Thank you JustMe, and Thank You to all of you, for your prayers and well wishes for my little one. As soon as I have all the lab work to prove my case, I will post all of it on Itchmo. Karee is fighting for her life. Your prayers will help her keep up her struggle.
God Bless you all, for caring enough to reply.

PMM, Karee, MyMy, & Pixie(GA)

Zukes treats.

We are in a very rural, remote area, south and east of Albany, NY. The closest "anything" is a 42 mile round trip. That includes anything, as in heaven help you if you need some milk. The last I dared look was on the 23rd, when I had to go to town, on a cat food run. It was $4.079 and $4.99, (at another station on the other end of town). Every day it goes up around three cents. I asked, a one station, how high the price may go. The station owner told me that he feels it will easily hit $5.00 or more, by the end of the month. 
BTW, Fancy Feast, in the local grocery, ( a well known chain store. Don't know if I am allowed to say the name;), is now $0.65 plus tax, per can. The closest Wal-Mart, (the least expensive FF around here), is $.55 + tax per can, (from $.41 within a two week period), is just over an 80 mile round trip, and the closest chain Pet Stores are about a 100 mile round trip. Basically, around here, if you can get to the store, you have no money left to buy groceries, because you used all of it to fill your gas tank.
PMM

Thanks for the link JustMe. Here is a link, for those who may not have it, to The Merck Veterinary Manual.

http://www.merckvetmanual.com

I find the manual very helpful. Every vet has one, or should have one. It has just about everything in it, medicines, diseases, symptoms. Just give yourself time to get used to searching it. It is a very big book. With this you can check all meds, their dosages, diseases, anything that there is. And, it is free to use.
PMM

I appreciate all the input. The issue being, I do not dare put her on anything else. Even if I could, I do not have a clue what it would be.
I gather from the posts that this food can be used long term. It came with a booklet that gave me the impression it was not for long term use. But, my vet said it was OK. As those of you have posted that your pets are on this type of special diet, and doing well, I guess I can put that fear to rest.
Thanks again for the input. It is greatly appreciated.
Karee has a major surgery coming up. A final attempt to repair the brutal damage that was done to her. She has to be at the top of her game.
PMM

OK Don, Now I understand what you are saying. You are referring to her blaming China, and I am referring to her admitting our pets were killed. As long as the bottom line of big business is all that matters, we as the general public, do not have a prayer. The only part of her statement that hit me, and the part I was referring to, was when she said, that 'our pets were killed by the poisoned pet food.' Of course as an American politician, she would blame China. When has an American politician ever taken responsibility for anything? The fact that our pets were poisoned, by this horrendous act of greed, I, personally, needed to hear it stated, publicly,from someone high up in the government. I know the statement was used to gain support. I know the admittance was not for the sake of honesty, or any concern for our animals, but to try and gain votes. But, it was admitted, no matter how. Thousands died. Not just a few. I, personally needed to hear it said on an open forum, in front of the world.
This past January I lost my last survivor to it. I have not posted about it yet, because I still cannot write without loosing it completely. The lovely girl pictured in my avatar, my precious Pixie, left to join her sister and brother on January 29th. There is nothing that can console me.
As for the mess in Thailand, in 2004, well, the toxic food was here way before that. Pets were dying here from it, but no connection was ever made. The toxic food was here long before it was discovered in Thailand. I have an unopened can of it. I am to poor to afford to have it tested, but, someday I will. I went through a long battle with vets, the FDA, etc., to no avail. It was a cover up all the way. Ultimately, what I was saying, finally claimed the life of my two Shelties, just 48 hours apart. I hear you Don, and I agree with everything you say. Please understand, I just needed to hear someone validate that our precious furkids were killed by poison pet food. We all know the US will never take the blame, as of course they should. I, personally, have lost all faith in everything and anything that has to do with our government. To be honest, I lost it long ago. I cannot say to much here, publicly, but, until you have had the Feds in your home, telling you to shut up or you will disappear, you cannot get a true grasp on what really goes on in this country. And no, it does not happen just on TV, or in the movies. if you would like to have details, please PM me, and let me know. I will gladly PM you, and share.
There are laws behind the laws that have yet to be addressed. Until they are, no matter what changes, if any are ever made, occur, the jeopardy will still exist. Back in the 80's, when we had the veterinary hospital, we had a large animal hospital ward for horses. I had my own horses as well. I alone was in charge of everything that went on in the large animal wards. The horses in hospital, as well as my own, were on a top name brand sweet feed at the time. Molasses will clump. Even the tiniest ball, because of the nature of the molasses, will heat up and the interior can become moldy because of this. It is just the nature of the molasses. Whenever I opened a new bag of feed, I would manually go through every spec of it. If I found a ball, I would break it open to make sure it was not moldy. The tiniest bit of this mold can cause a horse to colic so severely, it could die. Extremely toxic. OK, this particular day, I did not find any mold. Instead, I found the entire bag was laced with shards of broken glass. Had I fed it, every horse would have died. I of course called the company. Because I had 'vet' status, I was connected with one of their attorneys. He was brisk and could have cared less. He told me that they would do nothing, and basically, I could do nothing. If the horses died, they could care less, and I had no recourse, as they are protected by law! He was very forthcoming about how the glass got there. The law protects them, so he really did not care. The glass was probably, he said, from recycled bottles. I asked him to explain how it got into the food. He said BY LAW they are not required to clean out the trucks they transport animal food ingredients in. So, if broken shards remained in a truck and they got into the feed ingredients, so be it. He told me that they had no desire to change their policy, and I had no way to call them to task for this. He said it kept their costs lower. I checked. He was right. So, any food ingredient, can theoretically become contaminated by anything toxic or dangerous, that was shipped in a truck, before the pet food ingredients are shipped in it. This whole things is so much deeper then has ever been brought to the publics eye. I of course went to other brands, and along the way, found glass many times. Also found some other weird things. I was fortunate, as I was able to switch over to locally grown oats. For almost 20 years, I mixed my own feed.
My point being, that even if the government was to make laws as to what is acceptable for pet food, and what is not, the laws on the books still leave us wide open for contamination. If say a shipment of pure clean rice for pet food, is shipped to a plant in a truck that had just delivered a load of weed killer, well, the weed killer would be in the ingredients because the 'law' does not require the trucks to be cleaned out before pet food ingredients are loaded into it and shipped. Until the clean up starts from the bottom up, until the US public becomes the main concern, and not the bottom line of big business, we all remain at their mercy.
I love my country, with all my heart. But, I despise her government.
Please know Don, I am on your side. I understand far more then anyone knows, what has gone on, and what is still going on.
PMM

