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Author Topic: Hallmark/Westland Meat--Waterboarding Slaughterhouse--Recalls 143,383,823 lb  (Read 5416 times)
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2008, 05:29:19 AM »

I saw the waterboarding and forklift truck prongs prodding a "downer" cow.  How sickening!  I also heard the audio clip from the USDA spokesman, saying there should be no mad rush for people to rush to their kitchen freezer to toss out the product -- low to no risk.  Mind you... this garbage meat has been out there since Feb. 2006, and most has already been consumed.  What some companies/industries won't do for a buck without a care for laws or human health!

And, remember folks, this was a voluntary, Class II recall...  And, remember, we slaughter our cattle for human consumption at around 24 months of age.  Mad Cow Disease (BSE) usually doesn't show outward signs until cattle reach between 3-8 years of age.  Has anyone ever wondered why we slaughter cattle when we do?  We don't test all cattle for BSE, FAR from it, so how would we know?

When the burger is a favorite meal and often a staple of the U.S. diet in many homes, wouldn't you think the U.S. citizens would demand BSE testing of every cow slaughtered?  Wouldn't you think our government would want to make sure the meat its citizens eat is safe? 

It's a NO-BRAINER that OTHER COUNTRIES are REFUSING U.S. BEEF!  I'm glad there's a video to show that downer cattle are making it into the human food supply!  The Mad Cow Disease prions cannot be killed by cooking.

I'm sick of corporate greed at the expense of human health and safety!  How many more people will have to get the human form of Mad Cow Disease before we finally enforce testing and regulations?

The candidate who steps up to the food and product safety challenge has MY vote!
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2008, 05:34:52 AM »

News Flash:

The President of Westland says that he is "shocked and horrified".  How many times have we heard that?

Purringfur, exactly!  How much BSE would they discover if the cattle were kept alive for a few more years?  It's just sickening.

Way to go USDA! You guys don't have a clue, and yet you know that the meat is safe.  What a bunch of morons.
 
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2008, 05:41:31 AM »

Here's the NBC story on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPXJFQ87Omc

And here's video from Humane Society of the US.  Upper right hand corner, after the commercial:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4305151&page=1

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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2008, 06:24:27 AM »

The news clip was sickening to watch. But it was hardly surprising considering the way things in the food biz are run today. I eat very little beef anyhow - now it will be no beef. And I am removing it from the cats' meals too. Sardines- anyone? Maybe just maybe this latest fiasco will be the big wake-up call that gets the USDA off their lazy corporate-bribed butts.  Angry
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2008, 07:50:06 AM »

And I am removing it from the cats' meals too.

Same here.  My cats never had beef until just a couple of years ago, because I never trusted it.  However, I discovered that a beef-and-chicken food was one of the few canned varieties one of my pickier cats would eat, and that opened the door.  When the current supply of beef canned foods is gone, no more (poor kitties.)  When farmers' market season comes, I will have access to grass-fed humanely raised local beef, and I may try to brew up something home-cooked for my cats from that.

Now I will need to scrutinize the dry foods I have to see which ones contain beef also.

I am more glad every day that I do not eat meat myself!
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2008, 08:01:09 AM »

Didn't we determine at some point that rendered products go into kibble rather than canned?   

I've started to lose it here (information overload), but I think I asked that before and someone explained it.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2008, 08:49:23 AM »

Even if the canned pet food doesn't contain rendered products, the beef referred to in this thread was not rendered--it was sold as "human-grade" frozen beef.  So this and similar products could be in canned pet foods, even "premium" ones.  Therefore I do not trust the beef in the canned, either.  This was the company that got caught.  How much do you want to bet that many others do the same and just haven't been exposed yet?

A little off-topic, but:  Can't someone start a business importing pet food made in Europe?  They must make pet food there, right?  And I keep hearing how much higher their standards are than ours.  (Of course, I would not take their beef, either.)
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2008, 09:06:28 AM »

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How much do you want to bet that many others do the same and just haven't been exposed yet?

