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« Reply #1305 on: November 04, 2008, 11:25:42 PM »

3cat what an excellent way to put that - Russian roulette food supply. Now that is exactly what it has become and so true that China is not the only place exporting dangerous food and products. I know we can't put inspectors all over but if we made it a requirement that testing results accompany each shipment from another country that was done just before it was loaded on a ship and attached to every skid/box/crate etc. from a lab that was co set-up in that importing country that may help take the load off of other places too. And we need to quite possibly limit the food imported into this place to a few ports that would be easier to control inspecting more than the 1-2% that is now inspected.
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« Reply #1306 on: November 06, 2008, 07:45:34 AM »

OK, so today for some reason I decided to look at the ingredients on the Biotene Oral Gel we are using on Sophers and to my dismay it has friggin lactoferrin in it!  Seeing how this is an ingredient involved in some recalls in China and elsewhere I called the company and asked where they get their lactoferrin from and they checked and said they get theirs from the Netherlands......does anyone have any info about netherlands being involved in any recalled lactoferrin?  Ive checked and cant find anything other than New Zealand....
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« Reply #1307 on: November 06, 2008, 10:21:55 AM »

OK got some help from our little birdie on the question of lactofferin, thank you widdle burdie!


It looks like the lactoferrin is there to get rid of bacteria. 
 
http://www.controlled-trials.com/ISRCTN71737811/
 
Interventions--3. Standard preterm formula with addition of dairy lactoferrin (Vivinal Domo, the Netherlands, containing lactoferrin 90%, protein 97%, moisture 1.5%, minerals 1.5%)
 
http://www.nutraingredients.com/Industry/Dutch-group-increases-stake-in-lactoferrin-producer
 
Dutch Group increases stake in lactoferrin producer
 
21 May 2004
 
Netherlands-based Pharming has increased its stake in Australian company ProBio and is now hoping to accelerate the commercialisation of recombinant human lactoferrin in Asia, writes Phil Taylor.
 
Other lactoferrin producers, also from the Netherlands, include DSM and DMV.

http://www.answers.com/topic/the-campina-group

The Campina Group

Type: Cooperative
Address: Hogeweg 9, NL-5301, LB Zaltbommel, Netherlands

Web: http://www.campina.com

The Industrial Products division includes butter and other food ingredients for the industrial food industry, dairy derivatives (notably lactoferrin, protein hydrolysates, and lactose) produced by the company's DMV International operation for the pharmaceutical and health industries.

While Campina gradually became the cooperative's flagship consumer brand, the DMV name became associated with the group's actively developing industrial ingredients operations. These included the production of butter and other dairy products for the professional catering and food processing industries, as well as such products as lactose (milk sugar) and protein hydrolysates, bioactive peptides, and lactoferrin.


Whey-hey! Humble dairy by-product makes good : Food News & Comment 
DMV International (based in Veghel, the Netherlands), one of the largest producers of lactoferrin, has meanwhile formed a joint venture with US Farmland ...

Sorry, don't know the age of this article--you have to be a subscriber to get all of it.

http://food-decision.com/Financial-Industry/DMV-and-Arla-food-ingredients-to-merge

DMV & Arla To Merge 9 December 2004

Among DMV's range, that contributed €500m to Campina's €3.7 billion turnover, is its natural milk protein lactoferrin product, a leading player in the burgeoning value-added whey fractions market currently enjoying strong growth, in some parts of the world hitting 20 per cent per year.

http://members.ift.org/IFT/Pubs/Newsletters/weekly/nl091703.htm

Beef company to use lactoferrin treatment
Farmland National Beef Packing Co., the U.S.'s fourth-largest beef packer, announced that starting next month they will spray all of their products with activated lactoferrin. Lactoferrin received government approval last month for use as a wash that detaches harmful bacteria from cattle carcasses. aLF Ventures is a joint venture between Farmland National Beef and DMV International, a unit of the Netherlands-based dairy company Campina and is marketing and selling the activated lactoferrin. The company says lactoferrin is a naturally occurring substance that inhibits more than 30 strains of harmful bacteria.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/fs/food/news/aug2803lactoferrin.html

Aug 29, 2003 (CIDRAP News) – After getting a green light from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), a Salt Lake City company says it will launch the use of lactoferrin, a milk protein, as an antimicrobial treatment for beef carcasses in October.