Don
I am fully aware, of what you state in your post, and I agree with everything you said. However, I do not think you understand what my point is. This is not about politics, or how we have been sold out by our government and big business.  It is about the fact, that for me, this is the first time I have ever heard anyone, this high up on the political ladder, admit what happened actually did happen!
Because it came out of her mouth, people heard it. To me, I have finally heard an admission that what we know as truth, is truth. To me, I feel validated by finally hearing the truth, announced world wide.
I am sick and tired of tiny numbers of dead being stated, I am tired of it being shoved under the rug, I am tired of it being denied.
All I wanted was some big wig politician, somewhere, to admit, to the world, it happened.
That is what she did.
I guess we have to agree to disagree.
PMM

I am so sorry for your loss! It appears not only your vet, but the emergency clinic, to was clueless. There is no excuse for this, none at all! You have a solid case against the vet. This is an absolute horror! My heart breaks for you and you wonderful kitty that is now gone. Report the vet to your local and to your state VMA. And to the AVMA. They will go after the vet. They look upon these things, with great distain. He could loose his license. At the least he will probably be suspended and given a hefty fine. In the thousands. They do not fool around. Not in NY anyway.

Ace is nothing to play with! That dose is insane!

Here is a link, for those who may not have it,  to The Merck Veterinary Manual.
http://www.merckvetmanual.com

Below is the link that will take you directly to the page on Acepromazine.
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp

When you open the link, toward the bottom of the page, there will be three results. Click on the third one, Table: Tranquilizers and Sedatives without Analgesic Effects. It will bring the table right up. This is the master book that all vets use! There is no excuse for what happened to your kitty.

I find the manual very helpful. Every vet has them, or should have them. It has just about everything in it, medicines, diseases, symptoms. Just give yourself time to get used to searching it. It is a very big book. With this you can check all meds, their dosages, diseases, anything that there is. And, it is free to use.
I am so saddened to hear of this tragedy.
PMM

So happy to hear Lucy Belle is well on the mend! That is wonderful news!!!!:)
I am thrilled for both of you!:)
PMM

petslave wrote

"Ingredients don't look all that bad for a vet food, no meat by-products at least!"

