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caylee
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« on: September 07, 2014, 06:31:34 AM »

I have a very health food conscious friend who is giving her cat Rice Dream to drink every day. Will it hurt the cat in anyway? I went to the website, but didn't read anything either way, unless I missed it.

http://www.tastethedream.com/products/product/1467/202.php

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2014, 08:47:45 AM »

I wouldn't recommend this.  Sometimes people think what is healthy for them, is healthy for cats.  This is largely starch, and cats have no requirement for carbohydrates.  It may affect blood sugar levels long-term.  I wouldn't know what adding additional calcium (and phosphorus) might do, if the cat is otherwise getting a balanced diet.

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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2014, 11:26:34 PM »

caylee,
I agree with spartycats on this.  Cats are obligate carnivores and require primarily meat protein in their diets.  They do not need, nor do they process, high carbs very well.  If their cat food is balanced, they just don't need all those extra carbohydrates in their diet.  Also, you have to be careful about too much phosphorus in a cat's diet since it can put an extra burden on their kidneys.  With the rather high percentage of calcium also, it could possibly cause some calcium/phosphorus imbalance.  I am sure your friend means well, but she probably is not really doing the right thing for the cat.  Perhaps you can suggest some websites where she can read more about cat nutrition.  One that might help is http://www.catinfo.org.  That is Dr. Lisa Pierson's website and she is an expert on feline nutrition.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 09:09:56 AM »

I think whether it is harmful or not depends upon how much she is giving the cat.

A couple of licks as a treat for a cat who likes the taste of milk would not IMO be harmful.

However, if she is giving the cat a dish of it to drink every day, or substituting this for fresh water or cat food, then it is definitely not in the cat's best interests, for the reasons already stated.

For those who don't know, Rice Dream is used as a milk substitute by people who can't tolerate the lactose in dairy milk, or who maintain a vegan diet, as a beverage, to put on their cereal, and so forth.  However, cats and people are very different in terms of what is good for them.

Do you know why she gives it to the cat? If you are interested in getting her to change what she's doing, knowing why she does it would be a good place to start.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 07:38:17 PM »

Thanks Spartycats, Mandycat, and Catbird for replying to this question. Sorry it took so long to post again but my life got 'busy'.  Smiley

My friend is very 'healthy food' minded and at one time was almost a vegan. She also has taught classes in her home about eating healthy foods. But she is a new cat Mom and does not understand cat nutrition. Thanks, Mandycat for the link. I'll email the link to her.

She has been emailing me and has mentioned giving her cat Rice Dream. He started out getting little tastes but now she is giving him a whole bowl every morning. I really do not know why she does this instead of giving the cat wet food, other than she does not want the cat to get fat. This makes no sense to me. I do my best to guide her thinking.

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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 04:00:11 PM »

Sounds like quite a challenge, caylee. Would you be able to persuade this person that what constitutes good cat nutrition is very different from what constitutes good human nutrition?  Hopefully she will read the link to Dr. Lisa Peterson's site.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2014, 01:33:06 PM »

Catbird,
That is exactly what I'm hoping to do. I think that once she realizes that what constitutes good cat nutrition is very different from what constitutes good human nutrition she will be fine. But my job is to find enough good websites for her to study. The change may take time, that is why I wanted to know about the product, Rice Dream. It sounds like there is nothing in the product itself that will be harmful to the cat, even though long term usage of it the way she is doing it will be harmful. 

Thanks everyone for your help. It puts my mind at ease for now.   
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2014, 09:18:47 PM »

caylee,
Here is the link to another website that discusses proper nutrition for cats.  This article starts out answering a question about diet for a diabetic cat, but then goes on to explain the diet that is preferred for ALL cats, including those with diabetes.  The information about the desired composition of the diet is good information for your friend, I think.

       http://endocrinevet.blogspot.com/search/label/nutrition?updated-max=2011-09-13T00:07:00-04:00&max-results=20&start=37&by-date=false
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2014, 02:47:41 PM »

Thanks for the links that were posted. I will read them before sending them off to her, that way I will be able to highlight the important pages. I doubt that she would be able to find the time to read the whole sites, as she is not one that spends a lot of her time on the internet. I may also print off some of  the most important things and snail mail them to her. She does live a very busy life caring 24/7 for a very ill husband, plus being very involved in many church activities. I don't think that I would enjoy keeping her schedule.   Smiley

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She and her husband rescued this cat from going into a shelter, as the original owner had to go into a nursing home. She thought that the kitty would be a good companion for her ill husband and distract him from his illness. This part has been good. Kitty and DH spend lots of time together.  Cheesy  In fact, she often comments to friends, "What did we used to talk about before we had the cat?"  Grin So he is in a loving home, just one that needs to learn more about specific care of the cat.

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