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« Reply #735 on: October 04, 2008, 05:05:34 AM »

http://www.nhandan.com.vn/english/life/041008/life_95.htm

NhanDan Vietnam October 4, 2008

95 tonnes of melamine contaminated milk recalled

"The Hanoimilk company is asked to recall 95 tonnes of Chinese-imported melamine contaminated full cream milk powder, according to an official document by the Ministry of Public Health.

"Of which, 25 tonnes were sold to the Hanoi Asia Company. The remainder is sold to the Ho Chi Minh City Asia Company.

"According to the test result, the Hanoimilk’s two batches of milk including Full Cream milk Powder Grade A imported from the Longcom enterprise Ltd and Blue Cow - Full Cream milk Powder Used for UHT milk imported from the Heilongjiang Quimei Biological technology company Ltd, were contaminated with melamine."



Who is Heilongjiang Quimei Biological technology company Ltd?

From an AliBaba-type internet trading site:

http://www.qimeishengwu.com/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/enqyjj.html

"Heilongjiang Qimei Biological Science&Technology Company Ltd. is a modern enterprise group integrating animal husbandry, industry and commerce into a whole, with package services including production, processing, and sales, based on dairy processing industry, dominated by health food and with biological engineering technology at the core. The company now has a total asset of RMB 110 million, an annual sales income of RMB 100 million, tax and revenue RMB 20 million, and 860 employees.


"The company has two modern fine milk cow breeding research bases with the first-class national construction standard and two plants. One is a dairy production plant with an annual output of 5,000 tons of milk powder, and 6,000 tons of liquid milk. The other is a health food production plant which has passed the certification of GMP by SFDA, and produces dissolvent, capsule, oral liquid and tablet, With 23 sales companies and 150 health food franchised stores scattered in the large and medium-sized cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Hong Kong, Nanjing and Wuhan.

"Also, the company has its international trade company in shandong, SHANDONG EEJON INTERNATIONAL TRADING CO. LTD. The main business is developing the foreign trade issues. Our aim is making our products a good percentage in the world market.

"In 2006, Qimei brand was selected as one of the top 10 credible brands in the first round of China’s health food products, and four kinds of products are voted as the most credible products. And “Qimei” has been recognized as the top brand of China’s diabetic health food.

"Qimei reduced-glucose milk powder is the national patent product, the national key new product, and a project of the National Spark Program. Now, the company has five types of health products approved by the Ministry of Health, and has formed a sound product mix of 4 series and 40 varieties including health food, healthy food, infant formula milk, industrial milk powder.

"Qimei fine milk cow breeding bases can be divided into No.1 base and No.2 base. Located in the high-quality natural grassland belt of Songnen Plain in Qianping Village, Meilisi District, free of industrial pollution, it is an ideal grazing area with the first-class national construction standard. It now has 2,000 milk cows of the world top breeds, an annual output of 500 calves and 6,000 tons of high-quality fresh milk, which provide export products, health food, infant formula milk powder, etc.

"The dairy production plant is located in Ya’er’sai Town, Meilisi District, with convenient traffic and sound infrastructures. As a colony of the Tahur Nationality, it has a long tradition of grazing and rich fresh milk resources. The plant has two milk power production lines, and a liquid milk production line with a daily processing capacity of 140 tons of fresh milk, an annual output of 5,000 tons of milk powder, and 6,000 tons of liquid milk.

"The company has established 23 marketing branches in some large and medium-sized cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Hong Kong, Nanjing, Wuhan and Harbin, with 150 health food franchised stores and a professional marketing team of 650 members. Our products have entered hundreds upon hundreds of supermarkets, and we have established a long-term and stable diabetes membership group including 300,000 members."



This ring a bell with anyone?  Binzhou Futian biological technology co Ltd and Xuzhou Anying biological technology co Ltd--on internet trading sites........... Angry
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« Reply #736 on: October 04, 2008, 05:10:24 AM »

This ring a bell with anyone?  Binzhou Futian biological technology co Ltd and Xuzhou Anying biological technology co Ltd--on internet trading sites...........