Also no soy, corn or wheat, etc. But, as I am not sure in this area at all, I had to ask for input.
Thank you so much for replying.
PMM

lesliek
Thank you for your reply. You are, of course, absolutely correct. I have no choice, and this food, so far, is working for her.
So sorry to hear about your cousins Rottie. I hope he is doing well. It is such a wicked disease.
Thanks for the reality check!;) I really did need it!
PMM

My Pom has developed pancreatic issues. She is a backyard breeder puppy mill  rescue. My vet thinks it is probably genetic, because of all the inbreeding. I tend to agree with him. (missing enzymes, etc.) Where we do not agree , is he wants me to feed her Purina EN. It is a prescription food, only available from a vet. OK, she was very ill. Took her right in of course, she was treated immediately, and along with a probiotic powder, I was given Purina EN. I had no choice but to offer it to her. She would not eat anything! She likes it, and eats it. The ingredients are water, beef, and brewers rice, and something called 'egg product'?, in that order. Plus allot of words I cannot pronounce. She has improved to being quite normal, all systems go right now.
She was on a wonderful diet of home cooked using fresh turkey. However, fresh turkey is no longer available in any stores around here. She cannot tolerate any other meat. Frozen turkey or frozen ground turkey, make her sick. Just fresh turkey. Believe me, I have tried. The EN contains beef, but, she does not react negatively to it at all.
This is the first store bought dog food in my home since Minky and Julie died from toxic dog food. If anyone is using this food, or has any information on it, I would greatly appreciate your input.
Thanks.
PMM

Comfort, support, and BIG healing prayers from me to Nutz's Mom and to the entire family. Parents, depending on the generation they are from, (like mine), were raised to believe doctors were Gods, and to never question them. I found this so true with my own mother. She adored her surgeon, and thought he was it, and refused to let me question him or get involved in any way. End result? She had cancer of the bladder. It was operable, and should have gone very well. The first thing I wanted to get, in writing, is a statement from the doctor stating he/she will do the surgery and NO one else! If you read the fine print in the paperwork you sign in the hospital, it sayd your doctors name, and/or ANY surgeon that happens to be available!! Long story short, my mother would not let me into any of it. She hid it from me completely, until the day she was going in to the hospital!! Long story even shorter, her wonderful doctor went on vacation, and had his inexperienced assistant do her surgery. He twisted her gut, and killed her.
I share this to encourage you to go, weather she likes it or not. Ask for answers. Ask for statistics. Ask him/her to sign a statement that they will do the surgery. They love to use the elderly and the poor as training tools. OK, so I have had enough experience with doctors, both human and animal to have become a complete synic. Doctors lie. Not all, but the ones that are to full of themselves. I know from personal experience. I am almost blind today because of one such doctor.
Go for it Nutz!!! Your Mom is terrified. Have patience with her. Encourage her. I am a breast cancer survivor. How I handled that is a whole 'nuther story. Let's just say I left no stone unturned. It is the only way.
God Bless all of you in this journey you are embarking on. We will pray for your Mom to have a complete and successful outcome.
PMM

kaffe
JustMe
I am so happy you found it informative. My knowledge is limited to certain areas. If sharing the information I do have will help, I am more then happy to do so. I have learned so much here, about things I had no clue to. The sharing of information with each other is so important. One of the wonderful things about these forums, is  someone always knows the answer to your question. The input by the members is amazing.
Spaying is a 'good' surgery'.  A skilled vet can handle anything that comes along. 'Phantom's' owner has an excellent vet. A vet should inform you if there might be an issue. He/she should tell you every possible thing to look for, and what to do if it happens.
As an owner you have a right to be informed. A good vet will take the time and answer and explain anything you wish to know about. Of course, without the input from Itchmo members, we would have allot less to inquire about. I know I would!;)
PMM

"Beware of incompetent vets" Truer words one cannot speak.
That said, first, I am so sorry to hear about your kitten.Your feline specialist sounds like he is on the right track with her. I hope she recovers quickly and completely.
I would like to add my two cents about spaying, or any surgery. Nothing is ever routine. The general public is not usually in the surgical suite, so of course, they have no way to know. Before I was disabled, I was a veterinary surgical assistant for almost 30 years. So, I feel I can give you a little insight. The bottom line is you need a qualified surgeon, who has not become insensitive to the fact that no surgery is ever routine! In the case of spaying a female, the bladder takes allot of abuse, and is very vulnerable throughout the entire surgery. I would gladly describe the surgery, but some members may not be comfortable with that type of a graphic description. The first thing that is done, after the animal is asleep, is the bladder is manually expressed to make sure it is empty. if the vet is not careful, and is not paying strict attention, they will hear a pop. They just popped the bladder. Now, when they open to spay, the first thing they have to do is suture the bladder closed. The bladder is handled, moved, pulled, throughout the entire surgery, it is basically on top, and everything goes on underneath it. Bruising or damaging a bladder is very easy to do if you are not careful. Any of the above can cause the symptoms, (except for the crystals), your kitten is exhibiting.
The crystals could have been in her bladder from birth, possibly from her mom. But, as you never saw any of this behavior before she was spayed, I would not jump to the conclusion it is due to the crystals. To me, and again, this is just my opinion, it sounds like her bladder was traumatized during the surgery.
I will pray for her to have a speedy and complete recovery. You are a wonderful, caring owner. You reacted quickly and got her help. Bless You, and Good Luck!
PMM