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« Reply #900 on: October 10, 2008, 08:38:17 AM »

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinajournal/2008/10/09/for-melamine-cases-whats-in-a-number/?mod=googlenews_wsj
October 9, 2008, 7:06 am
For Melamine Cases, What’s In a Number?
Earlier this week we noted the odd evasiveness of Chinese health authorities at providing an update on the number of children who have been sickened by drinking melamine-tainted milk products. They have new information, they say, but won’t release it publicly. So the media is still parroting a figure of close to 54,500 that dates from Sept. 21.

The current reticence stands in marked contrast from the aftermath of the Sichuan earthquake earlier this year, when the public was provided with regular updates on the number of dead, missing, injured, and even how many buildings had been destroyed. ...
The New York Times has taken to compiling its own data from provincial government Web sites and local media reports. From a review of news and statistics collected from 8 of China’s 30-plus provinces and administrative regions, it found that around 52,000 people had fallen ill from tainted milk. So it seems fair to say that total number of ill across China is likely to be significantly higher than 54,500.
Today, health officials offered a partial update– they tripled the number of hospitalizations resulting from tainted milk (not all sick children required hospital stays). According to the latest figures, reported by the AFP, 46,810 children have been admitted to hospitals for melamine-related illnesses, up from 14,471 on Sept. 21. Most of the hospitalized children have been released, the report said, leaving 10,666 inpatients.
–Sky Canaves

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/world/asia/09milk.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Milk Scandal Pushes China to Set Limits on Melamine
By EDWARD WONG
Published: October 8, 2008
A check by The New York Times of statistics on the Web sites or official news media outlets of 8 of China’s more than 30 provinces and province-level administrative areas shows that in those 8 territories, about 52,000 people have fallen ill from tainted milk. Some of the numbers were published this month and others in September. Extrapolating from those statistics, the number sickened across all of China would be much higher than the 53,000 announced by the Health Ministry in late September.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jkSxq2ah-NStZl0m7ZjdQmjJZGGw
China more than triples number of children hospitalised over milk
1 day ago
BEIJING (AFP) — China published Thursday a new number of children hospitalised after drinking tainted milk, more than tripling the official figure to nearly 47,000.
At the moment, 10,666 children remain in hospital for poisoning with the toxic chemical melamine, while another 36,144 were previously hospitalised but have since been allowed to go home, the health ministry said.
This makes for a total of 46,810 children who have been hospitalised for kidney problems caused by melamine, up from 14,471 according to the previous data from the health ministry on September 21.In addition to the children hospitalised, thousands of others have received outpatient care.

However, a health ministry spokeswoman told AFP on Thursday she did not have updated figures for the number of outpatients.
According to the September 21 data, there were 39,965 outpatients. When added to the number who had been hospitalised, the total figure for sickened children late last month reached 54,436.
Health ministry officials said this week they had updated figures for the total number of children affected by drinking tainted milk powder, but they refused to make the figure public.


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« Reply #901 on: October 10, 2008, 08:59:35 AM »

http://www.canada.com:80/topics/news/world/story.html?id=59f79ae6-e975-4c85-8455-f5038c80306b
China announces biggest bust yet in melamine-milk scandal
AFP
Published: Friday, October 10, 2008
BEIJING - Chinese authorities have arrested a man who made 600 tonnes of melamine-laced powder that was destined for the nation's milk supply, in the biggest bust of its kind, state press reported on Friday. ...
The farmer, Zhang Yujun, had produced the 600 tonnes of protein powder in eastern China's Shandong province between September last year and August, Xinhua reported.

Identifying an adulteration time period going back to September 2007, at least.


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« Reply #902 on: October 10, 2008, 09:41:30 AM »

Quote from: Offy on October 10, 2008, 06:49:41 AM

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"The ministry's food quality and safety division director Noraini Mohd Othman in a statement Thursday said the product contained above the 75 ppm (parts per million) level of melamine that is permitted

75ppm???
Wow.
Is that an error in the article?

Gawd surely hope that is a typo. People will drop like flies with 75 ppm. Their kidneys will be destroyed. Anyone know if anyone consumed any products with the 75 ppm in them and are they still alive?