No surprise here.... Angry
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« Reply #737 on: October 04, 2008, 05:12:21 AM »

http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=755267

eTaiwan News October 4, 2008

China vegetable also contains melamine

"Alleged to China media, melamine was found in not only milk powder, milk dairy products and packaged food, vegetable, mushroom, celery and tomato also contain melamine.

"It was common in China when manufacturing the feed, the manufacturers may add melamine.
Besides, it may contain other harmful chemical substances, like Sodium nitrite, which causes people to suffer cancer.

"Fortune in China also reported that the experts had investigated and found out melamine in agricultural products. Particularly, melamine exited in mushroom with 17 mg/kg.

"Fortune said, only 250 of 1500 substances, which were used to be additives, were eligible and got the international standard. It noted that the government did not manage and control over food safety."
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« Reply #738 on: October 04, 2008, 05:34:30 AM »

I finally found a measurement of melamine from packaging... which I think the FDA tries to avoid specifically mentioning in the "tiny amount" scenario.

They said as "adulterant", intentionally added.

So doesn't that makes the 2.5ppm far more than they have addressed as melamine in packing having contact with foods ?

"Unintentionally added" - crops - uptake from fertilizers, gmos - the initial level of MARC
"Unintentionally added"- meats - in tissue, organ meats (eggs?)- the 2nd level of MARC
"Unintentionally added" - contact with packaging - the  3rd level of MARC

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081004.MELAMINE04/TPStory/National

"As a component of food packaging, very small traces can contaminate food and beverages. According to the World Health Organization, average daily uptake is about 0.007 milligrams per kilo of body weight."

Has anyone seen the average daily uptake from 1st & 2nd levels?

I am thinking that since ruminants are allowed NPN in feed, that the feed for non-ruminants is not being mentioned  by the FDA due to the pigs, chickens, fish and not acknowledging animal feed for non-ruminants has/had melamine in it and that vitamins/supplements have also been adulterated.

If the FDA covered all those topics maybe there would be an understanding of  precisely where/what sources they're allowing MARC in & coming up with exposures for the 2.5ppm (and 10fold) amount.
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« Reply #739 on: October 04, 2008, 06:04:22 AM »

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=13395&geo=6&size=A

AsiaNews (Italy) October 4, 2008

Beijing, after milk, melamine in soy milk, too

"Beijing (AsiaNews/Agencies) - After poisoned powdered milk, there is a new alarm today over soy milk: the authorities of Guangzhou have ordered the recall of the product under the brand name Bingquan, because it could contain traces of melamine. This is another source of concern for Chinese consumers, who in recent weeks have used more soy products because they thought they were immune from the scandal."
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« Reply #740 on: October 04, 2008, 07:20:32 AM »

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Saturday/Frontpage/20081004183300/Article/index_html

New Straits Times Malaysia October 4, 2008

HIGH ALERT: Malaysia on look-out for melamine-tainted greens imported from China

"THE Health Ministry is now on high alert over vegetables imported from China.

“"We have learnt from Korea that they have detected a high level of melamine in vegetables they import from China,” said Health Minister Datuk Liow Tiong Lai.

“"We have launched a Level 4 check on all food products from China where we will take samples to ensure the products are safe for consumption before releasing it into the market,” he told reporters after attending the Sabah MCA convention here today."

What?  Are they talking about fresh vegetables?  If so, is this due to livestock waste and contaminated water run-off?
Sorry if this was already discussed, but there is a lot of information in this thread.

This is really getting scary!  It sounds like every single food product over there is contaminated.
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« Reply #741 on: October 04, 2008, 07:22:15 AM »

Which wouldn't be so scary if we had any way of knowing what food did come from there. I'm beginning to think COOL will never be enforced.
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« Reply #742 on: October 04, 2008, 07:31:57 AM »

How in the world would melamine get into fresh vegetables?   Huh   ?

