Used it with Kandie she enjoyed it .... decent ingrediants and price but great avail

I have a great vet who even said to try raw that she did not carry .... I have a great organic butcher who since it is for the "fur kids" gives me a big price break...

I never thought organs were weird cause grandma feed them to the fur kids raw and cooked( now I cant stomach cooking organs )

Yes friend s who DO NOT have pets or they are just a cat or dog do think it strange I spend some much time $$ and effort on my fur kids ...

Zoey likes alot .... when i get the new kitties I will go back to chn feed as it is more economical

Well check up today

Gigi has a ear infection the first in 2 yrs , prior to that it was continual and conventional vet wanted to do surgery .... she is going to switch meats ( I think her rotating intolerence showed back up_

Ben WOO HOO doing well unfortunately vet does not want to start weaning the phenobarbital just yet ...

Kandie ate the OLD senior formula for a while with good results she just tired of it ... The new formulas puzzle me $$$$ for what = to be low end premium... they keep adding more and more grain products

who is making it as last I heard MENU did make Wellness s canned food>>

I tried them and Zoey loved it and then threw up ...she only ate the gravy..

I try to rotate my home made girl( dog if it matters ) every 8 to 12 weeks on the meat choice...most of the time that fixes boredom right up ...i have been doing homemade for about ten yrs in different animals and it truely is trial and error for rotation

My vet has a Masters in companion animal nutrition so the coursework is even there just most arent wanting it 

Per www.barfdirect.com s calculator ... a 10lb cat / dog they do not differentiate species that want s to maintain current and is fully grown... 4 oz of raw is the recommendation... for 19 lb it is 7.6 oz .48 of a lb ( for slight loss 6 oz ... with just the two on just raw my bill was under 6 a week for premade that was "complete"

http://www.barfdirect.com/catalogs/store.asp?pid=173798&catid=27349 is the calc;)

Raw feeds eat way less... my cat at 5-7 oz but with CRF she needed to add wt continually... my yorkie ate 4-5 oz ... right now Ben is working up to all raw ( yippy for my $$s ) to gain wt 2 cups XXX dry and 24 oz raw ... He is 75 needing to add about 10 lbs

 

that is great JUST check where the origin of the organics is ... MANY are coming from CHINA

Well mine have been itresteing the last say three yrs

KANDIE Rip May 21 2007 - went from later stage to CRF to early stage two crf numbers on a 50/50 -75/25 raw/ canned diet ... her passing was quick and she never qualified for reg fluids ... she gained nearly 3 lbs of the 5 she lost from crf ... Her meds were herbs and whole food supplements .... at the time of her death the ER clinic thought she was about 12 she was just shy of 19

Gigi - problem child for all 7 yrs I have had her ...She was diagnoised with atypical Cushings officially may 28 2007 ... she was on a raw diet with some grain containing kibble ... I added supplements and thing s got worse ... well thru research and MOMS gut we went back to homemade /.// she get some grain free kibble and lots of varying degrees of cooked meat and redid the supplement s... WELL she has a much less swelled liver , clear eyes with less goop , almost no itching and the energy of a two yr old.. she is 12

Ben - Recently adopted .... took him off all grains for his epilepsy and added herbs and accupucture ... outside he is more alert less hyperactive and more responsive ... goes next week for check up ... he is eating 50 grain free dry and raw with supplements and the dreaded pheno

Zoey - has the best coat vet has seen ... well she eats one grain free and one grain containing dry with a taste of raw and homemade as she permits... she is only 4 so there is hope

Thank you ... I am sorta doing the human version and you could say taking an appoarch of this to my yorkie ...

yeah that is the one with odur issues

?? is did NO ONE suspect this ?? I think not since it has had a NO COPD warning ( ie folks with lung issues) from the time it hit the market

I totally agree... it used to be just grocery that did that now it is ALMOST every manufacturer yet if you look up the actual LAWS that is the PET food companies DO NOT have 6 months to change bags without some kind of notification