Actually non-dairy has casein in it as a binder, which is a milk product, also used in white glue, forget the reason that it is considered non-dairy. Interesting isn't it, dairy product that is considered non-dairy

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I would like to play one for all my fellow mods. They have done a great job this week, behind the scenes. They have stopped many, many spammers and bots from entering the forum and have kept us all safe. I am honored to be one of them, for the small amount of time each day that I am on.

thank you all

Joe Cocker, "you are so beautiful"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJxt0Cg52I&NR=1

one of my favs

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Poco

Thanks anyway and yes we the taxpayers always get to pay for the screwups

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3cat

Thanks

Will go get some milk for her coffee

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Poco

Thank you for the post, however I don't understand any of it.
Could you translate that into something that us common folks will understand. I know you know this stuff and have been warning us for months and months about this. It all sounds like ponzi schemes, different ways to launder money, different ways to move/shift funds, increase leverages etc.

please

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DMS

Don't you know by now that we are all a bunch of over the top, lunatic fringe, crazy people.

Who by the way predicted this happening last year, when we saw what was happening and knew it was just a matter of time until the melamine made its way into the human food chain.

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Arlo

I believe those are not "banks" in the traditional sense. Like I had mentioned some can be leveraged way beyond the point of idiocy. A 60:1 ratio is impossible to maintain, only the absolutely greedy morons who can be protected by the govt and banking lobbyists could ever think of getting away with it.

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5cat

Thanks

I really do believe that in the US it is "supposed" to be by law 9:1, of course that is banks, maybe these other institutions aren't "banks", maybe financial institutions, or whatever they are called nowdays. They may not have the same controls on them, not that controls were effective or enforced anyway.

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5cat

From what I have read and understand I would beg to differ. There actually is no leverage ratio that can be determined. Typically the banks create wealth electronically, they could be 100:1 or even more, there really is no way of telling. If it was just 30:1 I believe that it wouldn't be as bad as it is. I would guess more in the are of 80-100:1.

Interestingly by law it is only supposed to be 9:1
Any of you out there that know more about this, please comment, I don't mind being corrected

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Is that here in the US or just in Taipei??

I read it too and am confused


By the way, what about non-dairy creamers?? Wife uses them in her coffee??

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Nabiya

Thanks for the info

Just looked and found some pizza hut cheese powder, doesn't say where it is made but has a plant # of 06-610, then found some other brand with the same plant number, so they all go in the trash, no have to toss them outside in the garbage so that the big goof Thanka doesn't get them out of the garbage can.

there is a supplier ID of 00000386-02 a GIN# of 0015954 and the plant# of 06-610. Packed exclusively for Pizza-Hut Dallas,TX

I wish I knew what any of that means, no COOL or any reference to anywhere it is made, it does say that it contains milk.

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Melamine had been around a long time, very useful commercial substance, used for all kinds of things that in no way would indicate that it would in any way shape or form be suitable for food.

I wonder who the [edited] genius was that came up with this to be used in food.
(testing bad word filter)

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purringfur

That should give everyone an idea of what this stuff actually is. Tough, resilient plastic that has industrial, and commercial uses. This should tell everyone that it does not belong in food of any kind, pet or human or livestock.

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Great Idea 3Cat, I will tell the wife to keep an eye out for products in shortage

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Basically forti-flora is a probiotic. So any probiotic that you can get down your pet is pretty much about the same. We use the ones by Nature's Sunshine, have been using them for years on the dogs and cats. The dogs will usually eat the capsules, the cat gets it on her food. No matter which ones you buy make sure the bacteria are live. Difference in price is dramatic, forti-flora is really pricey and you can get the same results for much less. Try a health food store and ask for probiotics.

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