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1  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: "greed... is good" Gordon Gekko is coming back to life on: November 20, 2008, 11:16:36 PM
Conservative is right unless you can withstand a huge loss on your 401. Moved mine over a year ago into income generating. Not much interest paid but better to make a lil every quarter than to lose and keep on losing. Anyone thinking market is gonna make some huge rebound and go back towards 11,000 should not be in the market - your gonna lose it all thinking that. They can sell you a good game but once you take the bait the market will suck it all out of you and only ones making any money will be brokers off of the trade amounts and broker fees - not you. The  market dropped again today so look for them to pump it up on friday as is usual for the weekend to possibly cover up any banks tanking on fridays - usually after the trading day is well over. Kinda like the pet food recalls at 2 am or later so no news went out as everyone was asleep.
2  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: "Distributed by" labels on: November 20, 2008, 10:56:44 PM
I too read that about organics in china. Have no faith whatsoever and sorry that Whole Foods saw that they needed to throw support to these products. Is it to appeal to their asian consumers and keep them shopping in the stores? Only products I buy there have to be from right here in the USA and state so, bred, born, raised and slaughtered right here not any other place. Anything the store has that says MIC or any other asian place I leave it. Not taking chances with mine or my dogs health. No such thing as organic from there - gawd if probably has plastic in it to make sure the protein content is up to speed.
3  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: Plastic additives leach into medical experiments on: November 20, 2008, 10:12:10 PM
But they just said the plastic in your babies bottles that you give them milk and juice in is safe and does not leach into the food - NOT! Better switch to glass or corelle which is made from ceramic not clay that may have lead in it. Even wonder how safe those new plastic baby bottle are that claim to be with this new finding of plastic skewing test results from leaching into the experiments.
4  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: Patenting Pandora's Box - dangerous stuff on: November 20, 2008, 10:04:32 PM
More on Micheal Pollan's advice to the next president.  The president-elect did refer to this article in a speech.  I just hope he truly considers it.  After all of the preceeding gloom and doom, I am happy to end my posts to Pandora today with this glimmer of sunshine:

http://www.ecoliteracy.org/publications/michael_pollan_farmer.html

Farmer in Chief
By Michael Pollan

Michael Pollan, a contributing writer for The New York Times Magazine, is the Knight Professor of Journalism at the University of California, Berkeley. He is the author, most recently, of In Defense of Food: An Eater's Manifesto.

Dear Mr. President-Elect,

It may surprise you to learn that among the issues that will occupy much of your time in the coming years is one you barely mentioned during the campaign: food. Food policy is not something American presidents have had to give much thought to, at least since the Nixon administration – the last time high food prices presented a serious political peril. Since then, federal policies to promote maximum production of the commodity crops (corn, soybeans, wheat and rice) from which most of our supermarket foods are derived have succeeded impressively in keeping prices low and food more or less off the national political agenda. But with a suddenness that has taken us all by surprise, the era of cheap and abundant food appears to be drawing to a close. What this means is that you, like so many other leaders through history, will find yourself confronting the fact – so easy to overlook these past few years – that the health of a nation's food system is a critical issue of national security. Food is about to demand your attention.

Which brings me to the deeper reason you will need not simply to address food prices but to make the reform of the entire food system one of the highest priorities of your administration: unless you do, you will not be able to make significant progress on the health care crisis, energy independence or climate change. Unlike food, these are issues you did campaign on – but as you try to address them you will quickly discover that the way we currently grow, process and eat food in America goes to the heart of all three problems and will have to change if we hope to solve them. Let me explain.

Put another way, when we eat from the industrial-food system, we are eating oil and spewing greenhouse gases. This state of affairs appears all the more absurd when you recall that every calorie we eat is ultimately the product of photosynthesis – a process based on making food energy from sunshine. There is hope and possibility in that simple fact.

At issue is not only the availability of food, which may be held hostage by a hostile state, but its safety: as recent scandals in China demonstrate, we have little control over the safety of imported foods. The deliberate contamination of our food presents another national-security threat. At his valedictory press conference in 2004, Tommy Thompson, the secretary of health and human services, offered a chilling warning, saying, "I, for the life of me, cannot understand why the terrorists have not attacked our food supply, because it is so easy to do."

