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Author Topic: Research Evidence of Pet Food Harms  (Read 6431 times)
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JanC
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« on: November 01, 2008, 06:34:07 AM »

Once again, Dr. Fox has a very informative article.......hope this hasn't been posted already.

http://tedeboy.tripod.com/drmichaelwfox/id88.html
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 07:06:49 AM »

Geez, that's one LONG article.

Very informative though.  And I don't care if it was already posted  Shocked, thanks.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 07:54:38 PM »

Once again, Dr. Fox has a very informative article.......hope this hasn't been posted already.

http://tedeboy.tripod.com/drmichaelwfox/id88.html
EVERYONE should click on and read all of the topics from this link. If you are feeding commercial dry food with grains/carbs it is a MUST READ as it just may SAVE YOUR PETS life and make WELL any pets on here who are now ILL. A wealth of information all in one spot and I do not believe anyone has ever covered it like this and made it simple to read and understand and put into practice - LIKE TODAY to save your pets.

The moderators should pin this one to the top so it does not get lost til everyone on here reads this link. IT IS IMPORTANT to PLEASE take the time - it may well keep your pet healthy and prevent pets from becoming sick in the first place and cure those who are now sick.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE take time and read this link thanks to JanC.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 08:21:39 PM »

Yes, a wealth of information is right!  Thanks for posting this link.  I'll be reading through these for awhile.  This is also a great list of scientific studies to refer to when trying to convince people about problems with commercial pet food.  It's all here - diseases caused by too many carbs, over and under supplementation, low digestibility and availability of overprocessed foods and poor ingredient quality.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2008, 04:20:27 AM »

Wow.  Thank you JanC.  Dr. Fox sure covered a lot with this article. 

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2008, 09:43:23 AM »

Dr. Fox's articles on the importance of a natural diet for cats and dogs were an integral part of what pushed me to embark on making my cats' food myself.  I wish I would REMEMBER them each time I feel lazy and tempted to just go get something from the feed store  Wink  Hear that Cato? 
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2008, 11:48:25 AM »

I agree 100%.......I thought this article was great because it actually covers what we've all heard & read about before but now it's all in one place.......so we can be reminded all at once when we're tempted to pour kibble into their bowls........ewwwwwww....... Angry

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2008, 08:16:01 PM »

I enjoy reading Dr Foxes papers.. truthfully I  Undecided Undecided when I read it as many of those article s have multi studies with other outcomes... but it does make you think
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2008, 06:56:22 AM »

If there are articles proving Dr. Fox's research is wrong,  that any of what he has to say is untrue & these ingredients are safe, we'd all love to read opposing views.

Please provide links so we can all decide for ourselves.

Thank you.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2008, 10:25:11 AM »

Thanks for that article, I have lots of reading to do, I quickly scanned it and it said something about canned food not being good  Huh
I do not feed dry food at all, as I know how bad it is, but have been feeding wet for well over a year to both my cats with great results thus far.
I wanted to switch to raw but one cat has only her fangs, no other teeth due to an autoimmune thing she had when she was a year old, so she had them all out. So raw would be difficult for her.  Im not sure what to do now, have to investigate this further.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2008, 12:06:12 PM »

Dr. Fox has always been big on raw food.......I wouldn't concern yourself as long as you are getting a good canned food with no grains.  I personally don't care for raw but that doesn't mean it isn't good, just personal preference.

I felt he covered a lot of things that we all have heard about at some point but the fact that it's all on one page I thought was a huge plus.  I don't know about any of you but when I want to share an article with somebody, it takes me a long time going through all my bookmarked websites to find what I'm looking for.  Old age & memory loss is hell.

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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2008, 12:31:12 PM »

Dr. Fox has always been big on raw food.......I wouldn't concern yourself as long as you are getting a good canned food with no grains.  I personally don't care for raw but that doesn't mean it isn't good, just personal preference.

I felt he covered a lot of things that we all have heard about at some point but the fact that it's all on one page I thought was a huge plus.  I don't know about any of you but when I want to share an article with somebody, it takes me a long time going through all my bookmarked websites to find what I'm looking for.  Old age & memory loss is hell.

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lol.. it is not just old age ...lol..

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I do a mix of foods ... today it is freeze dried raw with canned and dry ...
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2008, 06:00:31 PM »

I noticed that the research done on canned food was done in 1998.  Well now there are canned foods that are better quality and higher protein, not saying they are perfect but......
Also about the hypothyrodism  if it is due to canned food then why do cats that eat dry get this disease too??
Then there is the BHA issue with the lining of the cans.
Then it goes on to say this:
The result of the study concluded that “Based on the results of this study, we conclude that chronic renal disease may be induced in cats with previously normal renal function by feeding diets containing a combination of high protein and low potassium”.   Clearly lack of potassium in pet food is giving cats kidney failure since they are meant by Mother Nature to eat a high protein diet.   http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/121/11_Suppl/S91.pdf         

IM now confused once again  Huh
So now I should check the potassium levels of the Wellness and Evo that I feed how much potassium enough?

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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2008, 08:51:28 PM »

TBOBINA:  I know how these studies can make us panic!  I think it is great that your cats are eating mostly wet food (or is it all wet food?).  On a "dry matter basis" canned or wet food is always higher in protein content than kibble, even the grainless kibble.  So your kitties are getting plenty of protein.  And I think you (and all of us here) are making a great effort in ensuring that your cats eat good quality food.  Give them also as much fresh food as you are able, even if it is just plain shredded chicken breast ... fresh food goes a long long way in promoting good health.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2008, 08:56:26 PM »

TBOBINA:  I know how these studies can make us panic!  I think it is great that your cats are eating mostly wet food (or is it all wet food?).  On a "dry matter basis" canned or wet food is always higher in protein content than kibble, even the grainless kibble.  So your kitties are getting plenty of protein.  And I think you (and all of us here) are making a great effort in ensuring that your cats eat good quality food.  Give them also as much fresh food as you are able, even if it is just plain shredded chicken breast ... fresh food goes a long long way in promoting good health.

completely agree ....
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