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« Reply #120 on: November 30, 2008, 02:01:45 PM »

 Grin Carol, would you and DH like an expense free trip to Sin City?
No snow.
Drenched sheetrock crumbles pretty easily. But wet insulation was
a real surprise. Look out for even small ceiling bubbles!
Hunter's more important, as is finding a lab for human urine testing.
If he has melamine crystals, then will want to test food, Nestle Product.
Was thinking of some place like Mayo Clinic in Phoenix. What do you all
think? Or major metropolitan hospital in Southern California, maybe?
A teaching and research center like Loma Linda, USC, or UCLA?


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« Reply #121 on: November 30, 2008, 02:21:00 PM »

3cat, I am so sorry, I feel so darn bad for you and everything you are going thru.  I would guess your stress level is at a 20 on a scale of 1 to 10?    Hey, I was thinking of a place today that you could maybe call and talk to them and that is Cornell, they are a top-notch facility. 
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« Reply #122 on: November 30, 2008, 02:26:55 PM »

3cat gosh things really do come in 3's as I've had same happen. Sounds like your concentrating on Hunter and finding a place for the testing. I also thought of Jude Children's Research Hospital. Just saw a special and they treat kids whose parents are on limited funds and have no extra for all the help they provide. Since it is a research as well as healing place just thought you might want to call them also.
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« Reply #123 on: November 30, 2008, 02:31:37 PM »

What about St Judes? Or Cedars Siani? (sp?!) And wasn't a lab developing a melamine/urine test? I thought I read that here?

How on earth can the FDA say don't worry be happy when there are children like Hunter out there? And seniors with health issues drinking nutritional drinks to gain/maintain weight (come on, we all know those drinks are highly suspect now). I have 2 seniors in my building with serious health issues and a need to maintain weight.
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« Reply #124 on: November 30, 2008, 07:04:23 PM »

Posted contact emails to Cedars Sinai and St. Jude's Research Hospital.

Attach a recent picture of Hunter for those of you who would like to associate a face
with all those we don't want harmed in the USA.

One last comment on the ceiling flood. Thanksgiving night, before the flood the next day,
Smorgi, my chronic renal failure cat, jumped up on top of the wall unit right next to where
the water was pooling and howled at the ceiling.
I should have known. What wondrous creatures cats are. Even sick they have better sense
than their pet guardians. Cat stand, to wall unit top, and howling for a good several minutes.
Just amazing how hard she tried to warn considering how bad she's feeling.
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« Reply #125 on: November 30, 2008, 07:09:36 PM »

Hunter is such a cute baby, 3cat. Hoping that he is OK with all of this mess in the milk products.

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« Reply #126 on: November 30, 2008, 07:14:42 PM »

Thank you, caylee. I think he's pretty cute, too. He's come through so very
much this first year of his life. No baby or infant deserves to be eating
poisonous food.
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« Reply #127 on: November 30, 2008, 07:24:41 PM »

3cat- Hunter is adorable ! I hope you can get his urine tested and find a safe formula for him. Its amazing what animals can sense isn't it ? TG no one was hurt and hopefully you can get it repaired quickly ! Wish some of us lived closer and could help more.
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« Reply #128 on: November 30, 2008, 07:25:44 PM »

I think that Hunter and Smorgi are both pretty amazing, 3cat.  Thanks for posting Hunter's picture.
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« Reply #129 on: November 30, 2008, 08:10:36 PM »

Hunter is as cute and bright as can be, 3cat!  Here is a resource that might help you out with the testing issue.

http://www.adoptmed.org/topics/melamine-and-chinese-adoptions.html

They are not urine testing specifically for melamine and explain why there, but there go into detail on other tests that they do.  Very sad to see that in that context, isn't it?


