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well, just when you can't get any madder...you can..Nestle has known for weeks... The FDA shared its results with Nestle a few weeks ago, Huber said. He said he wasn't sure whether Nestle had tested other of its products beyond what it did related to the FDA.http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1862401,00.html |
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« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2008, 11:54:08 AM » |
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Pharma Cos., FDA To Discuss Fallout of Melamine in Baby Food
By Shankar P.
11/26/2008
Pharmaceutical industry executives are scheduled to meet with officials from the Food and Drug Administration in Washington, D.C., late this afternoon to discuss strategies to deal with the outcome of the regulator’s disclosure about melamine traces in infant formula and nutritional and medical supplements. Peter Paradossi, a spokesman for Mead Johnson Nutritionals, a Bristol-Myers Squibb group company in Evansville, Ind., that makes infant formula, said his company executives will attend.
The FDA had detected of melamine traces in its infant formula powder, Enfamil Lipil, Paradossi said, but added that tests at Mead Johnson has not detected “any level of melamine in its products.” He said the FDA has used a different testing methodology to obtain its results of melamine traces of 0.137 and 0.140 parts per million, while the published test method measures traces up to 0.250 ppm.
Paradossi also pointed to a comment from Stephen Sundlof, director of the FDA’s Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, in a Wall Street Journal report that the melamine traces “did not cause any concern at all, not from a health standpoint.”
The FDA has not linked the melamine traces to any manufacturing facility in New Jersey. The Wall Street Journal reported that the agency tested products from Abbott Laboratories, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Nestle, PBM Products and Solus Products — all based outside the state. Madison-based Wyeth does market infant formula products, but does not manufacture any of them in the United States, according to Michael Lampe, a company spokesman in Collegeville, Pa.
Paradossi also said “the FDA and other experts have stated that the melamine levels detected in the U.S. product are significantly lower than the levels found in China.” In September, in response to reports from China of melamine-contaminated infant formula, the FDA issued an advisory to assure the American public that there is no known threat of contamination of infant formula manufactured by companies that have met the requirements to sell such products in the United States.[/color
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« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2008, 12:09:40 PM » |
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"discuss strategies to deal with the outcome of the regulator’s disclosure about melamine traces in infant formula and nutritional and medical supplements"
Right, we thought that's what you all had already done - tried to bury it... now deal with the outcome? How about how to stop melamine & cyanuric acid getting into foods in the United States...
Any person with a heart and soul wouldn't be looking at how to deal with the outcome of the disclosure.. they'd be finding a solution to the problem, and a way to prevent adulterants like melamine, cyanuric acid & NPNs in INFANT & BABY food PERIOD.
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« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2008, 12:32:16 PM » |
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one way to deal with the "outcome" . . . .
fire their asses at the top of FDA and fine the hell out of the companies that are putting tainted food/products in our stores. That's about all I'll accept at this point.
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« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2008, 01:15:40 PM » |
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I'm with straybaby.
The FDA is a joke and not a funny one.
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« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2008, 01:31:08 PM » |
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Someone once posted that F D A should stand for Federal Death Agency. Need to get rid of everyone, get people who will genuinely look out for our food and safety of children's health as well as adults in place and give it a whole new name as the current one stand for what exactly? I could think of a few choice words but can't print them here.
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« Reply #51 on: November 26, 2008, 01:36:24 PM » |
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My wife and I have an 8-month old baby boy at home, who sometimes eats Enfamil Lipil when my wife is unable to nurse. I just learned about this today, and it both scares the sh** out of me and ticks me off at the same time. Luckily, we're switching him over to a hypoallergenic formula now.
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« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2008, 01:50:41 PM » |
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Well, Wal Mart must have known 2 weeks ago  Because they took it off the shelves. Now, that sounds funny to Me. I think We should sue, it's the only thing left. |
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« Reply #53 on: November 26, 2008, 01:51:45 PM » |
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well, just when you can't get any madder...you can..Nestle has known for weeks... The FDA shared its results with Nestle a few weeks ago, Huber said. He said he wasn't sure whether Nestle had tested other of its products beyond what it did related to the FDA.http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1862401,00.htmlToo bad the FDA didn't think to share those results with the public, the people who pay them and depend on them for safety! Proprietary information or malfeasance? We never would have heard about it if it hadn't been for the FOIA being used. What kind of country is this? We need to kick these *%#$$$$ to the curb, the sooner the better. Enough is enough!!!! I have so had it. |
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« Reply #54 on: November 26, 2008, 01:56:35 PM » |
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My wife and I have an 8-month old baby boy at home, who sometimes eats Enfamil Lipil when my wife is unable to nurse. I just learned about this today, and it both scares the sh** out of me and ticks me off at the same time. Luckily, we're switching him over to a hypoallergenic formula now.
Eric, please see my post earlier in this thread to 3Cat and write "your people". We need letters (ammo!) and urgency to get this situation nailed and some laws changed. This is totally un-[edited]-acceptable that our children (and selves) are at risk. We KNEW this was going to happen back in 2007, yet our country is acting no better than China. |
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« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2008, 02:04:30 PM » |
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Intentional Double-speak: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1862401,00.htmlFDA scientists said then that they couldn't set an acceptable level of melamine exposure in infant formula because science hadn't had enough time to understand the chemical's effects on infants' underdeveloped kidneys. Plus, there is the complicating factor that infant formula often constitutes a newborn's entire diet. The agency added, however, that its position did not mean that any exposure to a detectable level of melamine and melamine-related compounds in infant formula would result in harm to infants. [or that it wouldn't. so it should not be there in any circumstance!]Still, the announcement was widely interpreted by manufacturers, the news media and Congress to mean that infant formula that tested positive at any level could not be sold in the United States. ******************************** I would say consumers interpreted it that way as well. The way it was meant to be interpreted. |
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« Reply #57 on: November 26, 2008, 02:13:46 PM » |
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The head of manufacturing for Nestle Nutrition in North America, Walter Huber, said in an interview that the company took samples alongside FDA officials who visited a manufacturing plant, and that those samples showed similar results to what FDA found for the two pediatric medical foods. Huber added that Nestle didn't fund cyanuric acid in any of the samples.
The FDA shared its results with Nestle a few weeks ago, Huber said. He said he wasn't sure whether Nestle had tested other of its products beyond what it did related to the FDA.
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Really, really hard to believe he doesn't know. Maybe it will take another FOIA request to jog his memory.
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« Reply #58 on: November 26, 2008, 02:18:02 PM » |
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I can not stress enough how concerned the secretary to Rep DeLauro was weeks ago when I called with the link to the melamine in US animal feed that someone found...she needs to hear firsthand from you that are so affected...this is one person in our government that truly understands this..I called the Washington DC number and someone answered and listened and gave the info to the committee working on this.....I really think this can help...turn your anger into change...for everybody..  We all saw this coming from early 2007 so let's use this horrible situation to try to get the powers that be to listen to us! |
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« Reply #59 on: November 26, 2008, 02:26:17 PM » |
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I got so angry i deleated My own post by mistake.
If melamine is in the fertilizer, We are surrounded on 3 sides here with My daughter, by crops. Is this safe for the pets, who run through it every day? Is it safe for us, and is it safe for us to drink the water- It's city water.
We still have soy beans here.
I guess i'm wondering about the risk?
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