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« on: November 15, 2009, 02:14:22 PM »

Lotus Cat Food is a new arrival in one of the better-informed pet food stores where I live.  (I thought I remembered someone mentioning it here on the forum, but a search gave no results.)  This is a chicken-based dry cat food that appears to have a large number of veggies and some botanicals á la Orijen, but states made in California, and isn't half fish like Orijen.  The store owner had an information flyer posted which says that the product is baked, not extruded, for lower-temperature processing, which reminds me of Orijen too.  The food comes in regular and low-fat.

Does anyone know anything about this food?  The kibble shape is very unusual, almost like tiny little fluted cakes!

ETA:  The company's website contained almost no information.
http://www.lotuspetfoods.com/who.html
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 02:54:04 PM »

Here's a start on them from doing a WhoIs on the domain:

Registrant:
CENTINELA FEED
2727 Maricopa street
torrance, CA 90503
US

Domain Name: LOTUSPETFOODS.COM
Administrative Contact:
CENTINELA FEED ckn@centinelafeed.com
2727 Maricopa street
torrance, CA 90503
US
310 212 1000 fax: 123 123 1234

http://www.centinelafeed.com/

"Not familiar with Centinela Feed? We are a chain of twelve—and growing!—retail pet stores located throughout southern California. We specialize in holistic, raw, and natural pet foods, as well as a large variety of treats, supplements, and supplies for every one of your furry family members. We are famous for our outstanding customer service; our staff is not only friendly, they are extremely knowledgeable. All locations offer low-cost vaccination clinics and in-store events. Several locations also offer adoptions and grooming."

http://www.centinelafeed.com/about/aboutus.html

Here's a potential oh-oh-

http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/ee765cb97fbff562852572a000651fdf/c4ecd7c6b4c84f03852570d8005e13d3!OpenDocument

CENTINELA FEED AND PET SUPPLIES ORDERED TO STOP SELLING ILLEGAL PET PRODUCTS

Release date: 6/27/2000

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency today issued a stop sale order against Centinela Feed and Pet Supplies of Los Angeles for selling unregistered and mis-branded versions of the popular flea-control products, Advantage for Dogs and Advantage for Cats.

Both Advantage products are missing labeling information required for safe use.  Neither product supplies first aid instructions, restriction information on application to puppies under 7 weeks old, or storage and disposal requirements.  Also, the instructions are in the metric system which could result in over-dosage of the product by those unfamiliar with the metric system.

The mis-branded versions found at Centinela Feed and Pet Supply appear to be properly labeled and registered on the outer boxes.  But the internal tubes and blister packages are packaged for sale to foreign countries and are missing warning statements such as: "Keep Out of Children's Reach."  The products also lack the proper name and registration number.

If you keep going through the website, you find they have raw and canned dog food products also, but I don't see any statements as to where the foods are made or anything about where their ingredients are from.

http://forums.dogfoodproject.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=734&Main=730

The food brand itself is not new--this was being sold at Centinela Feed stores only apparently for quite some time--the posts here date back to 2004:

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Company Information:
Manufacturer: Lotus Pet Food Inc., 2727 Maricopa Street, Torrance, CA 90503
Website: none
Phone: 1-888-99-LOTUS
Email: n/a

Product Claims:
- Human-grade, hormone free meats
- Organic fruits and vegetables
- Oven Baked

Availability:
- This food is only available at "Centinela Feed" pet stores.

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showproduct.php?product=1361&cat=4

Dog Food Analysis from 2007--still no word about where it's made or ingredient sources.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080413205646AAuA5yU

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have 3 dogs(2 labs and a lab mix) and 2 are on Wellness(Healthy Weight) and one is on Science Diet(Sensitive Stomach). The lab that is on Science Diet was on California Natural. On California Natural, I found that his stools were loose at times. Also, I thought the food had far too many calories for him to maintain a healthy weight, so I took him off of it. I was told at the pet store that out of the premium brands, the California Natural Brand (some type of fish blend) was the easiest for the dogs that cannot handle the richness of the premium brands. At one time, I had him on Lotus which gave him really bad diarrhea so bad that he went in the house and stained my hardwood floors. So the Science Diet-Sensitive Stomach has been the best for him. My dogs genetics simply cannot handle those premium brands and I have tried many, you should do just what works for you. You should not feel guilt or pressure to feed him premium food, just feed him what works for him.

Adding here--I see no Feed Mill license for either company come up, so I'd believe that Lotus products are made for them by someone else.
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2009, 05:24:27 PM »

Hmmm.  Who else makes baked kibble?  It would seem to me that the equipment for baked vs. high-temperature extruded would be a pretty expensive setup.  And since there are so few baked kibble products, I'd bet there are not many manufacturers.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 07:04:38 PM »

I think Flint River has baked dry foods.  They wouldn't reveal who makes it for them in the past, but that info may be out there now.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 01:24:46 PM »

I recently ordered this.  The boys like it.  No tummy upsets (they have only gotten a little bit).  I have concerns - one, it has soybean oil, the magnesium level is higher than a lot of foods (.13%), they have not responded to my email with questions.  The bag says it is made in Canada.

http://www.lotuspetfoods.com/catchicken.html#lotus_catchicken.jpg

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 02:34:36 PM »

I have used the low fat with no problem, but they didn't do as well with the regular. Of course to be fair it was Oreo who got diarrhea & he gets it from almost everything.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 06:37:31 PM »

Soybean - franken food. Spartycats hoping your boys do not have any affects from the Lotus cat food and do well.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 07:03:26 PM »

Spartycats,
I have never used this food and don't know anything about it.  However, I would be very leary of using it with that high magnesium.  The high magnesium supposedly contributes to struvite crystal and stone formation, and that may be particularly bad for boy kitties since they are more prone to blocking.  I wouldn't risk it if there are better foods that they like.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2010, 05:15:27 AM »

Thanks, all.  It has been set aside.  I was overcome by the pretty bag.  Wink

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2010, 09:16:32 AM »

Made in Canada would make the most sense.  Oven Baked is one of the few companies that is still baking food, and they used to hold the contract for Wellness back when it was a baked product, so one can assume that they have far more processing capacity than they are using (their products are not big sellers).

I find that the baked foods cause runny stool and gas, particularly in dogs, but some pets do just fine on it.

Regardless, I agree with the soy concerns.  We choose not to use soy products of any kind due to both GMO and chemical issues (I used to cash crop soy for a living).
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2010, 10:04:04 AM »

There are companies producing baked pet foods in the US:

http://www.frrco.com/

"Where our Products are Made
Flint River Ranch products are proudly manufactured within the United States of America, in a state-of-the-art facility."
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