The FDA announced last week that it sees no safety problems with the use of lactoferrin in antimicrobial sprays to prevent Escherichia coli O157:H7 contamination on beef carcasses. The agency said it has no objection to plans by aLF Ventures, Salt Lake City, to market lactoferrin for that use.

"We'll be launching this process aid beginning October 6," David R. Hall, senior vice president of aLF Ventures, told CIDRAP News. "National Beef in Kansas City [Mo.] will be placing this on 100% of their carcasses." ALF Ventures is a joint venture of Farmland National Beef, based in Kansas City, and DMV International, which is part of the Netherlands-based dairy company Campina Melkunie. Hall said Farmland National Beef accounts for about 10% of the US retail beef market.

Lactoferrin is an iron-binding protein found in milk and many other bodily secretions, according to medical reference books. In neutrophils (a type of white blood cell), it is believed to combat ingested bacteria and fungi by depriving them of iron.

Hall said the company's formulation, called activated lactoferrin (trade name Activin), doesn't kill bacteria but removes them from the surface of meat. He couldn't give a percentage reduction in bacteria effected by the lactoferrin treatment, but he said, "In the testing we did, once you put meat through the current interventions and then added lactoferrin as an incremental step, we couldn’t detect any remaining bacteria on the meat."

He cautioned, "We don't want people to say this is the silver bullet" that makes beef totally safe. "This is another incremental intervention that continues to take the pathogen level as low as it can possibly be."

Craig Hedberg, PhD, a food safety specialist at the University of Minnesota, commented that lactoferrin "serves to inhibit the growth of the organism, but there's not a lot of published literature looking at the efficacy of lactoferrin as a potential treatment. What is out there suggests that it may be in the ballpark of a 1-log [90%] reduction, which isn't a tremendous gain over other existing technologies." Hedberg is an associate professor of environmental and occupational health in the university's School of Public Health.

In a news release, the FDA said, "Although aLF Ventures was not required to seek approval from FDA before it marketed lactoferrin, aLF Ventures provided FDA scientific data supporting the firm's conclusion that lactoferrin is 'generally recognized as safe' (GRAS)." The substance is safe for the general population, including people who are allergic to milk, the statement said. A food ingredient is "GRAS" if generally available scientific data lead experts to conclude that the substance is safe for its intended use, the agency said.

In its notice to the FDA, aLF Ventures said the amount of added lactoferrin that remains on beef carcasses after spraying is comparable to the amount that occurs naturally in beef, the FDA said.

Because the residual amount is very small, the use of lactoferrin as a spray for carcasses does not require labeling of meat products from those carcasses, according to Hall and Andrea McNally, a spokeswoman for the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food Safety and Inspection Service. Hall said aLF Ventures earlier received approval from the FDA and USDA to market lactoferrin for other uses that would require labeling of the treated meat. "For carcass application they deem it as a process aid, so there's no labeling requirement for that," he said.