ETA:  Sorry to hear about the roof problem!  Shocked  Amazing about Smorgi trying to alert you.
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« Reply #130 on: November 30, 2008, 10:06:40 PM »

Awww, Hunter is just so precious, 3cat. Hoping you can get the tests done and find the safest formula quickly.
It never fails to astonish me, the things that cats can sense.
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« Reply #131 on: November 30, 2008, 10:34:39 PM »

Hunter is a lil doll 3cat! They say animals have a sense about things - like when an earthquake is coming or hurricane - they can sense it long before it actually arrives or happens. You have one smart kitty there in your Smorgi.
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« Reply #132 on: December 01, 2008, 04:26:59 AM »

Hugs and smooches to Hunter and Smorgi.... Kiss Kiss
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« Reply #133 on: December 01, 2008, 05:15:16 AM »

Good girl, Smorgi! You are one smart and brave catgirl. Now if only your people would listen to you . . . sigh.
Hunter is a beautiful little boy.

Nothing but prayers and healing thoughts for all of you.

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« Reply #134 on: December 01, 2008, 06:36:45 AM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/01/us/01fda.html?ref=us

sorry if this is already here..it is in the print version today on page A17 of the New York edition... yeah to Andrew for still covering this---a familiar name for all of us here...

F.D.A. Details Its Food Safety Campaign
 
By ANDREW MARTIN
Published: November 30, 2008
After years of being criticized for its response to food-sickness outbreaks and contaminated imports, the Food and Drug Administration is stepping up efforts to convince the public and skeptical lawmakers that it is making progress in overhauling the nation’s food defenses.

The agency will release a report Monday that summarizes what officials call a “hugely ambitious” campaign to reshape its food inspection arm to root out safety hazards through things like sophisticated software and certifiers from the private sector.

“The goal is to radically redesign the process,” said Dr. David Acheson, the agency’s associate commissioner for foods. For imported food, for instance, that means trying to detect tainted products during the production process rather than waiting until they enter the country.

“We cannot simply rely on picking the ball up at the point of entry,” Dr. Acheson said.

The changes were first outlined in the agency’s Food Protection Plan, which was released in November 2007. In June, the agency was criticized by the Government Accountability Office for failing to provide details on the costs or specific strategies for carrying out the plan. Some lawmakers have repeatedly called the agency’s food protection efforts inadequate.

But in the agency’s report, a copy of which was provided to The New York Times, and in an interview with Dr. Acheson, the F.D.A. maintains that its overhaul is well under way.

For instance, the agency is hiring at least 130 employees to conduct inspections and collect samples. It has approved the use of irradiation for iceberg lettuce and spinach to reduce the risk from pathogens like E. coli O157:H7 and salmonella, and it is opening offices in other countries to improve the monitoring of food exported to the United States.

The first office opened in Beijing in mid-November, and more are planned in Europe, India, Latin America and the Middle East.

Dr. Acheson acknowledged that the agency did not have enough money to put in place all its plans. Some critics have expressed skepticism about the agency’s commitment to an overhaul and are calling for more drastic changes when the Obama administration takes over in January.

“I’ve tried to be open about when they come in and say they are doing this and doing that,” said Representative Rosa DeLauro, Democrat of Connecticut. “But at every step, they fail on just such a large scale.”

Ms. DeLauro said the agency’s recent reaction to the discovery of the toxic chemical melamine in infant formula was evidence of its continued dysfunction. This fall, the agency said that any amount of melamine in infant formula might be harmful. But the agency then said that trace amounts of melamine were acceptable after they were found in formula made in the United States.


“It’s got to be so totally redone,” Ms. DeLauro said of the agency. “It needs resources; it needs better management; it needs less influence from the industry and more influence on the science.”

In addition to regulating drugs and medical devices, the agency oversees about 80 percent of the nation’s food supply, which includes keeping tabs on tens of thousands of manufacturers in the United States and abroad.

Given the cost and logistics of inspecting each company, the agency is shifting toward a more risk-based approach that would use vast quantities of data to pinpoint areas of risk and deploy resources accordingly. The offices overseas will try to build relationships with foreign regulators and develop information on foreign manufacturers.

For instance, the agency hopes that companies will hire reliable third-party auditors to inspect facilities because it does not have the personnel to do so. In exchange, companies would be cleared to import their products to the United States with less chance of inspection or bureaucratic roadblocks.

In addition, the agency is hoping to deploy a sophisticated screening program, used successfully on seafood, to better identify high-risk foods at the border.
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