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« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2008, 10:10:34 AM » |
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Is the most likely contamination source here of whatever produce it is manure-contaminated
water used to wash produce? How hard can that be to find?
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« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2008, 10:27:38 AM » |
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it could be fresh herbs. And not just the Thai Basil or Cilantro. The farm I get herbs from grows many kinds. That might explain the people who are sure they didn't eat tomatoes or Mexican food . . . just a thought  |
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« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2008, 09:27:36 PM » |
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« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2008, 01:40:08 AM » |
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Glad they warned parents not to give jalapenos to infants.  I guess somebody might be. Hope they get this traced. It's not killing people but 1-3 days in the hospital costs a lot of money! Salmonella saintpaul is associated with turtles from what I read and last summer Congress freed the turtles again. (Unless that amendment was removed.) http://www.marlerblog.com/2008/01/articles/case-news/salmonella-turtles-attack-in-33-states/"It what must rank up there with one of the more stupid moves by Congress (I know there are many), on May 2, 2007, according to Senator Mary Landrieu, “in A 93-1 vote, the United States Senate today passed S. 1082, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Revitalization Act, which includes a key amendment offered by Senator Landrieu, that would lift the current ban on the sale of baby turtles in the United States.” The Senator goes on to say:
"My amendment frees Louisiana's turtle farmers from outdated FDA regulations that have crippled them for more than 30 years," Senator Landrieu said. "This is a great success for our agriculture industry, and I am proud that I could work with the Senate leadership to get this key provision passed. I urge the House to follow the Senate and pass this legislation so that the President can sign it and our farmers can have the freedom they need to provide safe and healthy turtles to America's children and families.""GAWD do these people have no brains whatsoever? Sure lets give these lethal turtles to everyone so the salmonella is spread far and wide. And what about the other pets in the house - won't they then be exposed to the salmonella too? No problem - we have 3 people that drop dead everyday from salmonella so what's a few dozen pets a day - just a drop in the bucket to the people that sit on their duffs and think up these (feel good) ways to placate people but on the flip side possibly killing them off also IMO. And remember do not buy any pet turtles no matter how badly you child wants one - it might be toxic to your living environment. |
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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2008, 01:42:15 PM » |
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http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-fi-salmonella18-2008jul18,0,6323839.storyTracking produce proves complex By Annys Shin, The Washington Post 10:47 AM PDT, July 17, 2008 The salmonella outbreak of 2008 may go down in history as the case of the missing tomatoes. More than six weeks ago, the Food and Drug Administration issued a warning about a salmonella outbreak in New Mexico and Texas connected to raw tomatoes. Since then, the agency has expanded the warning nationwide and added jalapeno and serrano peppers. More than 1,100 people have fallen ill since April, but not a single contaminated tomato or pepper has been found. Investigators said the complexity of the produce distribution system has been their biggest impediment, and some produce industry leaders agree that tracing fruits and vegetables could be easier. Though the technology to do so already exists in the form of bar codes that appear on nearly everything we buy, it could take as long as five years before the entire food industry applies it to food safety.
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« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2008, 01:49:53 PM » |
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Homeland Security came about after 9/11/01. If we give them a little time to get up to speed, say sometime in 2002. Add the 5 years. It should have been in place last year.
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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2008, 03:29:04 PM » |
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http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/3226873/According to North Carolina on Thursday, July 17, 2008, it's jalapenos and avocados: State officials on Thursday announced a recall of jalapeno peppers and avocados distributed
in North Carolina following two positive salmonella tests from a Charlotte food distributor. ...
Salmonella illnesses are common; North Carolina has some 2,000 cases each year. But those usually come
from raw eggs, undercooked chicken or simple errors such as a child drinking out of a dog bowl - not
a single-source contamination that has spread nationwide in recent months.Maybe salmonella-contaminated pet food needs to be added to this list.
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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2008, 04:34:53 PM » |
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Maybe North Carolina should pitch in and help the inept FDA find salmonella.
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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2008, 07:13:07 PM » |
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This could be a local problem in North Carolina and may not be related to the nationwide outbreak. At the end of the article it states that there is no immediate sign that it is the same strain of Salmonella. If it were, there would be no reason not to make the connection. Perhaps further tests are being done. It could be the big break in the nationwide case if it proves to be the same strain. It is interesting that the original distributor to the company in North Carolina is in Texas, which, I believe, has had the most cases of Salmonella of any state.
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« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2008, 05:25:55 AM » |
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3Cat, I emailed that NC link to Lou Dobbs last night as he's the only one I know of that follows the story daily. Also, found an article from USA Today about a poll that was taken. Hummmmm, there's a COMMENT BOX following the article. "Poll: Tomato scare has Americans avoiding some foods"http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-07-18-poll-food_N.htm?csp=345CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2008, 04:40:39 PM » |
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http://www.wral.com:80/news/state/story/3232969/Here's a new link to the North Carolina story. Now they're talking about both Saintpaul and oranienburg salmonella strains as well as suppliers Grande Produce, of Hidalgo, Texas, and Charlotte-area food supplier El Campo Produce Inc.
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« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2008, 04:58:18 PM » |
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Louise Schiavone reports almost nightly on the salmonella outbreak. Here's what she reported last night: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/07/17/ldt.schiavone.tomatoes.cleared.cnnTonight, she said that the number of reported cases is 1237. She also mentioned North Carolina and Texas. 5CatMom =^..^ = |
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« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2008, 09:59:57 AM » |
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At this point, it looks like a possible Texas "beef" subject to correction and findings elsewhere.
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