Hall said aLF is studying the use of lactoferrin as an antimicrobial treatment for "subprimal" cuts of meat (large pieces that are cut up further in retail stores), finished cuts, and ready-to-eat meats. Those uses would require labeling of the products, he said.

http://ift.confex.com/ift/2004/techprogram/paper_21004.htm

Technological properties and applications of lactoferrin 
J. M. STEIJNS, II, R&D Center, DMV International, PO Box 16, Wageningen, 6700 AA, Netherlands

Milk, by the virtue of its natural origin and purpose, is a wealthy source of substances known to be beneficial for the health of the neonate. Apart from essential nutrients for growth and maintenance, milk also contains components for defense against potentially harmful environmental invaders like micro-organisms. Lactoferrin, an iron-binding glycoprotein identified in high concentrations in human breast milk more than 40 years ago, plays an important role in this defence system. Lactoferrin has also been identified in the milks of the cow, pig, horse, buffalo, goat and mouse. On a commercial basis lactoferrin is isolated from cow’s milk, in which reported levels range from 20 to 200 mg/ml. The production from cow’s milk , or the whey from cheese factories, is mainly due to the economy of scale in the dairy industry together with industrial developments in chromatographic separation technology . Worldwide production of bovine lactoferrin has increased tremendously the last decade with current estimates ranging from 50 to 100 metric tonnes per year for product purities over 90%. The first major application of bovine lactoferrin was the addition to infant formulas to further humanize breast milk replacers. Many other applications followed in line with new insights from lactoferrin science. Nowadays lactoferrin is applied in a.o. nutritional iron supplements and drinks, fermented milks, chewing gums, immune enhancing nutraceuticals, cosmetic formulas and feed and pet care supplements. Dosage per 100 g product ranges from 10 mg till 100 mg. This broad application range requires knowledge on effective incorporation of this bioactive component based on the prediction of its properties during processing , storage and consumer use. Physical-chemical properties like heat stability, pH sensitivity, iron release and enzyme sensitivity are relevant in this respect. Some selected examples will be presented to illustrate this.
 


Liddle Burdie thinks more than likely the source of the lactoferrin in the oral gel would be DMV, as they seem to be working with a lot of it for a lot of different applications.


 
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« Reply #1308 on: November 06, 2008, 02:40:13 PM »

Look at the attitude...  This first quote is from a Chinese embassy official last year.  Does anyone here think the Chinese businesses are going to clean up their acts or regulatory agencies there will start doing their jobs when government officials speak this way?  I don't think much has changed at all. 

I fear it will only get worse as more factories close there and people are scrambling to sell their "raw" ingredients to make a sale.  We're already blamed for their decrease in exports, which is true in part.  But the other part of the equation is that the factory workers asked for raises, and factories cannot meet price points to produce cheap products for us AND afford pay hikes to satisfy workers.  The spending habits of the Chinese middle class just cannot fill the monetary void of fewer exports to the U.S. & other countries with contracted economies. 


"A Chinese embassy official in Washington told the WSJ last year that “Americans should deal with flaws in their own system before criticizing China,” noting U.S. problems with spinach, lettuce and peanut butter."

and

"Last week, Japanese soy sauce and wasabi</strong> were found to be contaminated with chemicals. This week they’ve found more tainted Japanese products, including soybean sauce laced with arsenic and copper-containing coffee.

And product safety officials announced Tuesday that in the first seven months of this year, they had saved Chinese consumers from 2,700 shipments of potentially contaminated food and cosmetic imports, including infant formula from Australia, 36 tons of almonds and two tons of cheese, according to today’s China Daily."

Nov. 6, 2008
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinajournal/2008/11/06/amid-domestic-product-safety-crisis-china-plays-up-problems-from-abroad/

It looks as though China is now trying to embarrass Japan because Japan called China out for melamine products.  Let's see how this turns out.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/china-says-japanese-produced-seasoned-soy-sauce-coffee-tainted
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« Reply #1309 on: November 06, 2008, 02:52:42 PM »

Purringfur, I noticed that too in the book I read Pet Food Politics.  Right after the recalls, China vowed to make their food safer, what happened to that?  This year we have the same exact problem going on albeit a different product but once again the same vow from China.  If they were at all willing to take suggestions, mine to them would be, keep track of your own house first before pointing fingers at other's houses. 
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« Reply #1310 on: November 06, 2008, 08:38:42 PM »

