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1  General Pet Information / Misc/Other Pet Discussions / Re: Spoilt Western cats endangering global fish supply on: Today at 12:58:22 PM
I think I'll wait until I finish my Bailey's...  Cheesy  Grin Grin
2  General Pet Information / Misc/Other Pet Discussions / Re: Spoilt Western cats endangering global fish supply on: Today at 12:41:44 PM
I vote you write and explain the histamine in those Nutro cat foods and explain how bad that fish had to be...
3  Pet Behavior and Health Questions / Help With My Sick Pet / Re: Sophers is limping on: Today at 12:40:23 PM
rofl.. I'm seriously considering the Bailey's ad... bailey's slurpee LOL.. or peaches & cream slurpee...
one for me, one for the cats.
4  Pet Behavior and Health Questions / Help With My Sick Pet / Re: Sophers is limping on: Today at 12:07:33 PM
Glad to hear she's home & .. restricted Sad  sigh, right, it's a cat. (ETA: You might think about a crate/cage like JM has her kitties in for limiting Sophers activity)

I was worried about a ruptured cruciate ligament. (Yup, worry wart here, once had a dog, Dingo, have one... & it's the main reason Scooter aka Miss NoGrace, doesn't have many launching places.)

Did he give you any tranquilizers?
5  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / Your Problems with Pet Food / Re: Is there another big problem brewing out there? on: Today at 10:24:42 AM
"It is not unusual though for cats to suddenly decide they are tired of something either. Occasionally we have customers that will switch to another of the flavors for a bit and when they switch back their cats are very happy so you may try that approach."

What Azmira said fits Scooter to a "T", even with her "adored" FF. Gourmet Chicken is on the refuse list, Liver & Chicken is the one she wants or the Wellness Chicken & Herring. That choice will change with her in about 2 weeks. Fish high on the ingredient list will make MK turn up her nose.

Things like this are why it is so hard on pet owners.. and why we didn't know in a hurry that we fed adulterated foods in 2007, or ever, for that matter. "Off their feed" was for good reason then and we didn't know it.. and we don't have the instinct our animals do.. add that facet in (their ability to sense some problems).

IMO, We are in worse shape than ever. 

The pfcs won't recall like they did before IMO, much less before that settlement agreement is finalized. Stealth, I'd bank on it. Denial, I'd bank on it. And, I think they know how to make us doubt and make others doubt us.

Trust? It's out the window and we're each having to intimately get involved with our pets' eating patterns & habits.

Now, all we have are doubts and fears.. and the pfcs better figure that out.

If Scooter barfed, I'd absolutely put up a warning on the food. Would anyone believe it? Not unless you knew that Scooter has not barfed since I got her August 2007. Period Ever. Would I freak, absolutely. MK hasn't barfed since August 2006. Would I freak, absolutely.  Ling, is a scarf & barf and can't eat much fish and can't eat much beef...a label reading would calm me with her barf.

Start diaries if you have a cat that barfs/refuses. Set regular bloodwork tests. It's the only way you can work out your cat personality & the food issues.. as well as to be used if needed to counter the bs from pfcs.




6  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / Your Problems with Pet Food / Re: Is there another big problem brewing out there? on: Today at 06:45:55 AM
Chicken & Herring 5.5oz
Best By 30 Jan 11
7WCHS4 13:58

When Scooter is fed Wellness, it's from the same case/lot #s.

She & Ling both eat this. MK refuses it.
7  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / Your Problems with Pet Food / Re: Wet food for kittens on: Today at 06:32:13 AM
Here's a link I've used before -YMMV:

http://cats.about.com/od/cannedfood/tp/kitten_canfood.htm
8  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / News (Recall Related) / Re: Pet-food recall leads to 6,000 claims and counting- USA Today on: August 26, 2008, 06:35:58 PM

I wonder how many have opted out of this settlement? 
9  General Pet Information / The Den - Show Off Your Pet Family / Re: How many kittens will Sassy have? on: August 26, 2008, 01:52:39 PM
That is so precious!!  Catmom you certainly have done a great job making them comfy sleeping quarters and obviously have Sassy feeling safe with your caring nature.

