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« Reply #480 on: September 26, 2008, 04:34:00 PM »

what about the foods that are already processed with this and other poo poo?! Let's just ban imports from China (and a couple other places) until they can inspect everything coming in from those countries. And not at the expense of other inspections. I think it's quite clear that China doesn't give a crap if it poison's the whole world.
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« Reply #481 on: September 26, 2008, 04:56:27 PM »

Many thanks to everyone who's staying on top of this. 

What's posted here just makes me sick.

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« Reply #482 on: September 26, 2008, 05:04:31 PM »

In view of the mounting evidence that Chinese milk powders entered the global village trade supply after these
adulterations began in December 2007, and the fact that there is no adequate traceability food ingredient system
in place around the globe, it does seem rather absurd for the FDA to continue to maintain, given its limited ability
to do food inspections and testing, that because the few inspections it can do are not finding melamine, for whatever
reasons, none of this affects multiple finished food products in the US. That just doesn't seem to make common
sense. I mean about 97 percent of the food imports are not inspected. It's time for the FDA to reset its chromatographs
and admit it may not know.
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« Reply #483 on: September 26, 2008, 07:03:10 PM »

Cross-posted from Sandi K, again on a Friday, after 5 o'clock:
http://itchmoforums.com/recall-nonpet-food/white-rabbit-candy-from-us-being-recalled-melamine-t6390.0.html

QFCO, Inc. Recalls White Rabbit Candy Because of Possible Health Risk in US
The White Rabbit Creamy Candy is sold in 8 or 16 oz packages. All other flavors of White Rabbit Candy, including Assorted (Chocolate, Coconut, and Coffee), Red Bean, Coffee, Co5n, Lychee, Mango and Strawberry are sold in 7 oz. packages. All packaging has a logo of a white rabbit on the front with the words "White Rabbit".

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« Reply #484 on: September 26, 2008, 07:39:56 PM »

http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/china/chinese-communist-party-china-melamine-dairy-4806.html

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has released misleading information about the safety of melamine, the poison responsible for contaminated milk and deaths of infants in China.
Investigations into CCP-run news Web sites by The Epoch Times have revealed statements claiming that milk containing melamine is safe to drink.

To me this is so evil and morally repugnant that I'm speechless.




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« Reply #485 on: September 26, 2008, 07:51:57 PM »

The FDA's same old knee-jerk reaction "we have no evidence ..."  is soooooo tiresome.  Maybe they should do some testing instead of asking importers if products are safe.    

If other countries are finding melamine, the FDA should be finding it too.

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« Reply #486 on: September 26, 2008, 08:05:16 PM »

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=130896

"Because of the threat of additional contamination he ordered FDA officials on high alert and banned the import of the category of toffee candies for the time being. Testing of toffee samples in the market is being done to determine whether it can be safely consumed.

As for the infant formula milk powders that are available in Thailand's markets, the FDA chief said he was confident that the products were free of melamine as most of the products were produced from raw materials imported from New Zealand and European countries.

However, dairy product for adults -- including yogurt -- may use milk powder from China, but less than 10 per cent, he said, which could pose minimal risk."
 

Who the heck is FDA Secretary-General Chatree Banchuen?

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« Reply #487 on: September 26, 2008, 08:22:43 PM »

According to a fast google, FDA Secretary-General Chatree Banchuen is a high and soon to be retired
official in Thailand's Food and Drug Administration.

How insane is the US to have as its third largest trading partner a country whose government lies to its citizens
and advises them to continue using products that have sicked and killed their infants and children? Heaven help
the Chinese people. Sorry, I'm still stuck on the news spin report about the Chinese Communist Party.
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« Reply #488 on: September 26, 2008, 08:52:42 PM »

Have been looking forward to getting my new glasses, because small print is hard to read.  I'm into labels if it isn't something like a fruit or veggie, and even then I hope to know where it was grown.  Never mind the labels.  I am getting to the point of not wanting to eat anything that isn't fresh right from the source.  Look on the bright side...perhaps I will lose weight!

This "thing" w/ China and all the sickened babies, probably adults, too, but they (or we ourselves) just don't know it yet is abhorrent.  Coming right on the heels of the same issues that existed in dog and cat food last year it is totally un%^&*ing believable.  Think of all the products in even our most common grocery stores that might look quite remote from being tainted but possibly are not.  Think how long this may have been going on before the word began leaking out.  Parents in remote areas of China are hardly in the habit of running to a pediatrician or immedicate care clinic as most families do here in the US at the first sign of trouble. 

Also, it brings us right back around to the question we asked before.  What will they do w/ the products if and when they are pulled from the shelves?  I think I might know the answer to that.  Uh-oh.
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« Reply #489 on: September 26, 2008, 11:22:08 PM »

straybaby I surely hope your words don't come back to haunt us all one day - I think its quite clear that China doesn't give a crap if it poison's the whole world -
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« Reply #490 on: September 26, 2008, 11:22:24 PM »

Reading this thread reminded me to check the FDA OASIS refusal report for August - another sure fire appetite suppressant for those of us who crave night nibbles!  Canada tried to send us 130 shipments of cucumbers with pesticide and Mexico attempted to send 290 shipments of fresh basil laced with salmonella, but the real eye opener was under "US" - two rejects attributed to Land O Lakes out of PA.  Milk spray whole powder - "poisonous" and milk powder - "bacteria."  Nice that they caught it at the port, but sure doesn't explain where else it went!    
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« Reply #491 on: September 27, 2008, 04:10:44 AM »

http://cherryhill.injuryboard.com/toxic-substances/melamine-making-the-fda-crack-down-on-food-at-us-ports.aspx?googleid=247964

"To help put banning regulations in place and keep tainted products out of the US food supply, the FDA has proposed a rule to put an end a practice called “port shopping.” "


LOL, proposed a rule?  Angry  We'll all be dead from this cwrap by the time the FDA gets off their butts.

The following article mentions baking mixes.  We need to be careful with all prepared foodstuffs, IMHO.

http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-closer29-2008sep29,0,7989735.story


As always, the Marler blog has some good info, too:

http://www.marlerblog.com/


Voice of America reports that WHO learned about the tainted milk on September 11th:

http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-09-26-voa45.cfm


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« Reply #492 on: September 27, 2008, 05:08:07 AM »

Remember, 5cat, you can't find what you don't look for!!
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« Reply #493 on: September 27, 2008, 06:00:38 AM »

So right, Catmom.

When those melimine dip sticks are available (in about 8 weeks), there'll be lots of testing going on  Grin.

Just hope that they will be available to consumers, and affordable.

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« Reply #494 on: September 27, 2008, 06:14:40 AM »

5CatMom - it wouldn't surprise me if the FDA comes out and says they don't work.  CPSC said that about the lead testing kits that painters have been using successfully for years.
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