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« on: October 22, 2009, 08:42:24 AM »

A question was raised in another thread, so I thought I'd start a new thread.
This is what I've found so far:

"But what about our dogs and cats? Can they catch or spread H1N1 (Swine) flu to each other or members of their human family? Most likely, the answer is no. This is to say that to date there are no known dog/cat to human (or vice-versa) influenza transmissions."

http://vetmedicine.about.com/b/2009/09/18/can-my-dog-or-cat-get-swine-flu.htm



"Q:Can my pet get the 2009 H1N1 virus?

A:To date, there is no evidence that cats or dogs are susceptible to this new strain of influenza; it appears to be transmitted only from person to person or from human to swine. On October 9, 2009, a USDA laboratory confirmed 2009/H1N1 infection in a ferret. The ferret's owner had previously been ill. At this time, there are no reports of 2009/H1N1 flu being transmitted from a ferret to a person.

The best advice is to always follow common sense guidelines when dealing with animals (eg, washing your hands). In addition, it's more important than ever that pet owners keep a good eye on their pet's health and consult a veterinarian if their pet is showing any signs of illness. Keeping your pets healthy reduces their risk of becoming ill."

http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/new_flu_virus_faq.asp

ETA: Somehow this line makes me giggle, though I know what they mean:
Keeping your pets healthy reduces their risk of becoming ill

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3catkidneyfailure
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2009, 10:35:14 AM »

Breaking news H1N1 flu virus confirmed in cat in Iowa! This virus has not been seen in cats B4. http://ow.ly/zdZM
Reported by the AVMA

H1N1 flu confirmed in Iowa cat

Schaumburg, IL
— A cat in Iowa has tested positive for the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus, state officials confirmed this morning, marking the first time a cat has been diagnosed with this strain of influenza.

The cat, which has recovered, is believed to have caught the virus from someone in the household who was sick with H1N1. There are no indications that the cat passed the virus on to any other animals or people.

Prior to this diagnosis, the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus had been found in humans, pigs, birds and ferrets



http://ow.ly/zdZM
The AVMA is actively tracking all instances of H1N1 in animals and posting updates on our Web site at www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus.


November 4, 2009
H1N1 confirmed in Iowa cat
A 13-year old cat in Iowa developed signs of a respiratory infection after several people in the household were ill. Preliminary testing was positive for 2009 H1N1 on October 29 and the results were confirmed on November 2. This is the first report of a cat infected with the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus. The cat is recovering from its illness. To date, there is no evidence that the cat passed the virus to any people.

November 3, 2009
H1N1 confirmed in commercial swine herd in Indiana.

November 2, 2009
The USDA has begun posting test results for domestic animals infected with H1N1.

To date, 2009 H1N1 influenza virus infection of pigs has been reported in Canada, Argentina, Singapore, the United Kingdom (Northern Ireland), Ireland, Norway, the U.S. and Japan. It has also been reported in turkeys in Chile and Canada. Based on the evidence available at this time, the infections were spread from humans to the animals. View the International Society for Infectious Disease's October 28 update on H1N1 infection of commercial swine in Iceland.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 10:43:35 AM »

http://www.avma.org/press/releases/091104_H1N1_Iowa_cat.asp

AVMA November 4, 2009

Schaumburg, IL — "A cat in Iowa has tested positive for the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus, state officials confirmed this morning, marking the first time a cat has been diagnosed with this strain of influenza.

"The cat, which has recovered, is believed to have caught the virus from someone in the household who was sick with H1N1. There are no indications that the cat passed the virus on to any other animals or people.

"Prior to this diagnosis, the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus had been found in humans, pigs, birds and ferrets.

"The American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) and the American Association of Feline Practitioners (AAFP) are reminding pet owners that some viruses can pass between people and animals, so this was not an altogether unexpected event. Pet owners should monitor their pets' health very closely, no matter what type of animal, and visit a veterinarian if there are any signs of illness.

"The AVMA is actively tracking all instances of H1N1 in animals and posting updates on our Web site at www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus.

"For more information, contact Michael San Filippo, AVMA media relations assistant, at 847-285-6687 (office), 847-732-6194 (cell), or msanfilippo@avma.org."
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2009, 10:48:09 AM »

This is exactly what I was afraid to see.....I worry about my Sophers with her immune system issues as well as her battle with the coronavirus....shoot!
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 10:49:04 AM »

this transferring from species to species is freaking me out...I wonder if the seasonal flu does too and we just know about it...  Huh
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3catkidneyfailure
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 10:52:04 AM »

Not good news for sure, Sandi, for anyone, human or pet.

Ferret has died & cat diagnosed w/H1N1 #pets #dogs #cats AVMA tracking H1N1 in animals & posting updates on Web site at http://bit.ly/COtzq

http://www.avma.org/public_health/influenza/new_virus/new_flu_virus_faq.asp
Further from AVMA website updated on Nov. 4. 2009:

Q: Can my pet get the 2009 H1N1 virus?

A:Until recently, we had no reason to believe pets could be infected with the 2009 H1N1 virus because it is very uncommon for flu viruses to jump between species. However, on October 9, 2009, a USDA laboratory confirmed 2009/H1N1 infection in a ferret. The ferret's owner had recently been ill with the flu. Ferrets are more susceptible to infection with influenza viruses, so this was not altogether surprising. At this time, there are no reports of the 2009 H1N1 flu virus being transmitted from a ferret to a person.

On November 4, the Iowa State Veterinarian and the Iowa Department of Public Health announced that a pet cat was confirmed infected with the 2009 H1N1 flu virus. The cat's owners were ill and the cat developed respiratory symptoms shortly afterward. The cat has recovered and there is no evidence at this time that the cat passed the virus to any people.