This, in brief, is the bad news: the food and agriculture policies you've inherited – designed to maximize production at all costs and relying on cheap energy to do so – are in shambles, and the need to address the problems they have caused is acute....The American people are paying more attention to food today than they have in decades, worrying not only about its price but about its safety, its provenance and its healthfulness. There is a gathering sense among the public that the industrial-food system is broken. Markets for alternative kinds of food – organic, local, pasture-based, humane – are thriving as never before. All this suggests that a political constituency for change is building and not only on the left: lately, conservative voices have also been raised in support of reform. Writing of the movement back to local food economies, traditional foods (and family meals) and more sustainable farming, The American Conservative magazine editorialized last summer that "this is a conservative cause if ever there was one."

There are many moving parts to the new food agenda I'm urging you to adopt, but the core idea could not be simpler: we need to wean the American food system off its heavy 20th-century diet of fossil fuel and put it back on a diet of contemporary sunshine. True, this is easier said than done – fossil fuel is deeply implicated in everything about the way we currently grow food and feed ourselves. To put the food system back on sunlight will require policies to change how things work at every link in the food chain: in the farm field, in the way food is processed and sold and even in the American kitchen and at the American dinner table. Yet the sun still shines down on our land every day, and photosynthesis can still work its wonders wherever it does. If any part of the modern economy can be freed from its dependence on oil and successfully resolarized, surely it is food.

Would be so nice if this is really going to be considered. But DMS with all the huge factory farms out there - will they fight this tooth and nail? It may be too late for them to fight it anyway as more and more are turning to organic, local, grass fed, etc since trust in the food supply is been deeply shattered. The article above says what a lot of people are doing and feeling.
5  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: Patenting Pandora's Box - dangerous stuff on: November 20, 2008, 09:52:59 PM
Now, keeping in mind that no in-depth scientific environmental safety study was done before the GM sugar beets were planted and harvested, look at this chastisement from Growers for Biotechnology regarding how careful the media must be in checking credentials before writing articles so their work will be scientifically sound?Huh Roll Eyes

http://www.growersforbiotechnology.com/

GM Reporting Should Rely On Real Expertise
October 29, 2008

GM Reporting Should Rely On Real Expertise
- Robert Wager, SciDev.net, Oct. 16, 2008

When it comes to evaluating the safety of genetically modified (GM) crops and food the world should rely on experts with good credentials. The media can, of course, add words of caution from critics. But it must be clear which opinions come from detailed knowledge and training, and which may be driven by other agendas.

Evidence-based reports showing the low risks associated with GM crops are scarcely reported. For example, there was little, if any, coverage of the International Council for Science 2004 report. It stated that there is no evidence that current GM crops damage the environment, or that consuming foods containing GM ingredients harms people.

[maybe because of those missing studies and evalutations]

The media must also stop presenting claims that we know nothing about the long-term hazards as being unique to GM foods. A recent European Union report points out that little is known about the long-term health effects ofany food, including GM.

