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Offy
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« on: July 09, 2007, 03:14:03 PM »

Here's a link to AAFCO that gives contact information by state about pet foods:

http://www.aafco.org/SummaryOfFeedLegislation/tabid/85/Default.aspx

I don't know how current they have it, but my contact is on there and was responsive.


I started at the Commissioner of Agricultures Office in my state. They gave me a contact that was really helpful in Animal Health who set up having my pet foods picked up for testing.

6/14/07 - The Field Inspector Supervisor just left my office.  They came and picked up the pet food to take to the lab and have it tested. Where I have two of the same lot numbers, they will retain one unopened for approximately a year. They do have the acetominophen in their testing protocols and have equipment able to detect it..

CAT FOODS:

Timberwolf Sergengetti (dry) opened & unopened. I didn't have the bag for the opened. My cats had eaten one bag, I ordered another, the 2nd, and put it into a container. They would not eat the 2nd bag. I had another bag on order. That 3rd bag came in and I wouldn't open it. The unopened bag is best before 20/apr/09 10:54 1220

Wet unopened:

Castor Pollux 2/Turkey Brown Rice & Chicken Best by Sept 21 09 350TS4 12:16

Natural Balance 1/Chicken & Liver Best by Oct 0306 NBCCL 00:42 &
1/Tuna w/shrimp Best by sep 2306 NBTCS 03:51

Neuman's Own 2/Turkey Best by 11/13/08 28CTS406 06:34 & 1/Chicken & Salmon best by 07/24/08 28CSS406 08:33

Wysong 2/Turkey Au Jus best by Nov0708 17TKS4 22:40

If they have time they will test them all, but I am particularly interested in Timberwolf.

No, there is no charge for the testing and they will send the results to my home.

I will post more info as I get it.

I have to say they have been some of the nicest, most knowledgable and most helpful people that I ever could have wished to have spoken to on this.

7/09/07 - Today  I received an email that my reports were in and had been mailed.

There was NO Melamine and No Cyanuric Acid detected in any of them. (When I see the list to make sure they tested all of the above, I'll update)

According to the Agriculture Department "Some of the products were deficient in protein and excessive in fiber". (When I see the list I'll post the statistics)

Interestingly an FDA person told them that NO FDA lab had been able to detect any acetaminophen in pet foods tested.  After speaking directly to the lab, they didn't even have the "fingerprints" and they got LC/MS recently, so I emailed them a reference to see if they could get them.  There appeared to be more openness after we had further discussions on this topic. My samples are frozen there for further testing (normal protocol).

These are the references to acetaminophen in waste water that is transformed by chlorine into toxins, and the library, if you encounter the same with your state agriculture department:
 
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/techbeat/tb2005_1222.htm#drugs

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/techbeat/tb2004_0928.htm#wastewater

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/techbeat/tb2005_1222.htm#library

(.."drug [acetaminophen] readily reacts in chlorine disinfection to form at least 11 new products, at least two of which are known to be toxic." "..Toxicants[are] 1,4-Benzoquinone and N-Acetyl-p-benzoquinone Imine [NAPQI]")

Searching out the transformations and what is in our ground water and waste water will awaken you to the extent of the polution problems.

http://www.hundredyearlie.com/fitzgeraldreport/2006/07/recycling_toxins_within_us_1.html

Acetaminophen and Sulfathizole are in the top 35 waste water contaminants. (see also : http://itchmoforums.com/index.php?topic=1058.0 for Sulfathizole)
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2007, 03:53:17 PM »

That's cool Offy!  How did you get them to test for you?  Did you have to twist there arm?

I'm interested in your results as my cats occasionally have a little bit of Serengeti and my dogs rotate with TWO Wild & Natural which I believe is actually based on Serengeti (smells like it).
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2007, 06:33:29 AM »

Actually, it was a surprise how much they were interested in doing it. No arm twisting at all.

I found most states do test pet foods. In Hawaii, instead of the agriculture department it is the health department.

What has me concerned is that these are high end foods.

Pet food companies are responsible for providing according to AAFCO standards and making sure our pets get healthy foods. 

For some of these to be deficient in protein ( Huh ) and have excessive fiber ( Huh ) would seem to indicate that they are NOT taking responsiblity for the quality of the products. And, it means the food in that can is NOT as advertised.

I also think as pet owners, it's in our best interests to address our state agencies and make sure they are overseeing the industry as best as they can.

Going forward, using consumer efforts at a state level for testing is one way to "police" the system and document the results.  I will definitely be having nutrition analysis done on commercial pet foods that become staples in my cats diets.

I thoroughly intend to be scanning these reports and addressing some pet food companies.

I had put together some other state annual test results (in itchmo) and will be looking for more on the same companies to establish if they are canned in the same place and the quality control/lack thereof for foods that are NOT meeting the nutrition labeling.
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2007, 08:57:20 AM »

THANK YOU,Offy
Look forward to seeing the report on the protein & fiber.FYI, I spent around 40 minutes trying to see about testing in Ohio.Closest I got was the pathology lab who said to send food to Michigan.But it doesn't hurt to check your own state.
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Offy
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2007, 03:14:59 PM »

CAT FOODS:

Timberwolf Sergengeti (dry) opened & unopened.
The unopened bag is best before 20/apr/09 10:54 1220

No Melamine No Cyanuric Acid

Here's the failure Timberwolf:
Under in Protein Amt Claimed;
Over in Fiber Amt Claimed;
Over in Fat Amt in Opened Bag; Under in Fat Amt Unopened Bag.

Label
Guaranteed:
              Opened Bag:   Unopened Bag:
Protein 38%.................29.87.....................30.23
Fat      18%.................19.70.....................17.45
Fiber      2.5%...............4.0........................3.29


Castor Pollux
2/Turkey Brown Rice & Chicken Best by Sept 21 09 350TS4 12:16
In Compliance
No Melamine No Cyanuric Acid


Natural Balance
1/Chicken & Liver Best by Oct 0309 NBCCL 00:42
In Compliance
No Melamine No Cyanuric Acid


1/Tuna w/shrimp Best by sep 2308 NBTCS 03:51
In Compliance
No Melamine No Cyanuric Acid


Neuman's Own
2/Turkey Best by 11/13/08 28CTS406 06:34 
In Compliance
No Melamine No Cyanuric Acid


1/Chicken & Salmon best by 07/24/08 28CSS406 08:33
In Compliance
No Melamine No Cyanuric Acid


Wysong
2/Turkey Au Jus best by Nov0708 17TKS4 22:40
In Compliance
No Melamine No Cyanuric Acid


Well, my cat had originally loved the 1st bag of Timberwolf, but the 2nd bag turned them off.
As far as the wet, my cats hated all of them - I donated the cases/cans to the human society.
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MarkH
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2007, 01:05:10 PM »

Well at least for the time being, some cat food is in compliance. But we can't let our guard down. We need to keep pushing for safe food and tell these companies what we want. I would gladly pay more $$$ per can and bag, for safe food that has all safe ingridients in it.
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