineHangzhou Qunli Gelatin Chemical Co., Ltd. is a professional manufacturer and exporter who is engaged in producing and distributing gelatin, bone glue, calcium propionate, soft/hard capsules, hydrolyzed animal protein, food/feed additives and chemical products.

Qunli Gelatin has over 30 years working experiences in this industry. Our company depends on science and technology for our continued success and is backed by professional technicians and expert quality control and testing personnel. We also have one ISO9001 certified overseas branch office that supplies foodstuffs, feed, resin products, printed and dyed products. Due to our quality products and knowledgeable staff, we have been able to maintain long-term business relations with clients in Canada, the USA, France, Japan, Mexico, and Turkey.

We enjoy an upstanding reputation amongst our domestic and overseas clients, and are looking forward to building more successful partnerships with companies worldwide. If you are interested in any of our product range, please contact us directly with your inquiries.
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« Reply #1091 on: October 20, 2008, 07:21:02 AM »

3Cats, I think this is the link You were looking for.

http://indiac.blogspot.com/2008/10/more-melamine-from-china.html
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« Reply #1092 on: October 20, 2008, 07:24:22 AM »

Poco, we have eaten that stuff in the past too.  My daughter is a Japanophile, and loves the rice crackers in particular.  Yikes!
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« Reply #1093 on: October 20, 2008, 07:34:44 AM »



Bone Glue
this looks gross, and I wonder who's food it goes to?
http://www.alibaba.com:80/product-gs/50244465/Bone_Glue.html

 Buy > Chemicals > Other Chemical Auxiliaries > Bone Glue
Bone Glue See larger image: Bone GluePlace of origin: China
Model No: Bone glue in pear
Payment Terms: T/T, L/C
Minimum Order Quantity: 1,000kg
Delivery Time: 10 days
Brand Name: Qunli


 
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Bone glue index:
1) Strength (moisture 12%, commercial glue 6.67%): bloomg ? 160
2) Viscosity (moisture 12%, commercial glue 6.67%): mPas ?4.5
3) Engler viscosity (moisture 12%, commercial glue 15%): E ? 3.4
4) Moisture: ? 16
5) Ash (%): ?3
6) Water insoluble matter (%): ?0.5
7) pH: 5.5-7.0

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« Reply #1094 on: October 20, 2008, 07:40:46 AM »

Carol, As far as the frozen fried chicken from China-
where does McDonalds and KFC get their chicken? I really would like to know, please?
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