Sandi, lactoferrin was reapproved this year in October by FSIS for use on beef carcasses. See:
http://itchmoforums.com/recall-nonpet-food/melamine-suspected-chinese-officials-say-baby-formula-tied-to-kidney-stones-t6256.0.html;msg93606;topicseen#msg93606
I'd be highly suspicious of any product containing it even if thought to be from the Netherlands.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/06/2412698.htm?section=world
Aust milk products fail quality standards, say China
By China correspondent Stephen McDonell
Posted Thu Nov 6, 2008 10:16pm AEDT

China has named two Australian-produced infant milk brands as failing to meet quality standards.

According to a Chinese Government website, local authorities intercepted 191 batches of problem foreign goods in July.

Amongst the list is milk powder from Australia. According to China's quarantine service, nine tonnes of Ausnutria milk powder produced by Tatura Industries failed a standard for E sakazaki bacteria.

More than 14 tonnes of Pauls brand milk power also failed a bacteria standard, the site says.

Some analysts say China could be naming foreign companies to deflect criticism of Chinese powdered milk, which has killed at least four children after the harmful chemical melamine was added to it to artificially boost protein levels.


For years the food supply focus has been maximizing profits in the global food supply with little to no attention paid to food quality
and food safety. Witness how many countries across the world could not even test within their own countries due to lack of the
necessary equipment for melamine testing in the 2008 China scandal. China is one country, not the only country, where the cultural bent
seems to be make money at all costs. I don't believe after the Asian pet food scandals of 2004 and the US pet food recalls of 2007
that China or any other country in the world thought the addition of melamine scrap to food was not dangerous. There continues
to be a total lack of concern for food safety, with admitted holes and gaps in import inspection by almost all countries across the
globe. China's continual denial of problems with its food supply in the face of 2007 and 2008 make China definitely the most
dangerous food and drug supplier currently. Even the catastrophe caused to its own children does not seem to have been
recognized by the Chinese government.

Our own FDA continues to procrastinate and attempt to deny its own science failings even in view of its own Science Board's
critique of the agency in the fall of 2007. The gaps and holes in US food supply inspection and safety considerations are simply
inviting the same catastrophe for US consumers and can no longer be tolerated. I've come to believe we're almost as threatened
by US food producers as by the Chinese [I said almost]. There simply is no excuse for not recognizing and reacting to the threat
with much more attention to food safety and food quality.

I wonder if all these Oasis chocolate refusals are truly, as implied by the violation codes, in August and September of 2008 related
to labelling, colorings, and flavorings, or if it's possible they might be related to something else:

http://www.fda.gov/ora/oasis/8/ora_oasis_i_34.html

http://www.fda.gov:80/ora/oasis/9/ora_oasis_i_34.html

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« Reply #1311 on: November 10, 2008, 04:01:59 PM »

Now that our hardware hiatus seems to be over, here's a very worrisome post about
birth defects possibly caused by long term consumption of melamine:

Now I am really worried, and so should the US FDA be worried:

http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/china/melamine-birth-defects-6811.html

Melamine Contaminated Food May Cause Birth Defects Epoch Times Staff Nov 6, 2008
The long term impact of such melamine contamination and its effect on future generations remains unknown.
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« Reply #1312 on: November 10, 2008, 05:48:48 PM »

From the article cited in 3cat's post #1311:

"Over the past year as many as 15 percent of newborns in Guangzhou City were diagnosed with birth defects such as multi-toe, Palestinian child's edema, congenital heart disease, and cleft lip and palate. The birth defects were caused by many factors, including environmental pollution, lead paints used in homes, home furnishings, poor lifestyle choices, and malnutrition."