Now that I have calmed down to almost sane. Probably more than we would want to know. I mistakenly believed that the USDA inspected ALL the meat processing plants on a regular basis, that there was a USDA inspector there when cattle where slaughtered, and they had to stamp the damn things, with the blue stampy thingy. Apparently NOT.

NO clue how many others are out there and haven't been caught yet, wonder why the HSUS went to this particular one??

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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2008, 09:09:27 AM »

Even if the canned pet food doesn't contain rendered products, the beef referred to in this thread was not rendered--it was sold as "human-grade" frozen beef.  So this and similar products could be in canned pet foods, even "premium" ones.  Therefore I do not trust the beef in the canned, either.  This was the company that got caught.  How much do you want to bet that many others do the same and just haven't been exposed yet?

Yes, but I was thinking about the recalled product.   That could go into rendering.

So, now we have excluded beef for our pets.  Poultry, too?  Thinking about the recalled meat being rendered and fed to poultry.

http://itchmoforums.com/recall-nonpet-food/hallmarkwestland-meatwaterboarding-slaughterhouserecalls-143383823-lb-t3615.0.html;msg45649#msg45649
From the USDA page of questions and answers referred to in menusux post above:


       Q. Can the recalled product in the Federal food and nutrition programs be further donated or used as pet food?

A. No. The Federal food and nutrition program product must be destroyed by placing it in a landfill, incinerating or by inedible rendering

     A search to find out what "inedible rendering" actually was produced this explanation -


      "The inedible rendering plants produce tallow and grease, which are used in livestock and poultry feed, soap and production of fatty acids."
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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2008, 09:30:08 AM »

Re: dry vs wet PF:

http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1

Dry Food

"The vast majority of dry food is made with a machine called an extruder. First, materials are blended in accordance with a recipe created with the help of computer programs that provide the nutrient content of each proposed ingredient. For instance, corn gluten meal has more protein than wheat flour. Because the extruder needs a consistent amount of starch and low moisture to work properly, dry ingredients — such as rendered meat-and-bone-meal, poultry by-product meal, grains, and flours — predominate.

"The dough is fed into the screws of an extruder. It is subjected to steam and high pressure as it is pushed through dies that determine the shape of the final product, much like the nozzles used in cake decorating. As the hot, pressurized dough exits the extruder, it is cut by a set of rapidly whirling knives into tiny pieces. As the dough reaches normal air pressure, it expands or “puffs” into its final shape. The food is allowed to dry, and then is usually sprayed with fat, digests, or other compounds to make it more palatable. When it is cooled, it can be bagged.

"Although the cooking process kills bacteria in the ingredients, the final product can pick up more bacteria during the subsequent drying, coating, and packaging process. Some experts warn that getting dry food wet can allow the bacteria on the surface to multiply and make pets sick. Do not mix dry food with water, milk, canned food, or other liquids.

"A few dog foods are baked at high temperatures (over 500°F) rather than extruded. This produces a sheet of dense, crunchy material that is then broken into irregular chunks, much like crumbling crackers into soup. It is relatively palatable without the sprayed-on fats and other enhancers needed on extruded dry food.

"Semi-moist foods and many pet treats are also made with an extruder. To be appealing to consumers and to keep their texture, they contain many additives, colorings, and preservatives; they are not a good choice for a pet’s primary diet.

Wet Food

"Wet or canned food begins with ground ingredients mixed with additives. If chunks are required, a special extruder forms them. Then the mixture is cooked and canned. The sealed cans are then put into containers resembling pressure cookers and commercial sterilization takes place. Some manufacturers cook the food right in the can.

"Wet foods are quite different in content from dry or semi-moist foods. While many canned foods contain by-products of various sorts, they are “fresh” and not rendered or processed (although they are often frozen for transport and storage). Wet foods usually contain much more protein, and it’s often a little higher quality, than dry foods. They also have more moisture, which is better for cats. They are packaged in cans or pouches."

So basically it's the way some dry food and semi-moist is made which brings the rendered meats into the picture.  I use FRR and that's baked at high temps.  The pieces are irregular, as if you broke a cookie; no rendered meats or by products in FRR.