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« Reply #903 on: October 10, 2008, 11:22:12 AM »

refresh my memory please . . . . Do we have numbers as to how much of this poison was in pet food and the animal feed? And aren't the infants consuming lower levels than whats been found in some of the candy etc?

75ppm sounds like 75 crystal/stone forming "seeds" to me . . .


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« Reply #904 on: October 10, 2008, 12:50:12 PM »

With thanks to menusux and DMS, Cross-posting:

http://itchmoforums.com/off-topic-no-politics/philippines-issues-list-of-additional-formaldehydelaced-products-mic-t2390.0.html;topicseen

Quote from: menusux on October 23, 2007, 11:30:21 AM

For those of you who have been following this, there has been a second incident of children becoming ill after eating Chinese-made candy--the first was this summer. BFAD is the Philippine equivalent of FDA.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view_article.php?article_id=96275
BFAD issues new list of tainted Chinese products
October 22, 2007

"BFAD ordered the Chinese-made food products pulled out of the market after test results showed they contained formaldehyde, a cancer-causing substance popularly known as formalin.
"This comes as China battles to improve the reputation of its products amid fears over food safety.
"According to the BFAD, the following imported Chinese products contain formaldehyde:

1. Fat & Thin Lo Han Kou Pei Pa Koa Candy, Net Wt. 120g (manufacturer not indicated)

2. Sau Tab Noodle King Dried-Mix, Soya Bean Paste Flavored, Net Wt. 75g
(manufactured by Sun Shun Fuk Foods Co., Ltd.)

3. Taro Milk (Nature & Nutrition & Healthy Delicious And Incomparable!!!)
(Manufactured by Huajia Foods Co. Ltd Jinjiang City)

4. Natural is Best 200 (manufacturer not indicated)

5. Wang Fu Yuan The Best For You 120
(Manufactured by 1. Hongkong Liangshi Food Co., Ltd Supervising Manufacturer, 2. Wanfu Food Factory Dongguan City)

6. Golden Monkey Milk Candy 118g
(Shanghai Golden Monkey Food Co., Ltd)

7. Xinlong Nougat Candy net weight 300g
(Xinlong Food Co., Ltd Zhongshan City)

8. Aoxiang (manufacturer not indicated)

9. Sheng Long Marshmallow Net Wt. 50g (1.760z) Bunny Marshmallow
(Zhongshan Kunbo Foodstuff Import & Export Corporation Limited and manufactured by Zhongshan Shenlong Foodstuff Factory)

10. Maleng Pork Luncheon Meat 170g
(Produced and sold by: Chongqing Winsun Foodstuff Co., Ltd)

11. Nicefoods Sweet Orange C% 11g (manufacturer not indicated)

"Health experts say prolonged use of formaldehyde could lead to cancer, especially lung cancer. The chemical, popularly known as formalin, is a disinfectant and preservative and often used in embalming.

"China has been battling to improve the reputation of its products as industrial oils, acid, cancer-causing chemicals and other dangerous ingredients have been found in thousands of China-made food items such as baby milk powder, rice and flour.

"Early this month, 23 children on Bantayan Island in Cebu province were hospitalized suffering from stomach aches, vomiting and dizziness after eating sweets made in China.

"Last month, the Department of Education banned four Chinese food products from school canteens following reports they contained cancer-causing formaldehyde.

"In July, Beijing executed the former head of its food and drug safety watchdog for corruption as part of drastic steps to contain the problem. With reports from Tina G. Santos and Agence France-Presse"

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view_article.php?article_id=77464

BFAD tests include food, cosmetic items
July 19, 2007
"MANILA, Philippines – The Bureau of Food and Drugs (BFAD) has started testing more products from China after several brands of candy and cookies were found positive for formaldehyde, a disinfectant linked to cancer in humans.

"On Tuesday, the BFAD issued an advisory which warned the public against eating four contaminated Chinese food products:

White Rabbit Cream Candy,
manufactured by Shanghai Guan Sheng Yan Food General Factory;

Milk Candy,
manufactured by Romanticfish Food Industry Company Inc. in Fujian;

Bairong Grape Biscuits,
manufactured by Dongguan Bairong Foodstuff Company Ltd.;

Yong Kang Foods Grape Biscuits,
manufactured by Dongguan Yongkang Food Company Ltd."

