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Author Topic: Truth About Pet Foods: Consumer Funded Pet Food Test Results  (Read 20102 times)
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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2015, 07:30:40 AM »

Wonderful  Angry Angry Sad Pretty much everyone uses FF for sick cats & Friskies for ferals .
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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2015, 02:11:52 PM »



This is just one of the many manufacturing plants Purina owns and it doesn't appear that Fancy Feast is included in this report at all.  Most of it appears to involve dog food rather than cat food.  Of course, one doesn't like to hear about problems with inspections for any pet food, but this letter appears to be more about submitting proper paperwork than indicating that corrective measures were not actually taken.  

I also agree with Phyllis Entis about the adequacy of the Truth in Pet Food report.   Undecided





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« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2015, 05:49:29 PM »

Some details here

http://www.petfoodindustry.com/FDA_warns_Nestle_Purina_plant_about__significant_violations_.html

Violations include:

failure to process each low-acid canned food in conformity with at least the scheduled process filed with FDA
failure to identify, from a processor chack or otherwise, deviations from the scheduled process of critical factors which are out of control and failure to record these deviations in a separate log
failure to chlorinate or otherwise sanitize cooling water as necessary for cooling canals and recirculated water supplies
failure to establish a system for product traffic control in the retort room to prevent un-retorted product from bypassing the retort process
failure to install the mercury-in-glass thermometers in a location where they can be accurately and easily read
failure to have records of all processing and production signed or initialed by a representative of plant management who is qualified by suitable training or experience
Keith Schopp, a spokesman for Nestle Purina, said the company is confident there are no food safety issues or risks to pet health with the company's products. Schopp said officials are in the process of providing FDA with measures it intends to take to correct the production errors.

The FDA said it requires a written response addressing the alleged violations, and that "failure to take appropriate corrective action may subject your firm and products to further actions, such as emergency permit control, injunction or seizure."


Nestle Purina PetCare canned food products potentially impacted by the violations include:  

Alpo Chop House Originals Roasted Chicken
Friskies Indoor Chicken
Mighty Dog Chicken Egg & Bacon Country Platter
Mighty Dog Chicken & Smoked Bacon Combo
Alpo Chop House Originals Filet Mignon
Mighty Dog Lamb and Rice
Friskies Mixed Grill
ProPlan Senior Beef and Rice Entrée
Friskies Salmon Dinner
Alpo Chop House Rotisserie Chicken in Gravy
Alpo Prime Cuts with Beef
Alpo Chop House Originals Filet Mignon
Gravy Sensations with Turkey and Giblets in Gravy
The FDA warning letter, dated January 2, 2015, gave Nestle Purina 15 days to provide adequate evidence of corrective action. Failure to correct violations, including methods and controls to prevent the violations from recurring, may result in injunction or seizure of product.

http://www.dogingtonpost.com/nestle-purina-commits-significant-violations-at-pet-food-canning-plant/
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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2015, 06:00:50 PM »

I just bought Susan's list of acceptable foods. I have never heard of a single food on it, & I shop in high end independent pet food stores. This is frightening.
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« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2015, 06:27:04 PM »

I haven't seen the list in a couple of years, but there were mostly dog foods, and mostly regional and a lot of raw foods, as I recall, when I last saw her list.

I try to rotate between different brands of canned food, but I wouldn't be overly worried about Fancy Feast (my cats won't eat Fancy Feast, though).  I do use Friskies Mixed Grill for my feral cats, so not happy to see that one listed as possibly not produced safely.  There are more expensive brands, that I think might possibly be safer or have better ingredients, but I've donated so much food, that my cats just didn't want to eat.  Also, I have 5, and they rarely all agree on the same canned food.  Everyone does like Dave's Restricted Diet pork dinner (lower magnesium and phosphorus).  We don't have a medical need, and it's not prescription, so has to meet AAFCO minimums.  They just like it.  It's a change from the chicken things I buy.  2 of the cats love Soulistic chicken (from Petco) - fat content is a bit low.  I try to avoid fish.

Folks may not agree with the ingredients or company, but I use some Royal Canin cans, too.

Geff, have you tried any of the Precise canned (I think you said you fed the dry)? 
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« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2015, 06:29:08 PM »

I just fed Mixed Grill today.  My cats are eating mostly Friskies.  Very upsetting.  I will have to forward this information onto the feral group I adopt from that uses Friskies for fosters and colonies.  
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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2015, 06:41:31 PM »

They are indeed the violations.  But, when one reads the letter, it states that Purina responded to each one, but apparently their response was not satisfactory to the FDA because the documentation was not as complete as they wanted it. That is why I said this letter was more about submitting paperwork.  No excuse for Purina, but this letter really doesn't indicate that these violations are on-going.  This case has been made public here, but I don't doubt that these inspections at both pet food and human food manufacturers take place all the time and we never hear about them.  There would be no need for the FDA to even do inspections to keep the food supply safe if perfection reigned everywhere!  I'm glad they are there to find the violations and order manufacturers to make the corrections, but it is unrealistic to expect that no violations will ever be found.   Undecided    
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« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2015, 06:47:53 PM »

I just bought Susan's list of acceptable foods. I have never heard of a single food on it, & I shop in high end independent pet food stores. This is frightening.

IMO, no one should ever have to BUY a list of "acceptable" foods from anyone.  I know that Susan Thixton has a mission to try to help with keeping pet food safe, but that information should be made available for free if she were really concerned about what foods people are using, and not just using it as a source of monetary return.   Sad
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« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2015, 07:58:20 PM »

Some of the observations in the warning letter are referenced as having been discussed at an earlier (2007) inspection, so possibly FDA is less patient now.
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« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2015, 07:20:03 AM »

I don't agree with Susan Thixton on everything , but the list is paid by donation amount & can be bought for $5 . The money raised pays for her to attend , contribute to & report on AAFCO meetings. It's not to pay her for her time or effort .
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« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2015, 07:02:09 PM »

From the FDA letter, I think the one I would have some concerns about is the pouched Friskies Gravy Sensations Turkey and Giblets in Gravy. That one sounds like an actual disagreement in how they are processing it and whether that is considered adequate by the FDA. 
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