Fifteen percent is a large percentage!
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« Reply #1313 on: November 11, 2008, 04:36:04 AM »

For those that have not seen these...I am going to try to contact him..
just don't know how to yet.. Huh 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3dbBQPIFf0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUB79WJ9ktQ
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« Reply #1314 on: November 11, 2008, 08:31:13 AM »

Afraid I have no tears for these people and their business losses; only the parents and children of China and
around the world. All companies who act against consumer health and product qualiy as first concerns in food
and drug products distributed globally should end up out of business, not just with upset shareholders:

http://www.industrysearch.com.au/News/NZFarmers_concerns_that_Fonterras_reputation_is_at_risk-35449
NZ:Farmers concerns that Fonterra's reputation is at risk
... Fonterra Co-operative Group Ltd has been named to a list of the world's largest companies most criticised for their impacts on the environment, health and communities, by Swiss -owned RepRisk, a consulting firm that analyses companies' exposure to controversial issues and news.
Fonterra along with Sanlu Group Co and big Chinese rival Inner Mongolia Yili Industrial Group Co have both been included on in the RepRisk "top 10" after 22 producers were found to have sold milk containing toxic melamine.
In New Zealand, the shareholders said it was sensible to invest in China, but "it seems subsequent resourcing did not improve the co-operative's ability to impact the operations of the business".
While $139 million of the Sanlu investment had formally been written off, the full cost was still to be quantified.

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« Reply #1315 on: November 11, 2008, 08:37:17 AM »

Another suspicious FDA voluntary food recall, strawberry flavored:

http://www.fda.gov:80/oc/po/firmrecalls/nestle11_08.html

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- November 7, 2008, Glendale, CA -- Nestlé USA is voluntarily recalling two (2) production codes of Nestlé Nesquik Strawberry Powder 21.8 ounce that may contain small fragments of aluminum.

The recall only includes two (2) production codes of 21.8-ounce containers of Nestlé Nesquik Strawberry Powder. Printed on the bottom of each plastic container is a production code of "82255880" or "82265880" with a best by date of "August 2010."


Anyone know if there is any requirement by the US FDA that the reason for the voluntary recall be truthful?


If you doubt melamine is still pouring into the United States in our 97 to 99 percent of uninspected food imports, see these Oasis refusals
for October 2008, where there is no doubt about the adulterant [thanks, catbird]:
http://itchmoforums.com/news-recall-related/oasis-refusals-october-2008-t6820.0.html

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« Reply #1316 on: November 11, 2008, 09:10:51 AM »

This is from Nov. 11, 2008's Washington Post and is a repeat of information posted earlier in this thread,
but seemingly just appearing in mainstream media, The Mathematics of Melamine:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thecheckout/2008/11/the_mathematics_of_melamine.html?nav=rss_blog
The following excerpt is from an article that ran in Chemistry World, a publication of the Royal Society of Chemistry based in the UK.

Industrial melamine costs about 12,000 yuan (US$1,765) per ton, much higher than the price of milk - 1,200-1,800 yuan per ton. But the practice of adding melamine to milk is profitable because just one gram of melamine per kg of milk is enough to lift the apparent protein content of milk from less than 27 grams of protein per kilogram (the cheapest grade of milk in China) to greater than 31 grams per kilogram - the most expensive grade.
So for 0.012 yuan (0.0018 US cents), producers can illegally boost the price of a liter of milk from 1.2 yuan (17.6 US cents) to 1.8 yuan (26.5 US cents) per kilogram. If the milk is diluted, the resulting profits can be even greater.
That sort of return is hard to beat. And while Chinese officials have tried to minimize how widespread melamine use is, those numbers show why it's been hard to squash economic adulteration.


The message here for the US FDA is very clear. You have to replace the 100 year old nitrogen sum protein test you're using on food
products to determine the individual sources of the food's protein content. The use of this antiquated test promotes the use of melamine in the food supply around the world, and it's very unsafe for the food consumer.

