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« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2008, 05:10:01 PM » |
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I don't understand. Do You mean it could be beef from Texas?
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« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2008, 03:54:21 AM » |
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« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2008, 04:07:06 AM » |
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Looks like it's Bart Stupak's subcommittee, and maybe the date is July 31st (instead of the 30th). THURSDAY, JULY 31, 2008 The Recent Salmonella Outbreak: Lessons Learned and Consequences to Industry and Public Health Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Hearing 10:00 a.m. in room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building Connect to the Video Webcast (128 kbps) http://energycommerce.house.gov/membios/schedule.shtml5CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2008, 08:19:03 AM » |
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Sorry, Texas "beef" was supposed to be a joke, meaning the possible source of
the problem. Obviously the contamination is occurring in produce from somewhere.
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« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2008, 01:00:30 AM » |
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3cat you probably should have put the word (joking) in parenthesis after the texas beef statement.
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« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2008, 04:19:09 PM » |
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Now FDA believes Mexico grown jalapeno peppers are the source of salmonella: "WASHINGTON (AP) — Only jalapeno peppers grown in Mexico seem to be implicated in the nationwide salmonella outbreak, the government announced Friday in clearing the U.S. crop."http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-07-25-salmonella-peppers_N.htm?csp=345CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2008, 07:13:45 PM » |
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They had the article on Marketwatch, too. There was an interesting comment left by a reader. http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/fda-warning-narrowed-mexico-jalapenos/story.aspx?guid=%7BE2D58A02%2DFAE9%2D4296%2DBB63%2DEBA9DC650820%7D&dist=hplatest"Read the article - Mexico, not New Mexico, is believed to be the source of contamination. I do not believe that the FDA protected any tomato growers and I do not believe that the FDA is protecting any Jalapeño pepper growers
As a microbiologist I have been following this story from the beginning also and I have no love for FDA, USDA or CDC but I recognize the difficulty of narrowing down the source of the illness. My major concern is that none of these agencies came out with a public announcement for the obvious - wash your vegetables before preparing them. All along I have been posting suggestions that people wash their vegetables before preparation. I always wash any produce that comes into contact with the earth before preparing that produce for consumption.
It is easy to stand on the sidelines and throw darts at those trying to resolve a situation, but in this case, I believe that everything reasonable was considered. I remember from an old professor that botulism will kill you but salmonella will make you wish you were dead. Salmonella food poisoning is not at all comfortable, but it kills very few. Follow precautions similar to those you would use in preparing chicken including washing before preparation for consumption and you will go a long way toward avoiding a Salmonella food poisoning experience. " |
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« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2008, 07:24:01 PM » |
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I was just reading about the Mexican Peppers. I don't think I've ever seen those little stickers on peppers so even though they've cleared the US ones, it's not going to help the growers or consumers . . .
Klondike, does washing really get rid of Salmonella? I thought I read in one of the posts here that you shouldn't use cold water, and wouldn't you need an anti bacterial to kill a bacteria? I appreciate what the commenter is saying, but really now, our food is just getting WAY TOO TOXIC. When you have Salmonella growing in the produce like the spinach, I don't think it should be tossed back on us to wash out veggies. . . . .
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« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2008, 07:53:36 PM » |
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Maybe those microbiologists stick together at bit.  I'm thinking you could wash most bacteria off a pepper if you use veggie wash soap. I think the warning about cold water is regarding washing warm peppers from the field with cold water...that it might draw stuff into the plants cells before you could wash it off. I use not warm, but room temp water. It shouldn't be this way, but it is. http://www.boston.com/travel/articles/2007/09/23/from_radios_to_imodium_d_tips_on_what_to_pack/That product helped me survive paralytic shellfish poisoning...way scarier than salmonella for the average person. |
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« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2008, 07:04:06 AM » |
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That sounds right. Bean counters and lawyers running things. We're doomed, for sure  . 5CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2008, 07:17:35 AM » |
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rofl, but in this case, a single coherent agency seems to provide better
protection in other parts of the world. Maybe because there are fewer lawyers
and bean-counters to mess things up???
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« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2008, 07:24:51 AM » |
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3Cat, LOL, I shouldn't knock lawyers. DH's family is full of them. Makes for interesting family get-togethers, but sometimes gives me panic attacks. 5CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2008, 12:40:39 PM » |
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/07/30/fda.salmonella/index.htmlWASHINGTON (CNN) -- The salmonella strain linked to the recent outbreak has been found in irrigation water and a serrano pepper at a Mexican farm, a Food and Drug Administration official told lawmakers Wednesday. FDA investigators had been investigating a specific farm in Mexico, Acheson said, to look for signs of the Salmonella Saintpaul outbreak. "Two hours ago we learned that we had gotten a positive sample in both the water used for irrigation and a sample of serrano peppers from the same farm that match the outbreak strain," Acheson said.
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« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2008, 02:18:23 PM » |
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This is a different farm than the jalapeno and in a different area.
When I lived in CA, it was known not to drink the water or eat some fresh foods. That was 20yrs ago. Have things improved?
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