[yeah, okay.  that's a good argument.  we don't know anything about any food humans have been eating for centuries, so let's just eat whatever biotech creates.  very scientific.  and let's give no credence to any scientist who disagrees with our unsupported, proprietary safety claims.]
So now we will have to see if the pkg states sugar cane or organic sugar cane and if it does not then have to contact the mfr. and ask what kind of sugar is in the product. I'm sorry I do not wish to consume weed killer in my sugar - NO THANKS!
6  Other/Misc / Recall (Non-Pet Food) / Re: (Melamine Suspected) Chinese Officials Say Baby Formula Tied to Kidney Stones on: November 20, 2008, 08:47:51 PM
Trust them to do their own inspections - GMAFB. They have lost any trust from the pet parents thats for sure and look at what has happened to the food that was for their very own infants/children. And they want to test the stuff now. Nah, we can't go back and give up on refusing milk containing products from that country. Stop the stuff at the ports and if its tests by the inpsectors and labs right here in the USA then it might get onto the shelves of the stores. If not then send it back with a lasered mark on the whole thing that can't be repackaged and slipped into another port to try and pass off the same cwap again and again til it gets thru. WE DON'T WANT ADULTERATED, POISONED, TOXIC loaded stuff whether its food or hard goods.
7  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: FDA to open China offices after product scares on: November 20, 2008, 08:32:27 PM
Rubber stamps - long time since heard that. But also wha a waste of time and money. And for what? Do they really think something going to come out of this - HAH!
8  Pet Behavior and Health Questions / Help With My Sick Pet / Re: Lesliek's little Remy needs prayers on: November 20, 2008, 08:14:51 PM
lesliek what a day from hell is right. Your friend was lucky your concerned and checked on her and also caring for her lil Sheba. Plus your own problems going on. Such a long time to wait for the home phone to be fixed that is enough to give you high stress. Hope the wine calmed your nerves and will allow you to relax. Maybe a hot bath with some soothing music playing in the background will enable you to get a nights rest too. We know you'll post the results once your able to obtain them from the vet who is out of town tending to his family.
9  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / Pet Food Questions and Researching Foods/Ingredients / Is carob OK for dogs? on: November 20, 2008, 07:53:44 PM
lesliek please post those two sites. I would be most interested in reading what you have found. I do give my dog cookies that have carob so if it is a danger would appreciate the links to read this. Thx.
10  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: Government considers 85 billion bailout/socialization of insurance giant AIG on: November 20, 2008, 07:25:43 PM
The cat is out of the bag as they saying goes and now they want to appoint agencies to provide direction and oversight for these places that thumbed there noses at rules, regulations, etc and just continued to break them and make their own and now the whole thing is crumbling around them and they are going to do better next time? WTF are the existing rules for when everyone just chose to look the other way and let them get away with financial murder? Now we have no  jobs, no one having money to spend, homeowners going belly up, credit cards maxed out and will be bellied up next. The game is over, it is so over. Give it up already.

Instead of placating and trying to make it seem like you're gonna do the right thing (HA HA) create jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. Thats what is needed - not more rhetoric.
11  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / News (Recall Related) / Re: Scheduled 11-18-08 meeting to reveal latest human melamine science data on: November 20, 2008, 06:54:42 PM
3cat at the end of your post it states that they would exchange the latest scientific data on the toxicity of melamine in humans. I was just pointing out that with all the new numbers and increase of kidney problems it just might very well be from the plastic in the food and there are plenty of candidates to gather data from without sickening anyone else with the toxin.

And your right 3cats - anyone out there should post anything going on with this new workshop and its aftermath. But probably will be done in secret and only good results reported to make us all feel 'so safe'. Gawd it makes one want to puke as it sounds like placating and business will go on as usual as long as there is money to be made. Follow the money, its always about the money, the money never lies.
12  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / News (Recall Related) / Re: Melamine or Salmonella? Spectrum's Chinese Supplier Has Them Both on: November 20, 2008, 06:16:26 PM
Once the tainted pet treats surfaced never again bought any that were MIC or not organic, produced/manufactured right here in USA. Or I made my own with carob. Now carob I've seen has soy in it-yech.
13  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / News (Recall Related) / Re: Scheduled 11-18-08 meeting to reveal latest human melamine science data on: November 20, 2008, 06:07:25 PM
They have plenty of people they can check on, run tests, etc. - the huge increase in kidney problems in this country - what is it now 30%? They have plenty of people that quite possibly got their problems from the plastic in the milk powders, milk products, milk itself (from asian stores), and all the processed food or should one say all the 'cardboard food' (the containers majority is sold in) and take those people. They do not need to expose anyone else to plastic and see how they react.
14  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / News (Recall Related) / Re: Mars Petcare closes Muscatine plant, Four More To Close on: November 20, 2008, 05:48:20 PM
straybaby I believe the one near me produces the candies, etc. But you never know, it could produce pet food but kinda doubt it unless the demand for candy with unknown milk products in it falls off the cliff.
15  Other/Misc / Recall (Non-Pet Food) / Re: 11/12/08 FDA Detain Notice - includes pet foods on: November 20, 2008, 05:03:36 PM
Goes right back to buyer beware. Maybe the pocket books staying shut over here are having an effect that no law, ruling, etc. could ever have on places that would think nothing of poisoning our pets or anyone else IMO.
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