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16  Pet Food Info (Menu Foods, Iams, Purina, Hills, Ol'Roy, etc.) / News (Recall Related) / Re: DDG's in Pet Food on: October 02, 2008, 04:58:10 PM
Crap like this makes my head explode

db
17  Pet Behavior and Health Questions / Help With My Sick Pet / Re: Lesliek's little Remy needs prayers on: October 02, 2008, 04:54:20 PM
Prayers and good thoughts for Remy and Rufus

db
18  Other/Misc / Recall (Non-Pet Food) / Re: (Melamine Suspected) Chinese Officials Say Baby Formula Tied to Kidney Stone on: September 30, 2008, 06:03:55 PM
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Do the Chinese hold the real ownership in all these corporations?

Catbird

I don't believe that they own them as much as the leverage they have over many countries, such as our own. I think the Chinese have wisely invested in the debt of many nations and can leverage that over them.

Agreed, no level is acceptable.

db
19  Other/Misc / Recall (Non-Pet Food) / Re: (Melamine Suspected) Chinese Officials Say Baby Formula Tied to Kidney Stone on: September 30, 2008, 05:48:23 PM
What is it with all these countries back peddling??

I wonder what happened between last week and this week to have them change their collective minds??

It really is quite simple, melamine should not be in food, period.

NO LEVEL IS acceptable, the effects are cumulative, even the FDA is now admitting to that

db
20  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: FSIS Constiuent Update COOL labeling Sept. 29, 2008 on: September 30, 2008, 04:32:29 PM
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Does this say what I think it does? Do nothing for violations, period?

Looks that way until April of 2009, which means basically that they have AGAIN postponed the damn thing another 6 months. This is been the pattern, postponing this now for near 6 years. Compliance appears to be voluntary until 4/2009 and then we will see what kind of BS they come up with then

db
21  Other/Misc / Recall (Non-Pet Food) / Re: (Melamine Suspected) Chinese Officials Say Baby Formula Tied to Kidney Stone on: September 29, 2008, 06:52:10 PM
I have kidney stones. I always assumed it was from the desert Southwest hard water. I can tell you the pain
in an adult is exquisite. I wonder now as to the cause. Maybe in my sixth decade, I can give new meaning to
rock and roll.

That would be funny if this all wasn't so tragic for babies and pets and the human community. Undecided Angry

3cat

You raise an interesting point. The guy that works right behind me just had an attack of stones, 28 years old. Always eating snack things, who knows.

I am sure the CDC doesn't keep track of this, or maybe they do and just don't tell us if kidney stones are on the rise.

db
22  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: FSIS Constiuent Update COOL labeling Sept. 29, 2008 on: September 29, 2008, 06:43:38 PM
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What's magical about six months and changing a label?

3cat

Actually it is been more like 5 years that they have been screwing around with this, they keep putting it off,

aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

db
23  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: Garlic and organic veggies from China. on: September 29, 2008, 06:12:56 PM
db maybe product of usa means the company was incorporated here? That way they can claim that title and process their stuff in other countries, then ship it back here and sell it.

Or what if the company is incorporated here but has branches in other countries, then they can ship it back and forth and it always stays with their company??

db
24  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: Garlic and organic veggies from China. on: September 29, 2008, 05:58:03 PM
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I wonder if the minced fresh ginger and garlic in the jars can be labeled USA if it is only processed and packaged in the USA and grown elsewhere.

Catbird

Or grown here and processed elsewhere??

like fish grown here and processed in China

Unless you get it local you never really know.

I don't understand the criteria for product of USA??

db
25  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: For all those of the Jewish faith............... on: September 29, 2008, 05:51:08 PM
Me too

db
26  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: Garlic and organic veggies from China. on: September 29, 2008, 04:26:19 PM
OH quit whining and buy fresh garlic, sheesh Grin

Now I have to check and find out where wife gets the granulated stuff. We have a bunch of fresh but it is nice to have some granulated around the house too.

db Grin
27  General Pet Information / Misc/Other Pet Discussions / Re: question about Sophers weight on: September 28, 2008, 06:11:37 PM
WOW, that calculator is way off for my guys, according to that I should be feeding about twice what I am feeding now. Probably has to do with breed too.

db
28  Other/Misc / Off Topic (No Politics) / Re: Government considers 85 billion bailout/socialization of insurance giant AIG on: September 27, 2008, 08:46:48 PM
DMS

Actually quantum physics isn't that difficult.

Basically it deals with the movement and existence of very small things, like atomic particles. It is based on theory and science.

OTOH, this financial stuff neither exists nor performs. It sounds like some weird stuff where you take a dollar bill and fold it 20 times and then have 20 dollars, or cut a dollar into 60 pieces and have 60 dollars. All these violate the laws of science, the individual parts of a whole can not be 60 times greater than the whole.

No wonder it collapsed.

Now I'm confused again

db
29  Other/Misc / Recall (Non-Pet Food) / Re: (Melamine Suspected) Chinese Officials Say Baby Formula Tied to Kidney Stones on: September 27, 2008, 05:17:02 PM
3cat

take a break if you need one, but I personally don't believe you are ranting. You have posted links and have been quite level headed.

see you later

db
30  Other/Misc / Recall (Non-Pet Food) / Re: (Melamine Suspected) Chinese Officials Say Baby Formula Tied to Kidney Stones on: September 27, 2008, 05:07:00 PM
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which no one has ever studied long term

that is the point, no one has but will they now??
or will this be the SOS, don't worry be happy

db
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