Pets that live indoors, especially cats, tend to have close contact with their owners – after all, that's why we have pets – and that increases their exposure to diseases. The best advice is to always follow common sense guidelines when dealing with animals (for example, washing your hands). In addition, it's more important than ever that pet owners keep a good eye on their pet's health and consult a veterinarian if their pet is showing any signs of illness. Keeping your pets healthy reduces their risk of becoming ill.

Q:I've heard about ferrets and a cat getting the 2009 H1N1 virus. Should I get rid of my ferret or cat so my family is protected?

A:Certainly not. This is not cause for panic and extreme measures. You are much more likely to catch the flu (any type of flu, including the 2009 H1N1 flu) from an infected person than you are from an animal. So far, all of the pets infected with the 2009 H1N1 virus became infected from being around their ill owners. The main lesson here is that if you're feeling ill and have flu-like symptoms, you should probably limit your contact with your pets until you are feeling better. As always, if your pet is showing signs of illness, it should be examined by a veterinarian.

Q:Can my pot-bellied pig get the 2009 H1N1 virus and give it to me?

A:To date, the 2009 H1N1 virus has not been reported in pot-bellied pigs. However, the possibility of human-to-pig transmission of the virus warrants extra caution by pig owners. After all, pot-bellied pigs are considered swine, and therefore may be susceptible to the virus. For the time being, a cautious approach would include all contact between your pig and anyone who is ill or has recently been exposed to an ill person. Remember that pot-bellied pigs can become ill from a number of causes, and keeping your pig healthy and free of disease helps protect your pig as well as you. If you have a pet pig and it appears ill, consult a veterinarian immediately.

Q:There are feral pigs in my area. Can they spread the 2009 H1N1 virus?

A: To date, the 2009 H1N1 virus has not been reported in feral pigs. However, pigs can become infected with the virus, and caution is recommended. Remember that feral pigs can spread other diseases, and it is best to avoid contact with them—this goes for you and your animals. Feral pigs are best left to the proper authorities to handle, so contact your local animal control office if you need to report a feral pig problem.

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 10:59:09 AM »

If we are able to stay away from people with the flu, our pets should be okay.  I know that is easy for me to say since I work at home and DH is retired.  My plan is to just go out for groceries and necessary people/vet appointments.  Avoid doctor's office and reschedule appointments that can be put off without health risks until early 2010. 
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 11:06:18 AM »

Vaccine objections aside[big aside I understand], if one were vaccinated, then three weeks later, after immunity fully develops, still using
good health precautions, should be okay for those working away from home. My problem is I can't get vaccine to date, just pneumonia and seasonal flu. Just thoughts from one consumer and open to all discussions.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2009, 11:09:09 AM »

My age group in my state will not be offered the vaccine anyway....that is per governor the last I read.  May be offered months down the road next year.  So, that takes the decision out of my hands.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 12:20:56 PM »

That really sucks. My age group hasn't been offered the vaccine yet as they are still concentrating on the most vulnerable population. Even if I got the vaccine, dh believes in natural selection and won't be getting it, so cats wouldn't be safe anyway. Fortunately, he pretty much lives downstairs and doesn't so much with the cats.

ETA: I was just digging around the Internet on influenza in cats, other strains that have affected them and H5N1 (avian influenza) is one of the strains that has killed cats in 2006. The WHO has a little article that suggests the vector for the H5N1 was raw poultry fed to cats.

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2006_02_28a/en/index.html

Now I know that you can't get H1N1 from pork, and I don't think anyone is feeding their cats raw pork, but I wonder if it would be possible for them to get it from H1N1 infected poultry. A news segment I saw said that H1N1 doesn't live in muscle tissue, so I wonder if the WHO meant LIVE, raw poultry.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 01:13:05 PM »

Some limited info (of unknown source and quality) for dog and horse owners from a Reuters article on this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5A33ZG20091104
"Dogs and horses also can catch various influenza strains, although none have so far been diagnosed with H1N1."
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2009, 03:02:35 PM »

We appear to have two threads going on related to H1N1 being confirmed in a cat.  I am going to merge the two together; the thread will be in "Pet News."
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2009, 04:18:03 PM »

So its because people are using the nasal vaccine that its jumping to cats?  These people with the cat had the actual flu I thought and its what transferred..not the vaccine..my DH did say he worries about that because when it jumps to another species it can then form into a different virus...anyhow I's confoosed as usual...
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2009, 04:19:29 PM »

Thanks for the merge! There's a lot more to come here I'm sure.

I believe the theory is the nasal vaccine is made up of live flu virus that gives you a case of what you're protecting against to develop
immunity. The shot vaccine is done with a dead virus which your body then produces antibodies for. Have I got that right, virus
people? The live virus would therefore be capable of mutating faster?  And jumping to another specifies, like a cat? Is that a rough idea of the theory? Or am I just revealing my virus and vaccine ignorance?

http://pandemicinformationnews.blogspot.com/
(flu virus vaccines discussed)
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2009, 05:22:12 PM »

The cat that got the H1N1 was exposed to its owners who had the H1N1. No mention of being exposed to anyone who got a nasal vaccine.  I think it is a stretch to try to connect the two.  The seasonal flu vaccine has been available in the nasal form for a few years now and I don't recall any reports of it causing the flu in other species.  The nasal flu vaccines are a MODIFIED live virus, which means that it has been stripped of its ability to infect, but not of its ability to replicate just enough to confer immunity. Immune-compromised persons COULD possibly experience flu-like symptoms from exposure to someone who has gotten a nasal vaccine. But, they do not get a full-fledged case of the flu.  A side effect from the nasal vaccine for the person getting it is also the possibility of flu-like symptoms, but they do not get the flu itself. 
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