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« on: February 28, 2011, 11:12:59 PM »

Hello all
I have been meaning to ask this for some time but keep forgetting.

I know that high protein diets with little or no grains are better for cats .

But I just have a very hard time wrapping my head around these new high protein dry diets actually being good and safe to feed cats or dogs for that matter.

Cause if you think about it the high protein that is referred to is raw meat and bone with moisture in it.
These high protein dry foods just don't seem safe to me.

The way I feel is a little grain seems healthier than such a high dried out protein.

But then I don't know that much so hence my question.

I just can't bring myself to feed the high protein no grain foods . Theres just something that seems  wrong about it.
I'd love to hear everyones opinions on this cause I was hoping maybe I could find out something about these that I don't realize.
Thanks
mels
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 11:56:16 PM »

Might want to ask if the grains are genetically modified franken food. A lot of people feed grains, some not all the time. After the moldy grain in the Diamond in which 100 dogs dropped dead, do not feed corn but the mold can occur with any grain that is exposed to high heat and humidity and then they spray it with all kinds of fungus and insect killers so they animals end up consuming the pesticides and insecticides.

So many factors to consider when feeding a pet that it can drive you bonkers at times.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 06:25:52 AM »

I tend to agree with soem of your points, mels.  I have had some very basic issues with so-called "no grain" dry cat foods:  They cause my cats to get constipated, even though I am feeding other types of food also. 

I personally would never feed a cat exclusively dry food if I could help it, for many, many reasons, the main one being that the cat does not get enough moisture from such a diet.  (I realize that some cats who were raised on dry exclusively can be very difficult to get eating any wet food.  I have one cat, rescued as an adult, who is like that.  I don't think she had ever seen wet food in her life, other than maybe what she caught.)

Remember that the "no-grain" dry foods are not no-starch foods.  Usually potato or tapioca is substituted for the grain in order to make kibble.  Both those can have problems like molds, toxins, etc. just as much as grains (see my post about the cattle who died of eating moldy sweet potatoes.)

IMO the whole "grain-free" thing is a marketing ploy.  I certainly don't think that a diet that is more grain than protein would be good for a carnivore.  Most of the "cheap" dry cat foods fall into that category.  But that doesn't mean that the opposite is a cure-all, either. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 09:06:41 AM »

Maybe this research can help you make that decision:

http://itchmoforums.com/pet-food-questions-and-researching-foodsingredients/cat-diet-research-t12633.0.html

I feed my cats some high protein, grain-free dry and also a higher-protein dry that includes grain. They seem to do well on about a 70/30 mix (70% grain food). They do drink more when they eat the grain-free exclusively so they're compensating but they still get a little too constipated. I also feed wet 2 or three times/day.
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