In the bottom pic on left side - The tortie sleeping nose to nose with sibling and one in the middle of them sprawled across the buddy pillow LOL..  The one on the right looks like a "big boy" and a smaller one stretched out above "him". (For some reason I have it in my head that torties have mostly boys..)
10  General Pet Information / Law and Politics About Pets / Re: Non Recall Pet Food Evidence: do you have samples left? on: August 26, 2008, 09:32:56 AM
How about Big Lots or Family Dollar stores? Any of those kinds of stores around?
11  Pet Behavior and Health Questions / Help With My Sick Pet / Re: Sophers is limping on: August 26, 2008, 07:31:21 AM
Scooter & MK would like to remind Sophers that payback has its own rewards ...

MK said the strawberry soda can that she intentionally knocked over was full and cold and sticky. The look on her mommie's face was worth one payback for one dose of the gooey meds in that was put in her eye.

12  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / News (Recall Related) / Re: Pet-food recall leads to 6,000 claims and counting- USA Today on: August 26, 2008, 04:57:23 AM
Carol,

I think any pet owner that fed the adulterated food will feel guilt for years to come. But, IMO, it's guilt for "not knowing" about pet food ingredients and the sleezy pet food company & manufacturer attitudes. We believed the advertising and we were too trusting.

Now, we see the public relations "experts" taking the drivers seat and we recognize it for what it is, their denial of responsibility, and their ways/words trying to keep us believing the advertising and pretty pictures and "safe", "nutritious".

We've all got the ugly, heart breaking pictures of sick & dying animals in our heads to censor the manipulation thrown at us from the industry & their lobbyists.

We still feel the shock and the grief and the guilt from that experience. And we also feel the sense of helplessness, still, as they overpower us with dollars & media to prevent any problems from being brought to light.

I would say to anybody don't let the guilt keep you from applying for financial recovery. It doesn't mean you have to forgive & forget.

If the settlement had said funds left over went to testing, I'd have been more accepting, but animal welfare programs don't address the cause behind the law suit - food & pet food companies.

If it bothers you, get the funds and contribute a % or as much as you can afford of it to testing programs and make the funds recovered from the pet food companies work to do what it needs to do - test the foods - make it work for a safer future for our pets.

For some, the recovery of expenses might help give their health damaged pets vet care for the best quality of life for as long a time as they can.

All we can do now, is pay it forward.


 




13  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / News (Recall Related) / Pet-food recall leads to 6,000 claims and counting- USA Today on: August 26, 2008, 04:02:08 AM
By Julie Schmit, USA TODAY

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Almost 6,000 claims have been filed in a class-action settlement stemming from last year's massive pet-food recall.
Menu Foods, other pet-food makers and retailers in May agreed to set up a $24 million cash fund to compensate pet owners whose cats and dogs became sick or died after eating food that had a contaminated ingredient from China.

The filing period for claims began May 30 and will run until Nov. 24.

"I expect that number (of claims) will go up a lot. There's quite a bit of time to go," says attorney Sherrie Savett of plaintiffs' law firm Berger & Montague.

The Food and Drug Administration never identified how many pets were affected, but it received more than 17,000 complaints.
14  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / Pet Food Testing / Tests back on Nutro Cat Food on: August 26, 2008, 03:44:35 AM
cross posted:

from Nam1026

http://itchmoforums.com/news-recall-related/nutro-cat-wet-food-made-my-cat-sick-t5485.0.html;msg82833#msg82833

http://itchmoforums.com/news-recall-related/nutro-cat-wet-food-made-my-cat-sick-t5485.0.html;msg82856#msg82856

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One sample had 0.031 ppm of ethoxyquin, another had 30 ppm of histamine and 1.36 ppm ethoxy, the other 0.033 ppm ethoxy-these were Nutro salmon and tuna samples and the store samples they picked up also had both of the chemicals.
15  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / News (Recall Related) / Re: Nutro cat wet food made my cat sick on: August 25, 2008, 12:10:10 PM
The bacteria in bad bug book:  scombrotoxin
(histamine in fish)

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~mow/chap38.html

FDA Warning Letter June 2008
http://www.fda.gov/foi/warning_letters/s6825c.pdf

Tonite I'll look back and see what I can find with earlier dates.
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