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Author Topic: Any good canned cat foods not made by Simmons?  (Read 4091 times)
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littlegreeny
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« on: December 07, 2011, 06:10:42 AM »

Since the problems my cat had with Wellness, I am looking to diversify his intake. I'm looking for a high quality, (preferably grainless) canned food that has liver as one of the ingredients. I tried EVO, also made by Simmons, and he doesn't like it...I think it's because there is no liver in their formulas.

Did Evanger's get their act together? I know they had some problems a few years ago.
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 06:36:50 AM »

I personally have no trust in Evanger's; your mileage may vary. Wink

If your cat likes liver, you may want to try the Instinct line by Nature's Variety. It's grain-free, comes in a number of different basic meats (chicken, duck, beef, venison, rabbit and I think a couple of others) and I've not had any problems with it.

A couple of warnings about liver, however:  You may want to try not to feed liver-containing foods every day, to prevent over-consumption of vitamins D and A, which can cause health problems.  Also, although no one really knows definitively what causes feline hyperthyroidism, (there are probably many factors), some studies have showed that one "risk factor" is frequent consumption of liver-containing foods.  (Just a heads-up; I learned this because I recently had a cat diagnosed with severe hyperthyroidism, who is now under treatment.)
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 08:20:24 AM »

littlegreeny,

We use a bit of VeRUS canned food along with Now! kibble and homemade using Alnutrin supplements.

Verus is your basic meat with vitamins and minerals added.  The chicken and liver flavor contains chicken liver.   

It's not available locally, so we order from Hearty Pets.

http://www.heartypet.com/m-74-verus.aspx
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 08:36:51 AM »

Along with VeRUS, that 5catMom suggests, there are canned foods from Fromm, and NutriSource.
All 3 brands are canned by Performance Pet Products, I believe.  All have chicken liver. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 04:00:32 PM »

Thanks for the suggestions. Verus sounds good, except not sure what exactly "ocean fish" is. I have to be careful as my cat is allergic to salmon. I like the Natural Planet Organics line which is from the same company that markets Nutrisource. The ingredients are similar to By Nature Organics. I called both companies and both use Performance Pet Products to can their products. Unfortunately, there are no stores near me which carry these two brands.

And thanks catbird for the suggestion on the Instinct line. Their formulas are canned by Simmon's. I want to avoid having all my cat's food come from one cannery. I already feed Wellness which is canned by Simmon's.

And I also really like what I've read about Alnutrin supplements, but I sent them an email yesterday with a few questions and still haven't received a reply. And I don't like that they don't have a phone number listed on their website.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 04:30:00 PM »

Weruva, Fussie Cat & BFF are all made by Weruva in Thailand. They are mostly fish flavors, but not all.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 06:59:01 PM »

It's been awhile since I've used Wellness, but I think some of their canned foods are still being canned at American Nutrition too.  Maybe someone has an update on that.  How about one of the freeze-dried raw foods, or if you don't mind the gross, a frozen raw food?  (and on the topic of hyperthyroidism, I think it has also been tentatively linked to pop-top canned foods, hasn't it?)

It may take a few days to get an answer from Alnutrin.  From what I can tell, it's a small business, I think more like a family or home-based business., not a big megacorp with a PR office dedicated to answering calls & emails.  It took about a week for Marta to work out my recipes when I first sent them in because of the large number of other recipe requests that had just come in.  Ordering from them has been quick and problem-free.
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 12:26:03 AM »

petslave,
The pop-top can theory has been one of many about causes for hyper-T.  Nothing has been proven, though.  The BPA in the can linings was suspect, but even that has been somewhat now questioned because most of the petfood companies don't actually use it in their cans. There was an article a while back on truthinpetfood site where Susan Thixton posted replies from various petfood companies about their use of BPA in the can linings.  It is most likely a combination of factors, plus more awareness of the disease in older cats and vets testing more routinely to check for it that has resulted in finding more cases. And, also cats living so much longer so there is more time for old age diseases to surface.  
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2011, 04:04:58 PM »

Thanks again everyone for your help!

I heard from Marta at Alternate Nutrition this morning...She's great. I went ahead and ordered her Alnutrin.

FYI-I went to the natural pet store near my house and they said the quality of all the Wellness formulas has decreased significantly since that investment firm bought them. My local store stopped carrying the Wellness kibble and is considering doing the same with the canned. Explains why my cat recently had problems with the Wellness canned turkey.

And catbird, I bought a few cans of the Instinct line last night and mixed a little with my cat's food. He doesn't seem too crazy about it. I also got a can of Addiction buffalo meatloaf and a few different kinds of raw dehydrated food (The Honest Kitchen and Stella & Chewy's) to see if he likes any of them.
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2011, 04:21:52 PM »

I hear you on the Wellness, littlegreeny.  We used it for years, but over the past year my cats liked it less and less, and I finally just gave up buying it.  It's a shame, really.

Yeah, Instinct is one of those things that your cats either like or don't.  Mine eat it for awhile, get tired of it, and then I don't buy it for like 6 months.  Then I'll buy some and they will eat it again.

I envy you having Addiction easily available!
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