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3cat...I can think of no better time than now for you to call Rep DeLauro's office in Washington. I don't live in CT but when I talked to her secretary she wrote everything down and said she was forwarding it to the team of people the Rep has on the melamine crisis...it was about the melamine in US feed from that one souce we found and then a couple days later she mentions melaine in the feed so I can't help but think she is REALLY on top of this! I got the number from her website...
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« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2008, 04:32:57 AM » |
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3cat, I cannot imagine what you must be feeling now. I think everyone has given good ideas. There must be other foods that the wee one can have instead of the Nestle product. Surely his doctors will do some research and find something safe.
Blessings and prayers for Hunter, his worried family and all the others who have been/are/may be affected by this terrible situation.
I hope the people responsible are aware of the pain and misery they are inflicting on others.
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« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2008, 04:34:06 AM » |
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And is anyone else as angry as I am how we found out this....from an alert AP reporter snooping and asking through Freedom of Information Act??? Why are we the people not made aware of this...
First ZERO level is safe in baby formula but 2.5 ppm in other things was ok as things started to be tested....but now that it is above ZERO we read it is okay....when will the BS stop...I can not for one minute understand the attitude of the people who are paid to protect us and our foods....keeping us in the dark is one sure way for us to become suspicious that there is more going on....Honesty is the best policy I was told as I was growing up....wish all were told that........and if the powers that be don't know what this all means than by God say that...not "don't worry ..keep feeding..." The last paragraph in the AP article that says the pediatrician is worried about the long-term effects shows me he has a heart and a conscious...
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« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2008, 04:46:05 AM » |
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Carol, I am not at all surprised at the way we found out. This is their SOP and have been anything but open and honest about anything. It's only when they are found out that they say anything.
Someone has to do some serious housecleaning at the FDA and USDA. Far as I'm concerned, throw all the bums out and start from scratch with people who REALLY are concerned about our health and safety.
To me, the most frustrating part is that they keep doing what they do and people fuss and fume, but it doesn't change a thing. WE NEED SOME ACTION HERE!!
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« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2008, 04:50:10 AM » |
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I truly think Rep DeLauro is our best hope...my concerns to others including my own state just either don't get acknowledged or I get a general type of email response that everyone probably gets..
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« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2008, 05:08:33 AM » |
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3 cat, I haven't read any further than your email. that makes Me so angry, i just could screem. Is there anything We can do to help, call, write, what can We do to help you with hunter?
I'm sick over this.
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« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2008, 05:31:34 AM » |
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President-elect Obama has a website for people to share their opinions, concerns. I just wrote a few comments on the health care discussion about this . . . www.change.gov |
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« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2008, 07:02:17 AM » |
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CNN ran a story on it this morning and the reported stated that FDA tested 77 different samples of formula and found the melamine in one sample. She said they told her it is from packaging and came from the plastic in the can? Has anyone else heard this kind of stuff before, that it is the cans leaching the melmaine? If thats the case, how come we didnt hear it when the pet food recalls were going on? And the reporter didnt address any cyanuric acid at all. ETA, here's the CNN story: http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/11/25/infant.formula.melamine/index.htmlI sent an e:mail to CNN but doubt I will hear anything back. Afterall when FDA speaks, its the gospel, dont need to ask anymore questions of them.  |
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« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2008, 08:05:20 AM » |
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You have all suggested good ideas. Am talking to the urologist today.
Just say a few extra prayers and will let you know
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« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2008, 09:09:04 AM » |
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This whole situation is so out of control I cannot stand it, first our loving pets and now new born babies. WTF Can't type anymore than this to angry and afraid what else might come out of my mouth. |
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« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2008, 10:56:33 AM » |
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Yes, StillGoingNutz,All of a sudden I've terrified again.
Damn China and Damn the FDA.
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« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2008, 11:09:43 AM » |
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There was an op/ed piece last week, that I found educational and scary. On a more concrete note, melamine not only has widespread industrial applications, but is also used to buttress the foundation of American agriculture.
Fertilizer companies commonly add melamine to their products because it helps control the rate at which nitrogen seeps into soil, thereby allowing the farmer to get more nutrient bang for the fertilizer buck. But the government doesn’t regulate how much melamine is applied to the soil. This melamine accumulates as salt crystals in the ground, tainting the soil through which American food sucks up American nutrients... But as all the caveats above indicate, these precautions will only go so far. Melamine, after all, points to the much larger relationship between industrial waste and American food production. Regulations might be lax when it comes to animal feed and fertilizer in China, but take a closer look at similar regulations in the United States and it becomes clear that they’re vague enough to allow industries to “recycle” much of their waste into fertilizer and other products that form the basis of our domestic food supply.More here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/opinion/17mcwilliams.html?scp=4&sq=melamine&st=cse |
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« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2008, 11:43:27 AM » |
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well, just when you can't get any madder...you can..Nestle has known for weeks... The FDA shared its results with Nestle a few weeks ago, Huber said. He said he wasn't sure whether Nestle had tested other of its products beyond what it did related to the FDA.http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1862401,00.html |
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« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2008, 11:54:08 AM » |
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http://www.njbiz.com/article.asp?aID=76715
Pharma Cos., FDA To Discuss Fallout of Melamine in Baby Food
By Shankar P.
11/26/2008
Pharmaceutical industry executives are scheduled to meet with officials from the Food and Drug Administration in Washington, D.C., late this afternoon to discuss strategies to deal with the outcome of the regulator’s disclosure about melamine traces in infant formula and nutritional and medical supplements. Peter Paradossi, a spokesman for Mead Johnson Nutritionals, a Bristol-Myers Squibb group company in Evansville, Ind., that makes infant formula, said his company executives will attend.
The FDA had detected of melamine traces in its infant formula powder, Enfamil Lipil, Paradossi said, but added that tests at Mead Johnson has not detected “any level of melamine in its products.” He said the FDA has used a different testing methodology to obtain its results of melamine traces of 0.137 and 0.140 parts per million, while the published test method measures traces up to 0.250 ppm.
Paradossi also pointed to a comment from Stephen Sundlof, director of the FDA’s Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, in a Wall Street Journal report that the melamine traces “did not cause any concern at all, not from a health standpoint.”
The FDA has not linked the melamine traces to any manufacturing facility in New Jersey. The Wall Street Journal reported that the agency tested products from Abbott Laboratories, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Nestle, PBM Products and Solus Products — all based outside the state. Madison-based Wyeth does market infant formula products, but does not manufacture any of them in the United States, according to Michael Lampe, a company spokesman in Collegeville, Pa.
Paradossi also said “the FDA and other experts have stated that the melamine levels detected in the U.S. product are significantly lower than the levels found in China.” In September, in response to reports from China of melamine-contaminated infant formula, the FDA issued an advisory to assure the American public that there is no known threat of contamination of infant formula manufactured by companies that have met the requirements to sell such products in the United States.[/color
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« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2008, 12:09:40 PM » |
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"discuss strategies to deal with the outcome of the regulator’s disclosure about melamine traces in infant formula and nutritional and medical supplements"
Right, we thought that's what you all had already done - tried to bury it... now deal with the outcome? How about how to stop melamine & cyanuric acid getting into foods in the United States...
Any person with a heart and soul wouldn't be looking at how to deal with the outcome of the disclosure.. they'd be finding a solution to the problem, and a way to prevent adulterants like melamine, cyanuric acid & NPNs in INFANT & BABY food PERIOD.
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