The link below is interesting as it also tells what happened to the inedible fats that used to be used for soap:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendering_(food_processing)

"In the early 20th century the low cost of synthesis of artificial nitrogen fertilizers undermined the economic use of animal waste to enrich soils. This resulted in the loss of a substantial market for meat by-product solids. But this lost market was replaced by the realisation that these products made good feed for animals. After World War II synthetic detergents came on the scene which eventually displaced soaps for both domestic and industrial washing uses. Thus, in the early 1950s over 50% of the inedible fat market disappeared. Diversion in these materials into animal feeds soon replaced the lost soap market and eventually became the single largest use for inedible fats."

So the recalled beef is not allowed to go directly into pet food as meat, but it can go in there indirectly through rendering.

If you are using a dry food, any labeled as Kosher would be free from the rendered material as above, because it would be impossible to say that the renderings did not contain non-Kosher animal by products.  AFAIK, Evanger's is certified Kosher--know this is true for their canned products, and am assuming it's also so for their dry.
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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2008, 10:40:29 AM »

It is unfortunate that the beef has apparently been sent to our children's school lunch programs as the true effects may not show for many years down the road----"vCJD" is a real and serious problem that could arise from this and more people need to be outraged and start sending those emails and editorials and letters and phone calls as this is just another example that this country is very unprepared for any food disaster, human or animal foods!

variant Creutzeldt-Jakob disease is one I am sorry to say I saw first hand and was fatal.  There is no cure--And there is no excuse for people to acquire this through their food!

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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2008, 10:54:46 AM »

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as the true effects may not show for many years down the road

Exactly, also find it hard to believe the recent statement from the FDA concerning not labeling GM, irradiated, etc. Something like this, public has been consuming this for years with no adverse effects.

What they don't say is that no one has done a study on health related issues due to consumption of the above. what a crock of crap.

None of what we see here will manifest for years, and then no one will know why, no one is going to remember who had what for lunch 20 years in the past, duhhhhh

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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2008, 11:14:41 AM »

They just had 5 people possibly die of CDj in Indiana last year;

http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/06/mad-cow-disease-in-indiana.html

and my good friends father died of CDJ 8 years ago when he was 42, she said it was very painful to watch him fade.
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2008, 11:20:46 AM »

Related to pet food ingredients, these are the things that caught my eye in the original post at the top of this thread:

- Various weight boxes of “HALLMARK MEAT PACKING BEEF SMALL INTESTINES.”
- Various weight boxes of “HALLMARK MEAT PACKING BEEF LIPS.”
- Various weight boxes of “HALLMARK MEAT PACKING BEEF SPLEENS.”
- Various weight boxes of “HALLMARK MEAT PACKING BEEF SALIVARY GLANDS, LYMPH NODES AND FAT [TONGUES].”
- Six-gallon containers of “HALLMARK MEAT PACKING BEEF BILE.”
- One- and six-gallon containers of “HALLMARK MEAT PACKING BEEF BLOOD, .2% SODIUM CITRATE ADDED.”

It looks like these are boxes and jugs of frozen products.  Maybe I am naive, but I don't know of any humans who eat beef spleens and salivary glands, etc.  (I know the French eat a lot of weird stuff like tripe but I have never seen a recipe for beef spleens in a French cookbook.) Sounds to me like this would be headed directly for the pet food industry.  And since it's "fresh meat" (not rendered down), it would be headed for the canned food, I'd guess.  Unless it's on the way to the rendering plant, but I did not think they bothered to sort that out and box it up; thought they just scraped it all into 50-gallon drums or boxcars or something  Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2008, 11:26:18 AM »

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but I did not think they bothered to sort that out and box it up;

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Guess it has to do with protein content, probably more or less in lips, spleens etc. They would then be sold at different prices. Troubling here that so much of this is ALREADY in circulation and much of it has been eaten, like I wrote above, who is going to remember in 20 years what they had for lunch or if they consumed any of this.

Seems to be a pattern here of allowing some to get literally get away with murder by passage of time.

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