See, from July 15, 2007[thank you Offy, menusux, and countless other contributors to the itchmoforums, who knew this shortly after March 16, 2007]:
http://itchmoforums.com/news-recall-related/pet-food-recall-it-could-have-been-prevented-one-pet-owners-opinion-t1118.0.html

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This means if the pet food industry cared about protein content, usable protein and the prices, they could have recognized this and prevented this whole melamine NPN issue from ever happening. They'd have also caught on to why it was so cheap to buy the ingredients in the first place.


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http://www.holsteinusa.com/html/trueweb.html
The new Federal Milk Marketing Orders, which went into effect January 1, 2000, pay for protein on a true-protein scale instead of the crude-protein scale that had been used previously in many parts of the country. The change was made because true protein is more accurately measured in the lab and is more reflective of the nutritional and manufacturing value of milk....While this change does not affect the price you receive for your milk (unless you have unusually high or low levels of non-protein nitrogen in your milk), it does affect the protein level that you see with your milk payment.

If the Dairy Industry could do in 2000, there is no reason the Pet Food Industry could not have done it. After all, they are responsible for the nutritional value of the pet foods and the safety of those foods. They are supposed to know the nutritional value of the pet foods.


Cheating the standard protein tests is easy, but industry hesitates on alternatives.. July 15 2007 Scientific American.com Alison Snyder


http://www.sciam.com/print_version.cfm?articleID=ACB480D7-E7F2-99DF-386D411734605ECC

After hundreds of dogs and cats fell ill this past spring, government officials traced the source to melamine, a nitrogen-rich compound found in plastics and fertilizer that, when ingested by the animals, crystallized in their kidneys and caused renal failure. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration later announced that producers may have deliberately added the compound to wheat gluten and rice protein concentrates to inflate the measured amount of protein. The greater the protein level in the concentrates, the higher the market price the products fetch. Regardless of whether its addition was deliberate or accidental, mela­mine snuck past standard industry protein analysis, suggesting that the century-old test methods should be reevaluated. Several alternatives exist, but the food industry has yet to make a switch.

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Thus far pet food makers and other processors have not decided whether to adopt new methods. “We’re in the process of building a feed safety protocol,” says Ron Salter, a vice president at feed distribution company Wilbur-Ellis in San Francisco. He adds that the company will be looking into feed sampling and testing procedures. In the meantime, nitrogen-based methods will likely remain top dog among protein-testing techniques.
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« Reply #1317 on: November 11, 2008, 10:23:21 AM »

Hmmmm, 80 percent fall in Hong Kong's egg supply from a month ago:

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from=rss_World&set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=nw20081110113206123C615642
Egg-fried rice off Hong Kong menus
Supplies from China are believed to have fallen by 80 percent in recent weeks after the discovery in October of the same chemical in eggs that caused a nationwide milk scare a month earlier.



6.5 percent of China's egg production is exported to the United States.
Has that been tested lately by the US FDA?



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« Reply #1318 on: November 11, 2008, 10:57:14 AM »

Think of all the products on our shelves that have egg on the ingredient list. Egg, powdered milk.  How long has the American public been consuming melamine in varying amounts?  How many health problems are directly related to this?  We'll never know.  There are probably some posts on this thread I have missed, and it has probably already been discussed, but has the FDA checked infant formula here in our own country?
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« Reply #1319 on: November 11, 2008, 11:02:51 AM »

Here's someone else's unofficial list of melamine-contaminated foods:

http://creativeherb.com/2008/10/30/unofficial-melamine-contaminated-food-list/

One really does have to wonder about the strawberry mix recall.  There were certainly a number of strawberry-flavored products recalled around the world already: cookies, sour milk, pretzels, ice cream, etc.

Carolo, I also worry about the eggs, powdered eggs in addition to fresh.  Some bakeries & restaurants use the powdered form to save some money.  Yikes!

I think Mike Mozart, who does the melamine/poisonous food videos on youtube, has 3 videos total.  Is that correct?  I hope everyone here has viewed them.  I wonder if Mike can gather a collection to have some of his Chinese-made candy tested for melamine.   
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