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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 06:21:16 PM » |
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I'm trying to read this right. i'm just upset. I ran out of cat food and had to get a bag of Science Diet .Does this mean there was something wrong with it?
Thanks, i'm just upset and very tired.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 06:27:02 PM » |
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This is important news! Kind of blows a hole in the "ChemNutra as bad guys" thing. This food is from before the date Menu said they began buying from ChemNutra.
I wonder how many smaller recalls billed as aflatoxin were really something else. Aflatoxin is so handy. Oops, grain got moldy. Can't blame us. Convenient excuse to cover up that you are really spiking the food with chemicals to fake the protein levels.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 06:28:29 PM » |
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Cyanuric acid was found in sealed cans of Nutro Max Cat with dates before the recall period.
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trudy1
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2008, 07:20:25 AM » |
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Well, My bag of Science said best buy before - 02/09. that's why i was worried.
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Carol
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2008, 07:23:56 AM » |
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2008, 07:41:09 AM » |
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Carol, some of those listed are pouches and those are good for 2 years....."good" not meaning good, if you get my drift.......lol The cans are "good" for 3 years. I also had that same question last year. I remember calling them to find out the specific dates after seeing the "all dates" being listed in April when these new additions were added to the recall list and they would not tell me, said they couldnt.....  |
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2008, 08:47:39 AM » |
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I remember being surprised when the recall for Nutro Max Cat cans was changed to "all dates" too. Because in the beginning of the recalls, there was one I had with a date earlier than the recall dates that were listed. Then, a few days later, the FDA list was changed to "all dates." (I still have that early can.  ) |
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Carol
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2008, 08:51:14 AM » |
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I am pretty sure we all had this posted somewhere before but it might be a good idea to bring it up again! I see no mention of CA but maybe that is just a reporter oversight?? http://www.marinij.com/marin/ci_5630208 |
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2008, 12:58:26 PM » |
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I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that there were other companies as well that finally recalled their food from "all dates" as a precaution because the exact root of the problem had not been found yet.
Trudy,
Dry food is usually only good for 1 year, so your Science food was probably manufactured in Feb. of 2008, thus the best buy date would be Feb. 2009. Hope that relieves your mind a bit!
Also, this was discussed previously somewhere, but some canned food has a shelf life of 3 years and some are 2. All used to be 2, but some companies changed that in recent years. Fancy Feast is 2 years.
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Sandi K
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2008, 02:53:43 PM » |
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Mandycat, there were some other companies that used "all dates" too but its interesting in Nutro's case that some of their wet dog food recalled has specific dates listed, most of the pouch food has specific dates listed but most of the wet cat food has "all dates". Might not mean anything though. And yes, the shelf life is different depending on the company, Nutro's is 3 years: http://www.nutroproducts.com/faqcat.shtml#codeHow do you read the canned food code dates?
A. Due to technical advances in materials the expiration dates for cans produced after March 31, 2004 will be three years from date of manufacture.
Here is an example of the coding:
1st Line: BEST BY MMM DD YY
2nd Line: Contains manufacturing information: i.e., plant, line and time
Where: MMM = Month of Production
DD = Day of Production
YY = Year of Production + 3
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A can manufactured on May 31, 2004 would be coded: BEST BY MAY 31 07 |
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2008, 03:53:50 PM » |
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If Nutro's recall was for all dates, how can the latest canned cat food tested be called pre-recall? Instead wouldn't the test elude to the company knew of a pre -existing problem and as a knowledge of this made the recall for all dates. Have any other companys at first recalled some dates and then changed the recall to all dates?
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Sandi K
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2008, 04:00:57 PM » |
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Well I guess because its reported that the problem started when ChemNutra brought in the wheat gluten and began using it in Nov 2006, they did not say there was a problem with any food prior to Nov 2006 at least publicly. So, to me, if there are cans of food made in May, June and Sept 2006, it would be considered pre-recall. If the company knew of a pre-existing problem, then they did not disclose it to anyone including FDA, etc. And I think there is a misunderstanding, the Nutro food that has "all dates" was not changed from specific dates to "all dates". It was food that was recalled on April 10th or 12th and always had the dates listed as "all dates".
I suppose another way of looking at this is if they put all dates on the food recalled on April 10th, but didnt do that to other food, perhaps they found out prior food had cyanuric acid in it and chose to put "all dates" to cover their behinds so no one would find out.
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2008, 04:14:57 PM » |
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Pre-recall is the term I used for this thread as it was in Nov of 2006 that supposedly ChemNutra distributed the tainted wheat gluten to Menu Foods and that is what we have been told --- that the food was contaminated due to ChemNutra....no mention of cyanuric acid in food prior to this has been made public..and the FDA has never made public why they have all different dates...  |
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2008, 04:33:33 PM » |
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Carol I am glad you starteed this post. IMHO the test shows there was a problem long before the recalls started. What other information have the pet food companys with held from the consumers?
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