This gets scarier by the minute.
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« Reply #743 on: October 04, 2008, 07:34:39 AM »

I think it is scary to wonder just how widely spread around the world this contamination is.  If greens are contaminated--I wonder is it pesticide, fertilizer, seed coat metabolism?  Background environmental pollution from plastic production? Genetic engineering related?--notice biotech is at the core of these companies.  We need to know the route of contamination.  So far, we still don't have that.
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« Reply #744 on: October 04, 2008, 07:38:48 AM »

http://www.saynotogmos.org/ud2007/uapr07.php

On March 30, the FDA reported finding a widely used compound called melamine (formed by dehydration of urea and used in the manufacture of plastics, as a wood resin adhesive, and in slow-release urea fertilizer), in the suspect pet foods. The FDA claims the melamine was the cause of an as yet uncounted number of cat and dog poisonings and deaths.

The Associated Press cited the Environmental Protection Agency as having identified melamine as a contaminant and byproduct of several pesticides, including cryomazine. People began to question if there is also pesticide contamination of the wheat gluten. Is there a possibility of deliberate contamination, or is it the result of gross mismanagement and lack of effective food-safety and quality controls that accounts for levels of melamine reported to be as high as 6.6% by the FDA in samples of the wheat gluten?[the plant metabolizes the cryomazine into melamine and accumulates it]

A brief internet search quickly reveals that the widely used insect growth regulator cryomazine [used as a feed-through] is not only made from melamine, but it also breaks down into melamine after ingestion by an animal. [I believe it is used for fly control in livestock]
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I am pretty sure it is used as a protective seedcoat and it is used to bind pills for humans. Along with lactose.

Edit:  I will have to re search my info on the pill binder, I can't find it now and the kids want pancakes--with syrup and hold the melamine.
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« Reply #745 on: October 04, 2008, 09:55:03 AM »

How in the world would melamine get into fresh vegetables?   Huh   ?

This gets scarier by the minute.

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Probably cumulative from the pesticide/herbicide usage in China. Probably becomes embedded in the soil
and is drawn into the vegetables when they grow.

And again I say, stop importing food from China, period.

Until this all gets straightened out, probably never, stop importing food.

In another thread, it is now confirmed that they sat on this during the Olympics, they knew about the melamik on Aug 2, but deferred reporting it because of the Olympics.

So this is what we are dealing with

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« Reply #746 on: October 04, 2008, 10:11:57 AM »

5CatMom: No, I haven't been keeping a list of recalled products, dates, and countries. Just the
number of countries confirmed to have banned Chinese dairy imports in the interests of protecting
their citizens' health. Will see if I can do that and make a cumulative chart. Trouble is the news
spin has started on behalf of the food industry and the exact product information is getting scarce.
Now with the inclusion of probably contaminated vegetable products from pesticides, it should
spike (pun intended) out of all count.
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« Reply #747 on: October 04, 2008, 10:24:31 AM »

How in the world would melamine get into fresh vegetables?   Huh   ?

This gets scarier by the minute.

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Probably cumulative from the pesticide/herbicide usage in China. Probably becomes embedded in the soil
and is drawn into the vegetables when they grow.


Could they just flat out be using waste water from melamine production? Or perhaps in certain areas their water is just that contaminated. I remember so pretty nasty pictures of waste water going directly into their rivers during the PFR.
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« Reply #748 on: October 04, 2008, 10:29:31 AM »

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ETA: Oh, and one more major factor. The nitrogen compounds in MARC have no nutritional value and the babies had to be starving/very malnourished and their internal systems going haywire using up fat & muscle, etc. to support their food needs.

This is what I was wondering during the PFR. How does this false protein in feed and food work? The feed animals obviously hit their weight from maximum product production (greed would prevent otherwise), but they can't be getting what they need, right? Or don't they live long enough for it to be an issue? And what is the value of their protein after slaughter?

Straybaby, it is my understanding that ruminants can use NPN--although I think it is a bad idea from my holistic view.

http://agriculture.kzntl.gov.za/portal/AgricPublications/ProductionGuidelines/DairyinginKwaZuluNatal/RuminantDigestion/tabid/247/Default.aspx

Digestion of protein

Dietary protein, like dietary carbohydrates, is fermented by rumen microbes. The majority of true protein, and non-protein nitrogen (NPN), entering the rumen is broken down to ammonia, which bacteria require for synthesizing their own body protein. Ammonia is most efficiently incorporated into bacterial protein when the diet is rich in soluble carbohydrates, particularly starch. Ammonia, in excess of that used by the micro-organisms, is absorbed through the rumen wall into the blood, carried to the liver, and converted to urea, the greater part is excreted in the urine. Some urea is returned to the rumen via the saliva, and also directly through the rumen wall.