The presence of formalin/formaldehyde in the BFAD tests from the Phillippines in July and October of 2007 means to me, at least,
speculating my nonscientific best, that the Chinese went from poisoning pets in 2006 and 2007 right on to poisoning children via milk
products in July of 2007 without a hitch. Why else is BFAD finding formaldehyde in White Rabbit Candy in July of 2007?
Formaldehyde liquefies melamine in milk through some arcane method of heating and mixing. The Chinese never stopped it seems.


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« Reply #905 on: October 10, 2008, 12:55:49 PM »

Or that's when they first got caught; who knows how long it may have gone on at undetected/unsuspected levels or until a certain threshold was reached? I'm feeling very cynical about all of this.


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« Reply #906 on: October 10, 2008, 01:19:00 PM »

I just sent that to David Barboza at the New York Times. All you Stupak, Dingell, DeLauro and House committee fans,
please forward as well if you can. Anyone have Sundlof's email? Thank you if you do.


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« Reply #907 on: October 10, 2008, 01:26:12 PM »

Quote from: 3catkidneyfailure on October 10, 2008, 01:19:00 PM

Send to [edited] and Feingold also! They are cosponsoring the dairy/COOL legislation. And perhaps Durbin?

ETA: [edited] should be the Jr Senator from NY that starts with a C! Cheesy


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« Reply #908 on: October 10, 2008, 01:34:28 PM »

Thank you, straybaby. You can't stop a plague from spreading, not one like this, especially
when the government regulators aren't looking for it. Until the FDA is equipped to look, an
import ban is the only hope.


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« Reply #909 on: October 10, 2008, 01:39:26 PM »

Here's another reference to last year's formaldehyde in White Rabbit:

Quote from: menusux on September 19, 2008, 12:02:48 PM

A little more than a year ago, there was quite a scandal in the Philippines and other Asian nations about a Chinese-made milk candy called White Rabbit. Testing by the Philippines and Indonesia revealed some formaldehyde in the candy. The Philippines banned the Chinese candy totally, while Indonesia found only trace amounts, which were under the health risk guidelines.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/04/AR2007090402284_pf.html

Washington Post September 5, 2007

Seeing the need for some chemical like formaldehyde to dissolve melamine made me think about the candies because they have milk as an ingredient. Possible that the candy picked this up from any adulterated milk used to make them?


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« Reply #910 on: October 10, 2008, 01:50:10 PM »

Quote from: 3catkidneyfailure on October 10, 2008, 01:34:28 PM

I agree we need a ban. We just need to stop everything and do a lot of trace back on ingredients and inspecting/testing. Hopefully more congress critters will come over to the light side on safety and will also realize how much this could benefit their states as far as the economy and jobs go. My Jr Senator has been very pro-active with NYS farmers since she's been elected. She just did her 7th annual NY Farmer day in DC a couple weeks ago.


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« Reply #911 on: October 10, 2008, 02:09:07 PM »

Quote from: 3catkidneyfailure on October 10, 2008, 01:34:28 PM

I agree completely. A ban is needed. What we've talked about in the pet food and dairy products is just where adulteration has been found. I'm sure there is much, much more that has not been found.


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« Reply #912 on: October 10, 2008, 02:13:54 PM »

you guys may laugh at me but I just saw that Oprah is doing "where our food comes from" on Tuesday so I am going to write the show an email hoping that next friday they cover the food contamination crisis and the lack of intervention ....on fridays they talk about "current events" so maybe whoever reads the emails will have kids or pets and take notice! You never know...I happen to think it is all about who reads the mail... Tongue

ETA: Message sent to the show....you never know! Roll Eyes


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« Reply #913 on: October 10, 2008, 02:24:53 PM »

Carol, that's a good idea. Between that and Senator C linton and the papers and anyone you'd care to contact, the
message can't be delivered often enough.


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« Reply #914 on: October 10, 2008, 02:35:20 PM »

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