The undegraded true protein fraction, plus the microbial protein, passes from the rumen to the abomasum, where it is digested, and absorbed into the bloodstream through the walls of the small intestine.
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This explanation is even better, ADM tells us how and why:

http://www.admani.com/AllianceBeef/TechnicalEdge/Ruminant%20Feed%20Microbes.htm
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Microbial fermentation has a large impact on the protein nutrition of the ruminant. Protein in feedstuffs fed to ruminants is usually described as ruminally degradable (or available) or undegradable (or bypass or escape). The undegradable portion passes through the rumen and into the lower tract “as is” where it is digested and used by the ruminant. The quality of the protein (amino acids profile) is important in these feeds because they directly impact the ruminant. A portion of the protein component (rumen degradable) of feedstuffs is broken down by microbes and incorporated into their own bodies. Microbes break down protein into amino acids, which are then split apart into ammonia and “carbon skeletons.” Carbon skeletons are often utilized as energy, while nitrogen from ammonia is used by microbes to form amino acids and proteins for its own growth and reproduction.

Microbes can effectively utilize non-protein nitrogen sources (such as biuret and urea, which are ammonia sources) because they have the enzymes and other metabolic machinery to build amino acids and proteins from ammonia. The process of degrading and rebuilding proteins has positive and negative consequences for the ruminant. On the negative side, not all of the ammonia released from feedstuffs is captured by microbes. Ammonia can escape through the rumen wall into the blood stream, and eventually pass into the urine and voided. The amount of ammonia lost can be minimized by proper ration balancing (i.e. formulating rations based on microbe and ruminant needs, which will minimize the amount of excess ammonia). Another negative aspect is the potential for ammonia poisoning, which can occur when too much ammonia passes from the rumen into the blood stream. The potential for ammonia poisoning can be avoided with proper feed management and diet formulation. On the positive side, protein built by microbes for their own use is relatively high quality and provides solid protein nutrition to the ruminant when microbes pass into the small intestine. The added perk is that this high-quality microbial protein can be built from NPN sources. The ability of ruminants to effectively utilize NPN enables more cost-effective protein supplementation.

DMS the second link you have - well we have to consider the source on that now - Archer Daniels Midland - ADM - is involved in high frutcose corn syrup and in genetically modified things also. For them to state that the ruminant digests this NPN source is totally ridiculuos IMO, and stating it the negative impact is over production of ammonia which can kill the ruminant?

How do you balance something that they try to spin as good with the other side of the production by the body of the excess ammonia and it not killing the ruminant or the excess from the ruminants that remain alive not passing thru into other products made from the body of the ruminant or the liquid obtained from the ruminant (such as milk, etc) Huh
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« Reply #749 on: October 04, 2008, 10:35:00 AM »

http://www.theglobeandmail.com:80/servlet/story/LAC.20081004.MELAMINE04/TPStory/National

Melamine-laced pretzels found on store shelves after recall
Food agency to follow up with Toronto store; language barrier may be at issue
KATE HAMMER October 4, 2008

Canadian Food Inspection Agency recalled the product, Kaiser OK OK pretzels in both chocolate and strawberry flavour, after test results that detected traces of the synthetic chemical, which though not safe for human consumption is sometimes used

CFIA tests on the strawberry-flavoured pretzels distributed in Ontario detected melamine levels of 3.1 parts per million, far below the 350 parts per million detected in the Sanlu products that made so many Chinese children ill, and the agency characterized the health risk associated with them as low.

CFIA tests on Mr. Brown 3-in-1 Instant Coffee products distributed in British Columbia, Alberta and Manitoba, however, revealed melamine levels three times as high as those that made the Chinese children ill, in a range of 900 to 1,100 parts per million, and the agency characterized the health risk associated with them as high.

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