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« Reply #750 on: July 24, 2008, 06:48:22 AM » |
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I have to agree with JustMe, Mandycat, and catmom5+. If you try to follow every bit of advice out there to avoid this and that, you will do nothing but make yourself crazy. Plus you'll be dead of starvation, because if you look hard enough, you can read something bad about everything you could possibly eat. I too have lived long enough to see that today's health food is tomorrow's poison--look at margarine as an example!  Mandycat said it perfectly--moderation and common sense. And that includes moderation in what you feed your mind, as catmom5+ pointed out so well. Constant stress is a bigger threat to anyone's long-term health than an occasional McDonald's! That's why, while I respect people's rights to their opinions, most of the time I don't bother to read these threads at all. And when I do, I do so with a healthy skepticism.
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« Reply #751 on: July 24, 2008, 10:05:51 AM » |
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Thanks to each and every one of you. I hear You all, loud and clear. You feel like My family and I truly treasure that. i'm sorry i got so down and said so much yesterday. But I am listening to you, and reading what You have written over and over. so, i'll be alright. And I am going to find a natural Dr. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
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« Reply #752 on: July 24, 2008, 01:07:22 PM » |
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Glad you are feeling better, Trudy. We all need a little support from time to time. I hope you find a good Naturopath. One or two visits a few years ago helped me a lot since I learned about a few food allergies conventional testing wasn't picking up.
You already seem like you practice moderation so a little help with general stress or diet might be all you need. (I know you do rescue work and are a very caring person, and that can be very demanding.)
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« Reply #753 on: July 24, 2008, 01:14:55 PM » |
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Everyone has said it all so well, I can only add, I agree, you have to do the best you can, and make sure you get the right nutrition. And there must be a good natural practitioner somewhere around you; you may have to travel a little distance but it would be worth it.
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« Reply #754 on: July 27, 2008, 04:42:29 PM » |
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http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_13702.cfmOCA's Kellogg's Boycott Gaining Momentum Saying no to Fruit Loops: Flint-area people join Internet campaign against Kellogg's and biotech crops FLINT, Michigan -- The grandkids won't munch Froot Loops anymore when they come to visit Mark Fisher and Kathleen Kirby. "They'll be getting organic oatmeal here," said Kirby, a retired English teacher from the Flint School District. The Flint couple are among those calling for a national consumer boycott against Battle Creek-based Kellogg Co., the world's leading cereal maker, in an effort to block the use of genetically engineered (GE) sugar beets in products ranging from candy and breakfast cereal to bread.
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« Reply #755 on: July 27, 2008, 11:34:59 PM » |
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Are these beets the same as what is used in canned vegetables too and fresh beets in the produce section? Have already been buying organic sugar for the past year due to them turning the sugar beets into adulterated, toxic food.
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« Reply #756 on: July 28, 2008, 12:13:14 AM » |
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Hopefully those sugar beets are a special variety just for sugar production. We just had some organic fresh beets for dinner tonight, (tasty!), but I buy regular non-organic canned, too.
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« Reply #757 on: July 28, 2008, 09:07:16 PM » |
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I signed the letter. Thanks for the opportunity, Trudy! I emailed some other companies as well. It looks like a letter originally sent to the sugar company and copied to Kellogg. I am going to email the sugar company and as many sugar users as I can think of--we've already got so much HFCS. And don't forget the Wheat Growers and bakers. We may still have a chance with that one. But NAWG is really pushing for the availability of gmo wheat ASAP. It is referred to as the competitiveness issue. http://www.wheatworld.org/html/info.cfm?ID=23
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« Reply #758 on: July 31, 2008, 10:51:09 AM » |
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Look at this newsletter I received from Growers for Biotechnology. It will probably be available on their website tomorrow; I couldn't find it today: Marketing Threatens Technology That Could Help Feed the World July 31, 2008 Growers for Biotechnology recently participated in a forum sponsored by AFACT (American Farmers for the Advancement and Conservation of Technology). Several speakers gave presentations that clearly drive home the need for more agriculture productivity from existing lands. The most impressive message came from Dr. John Fetrow, a professor at the University of Minnesota. He showed a video that illustrated how global population has increased since the time of the Roman Empire. As a meter clicked off the passing years, dots of light appeared on a map of the world for each one million people. For centuries, dots appeared very slowly, primarily in India and China. Not until the 1600s were there any dots in the New World. Then, in the last century dots began to appear rapid-fire. Today, world population increases by 80 million people per year. When the video ended in 2030, the entire globe was lit up to represent 9 billion people, an increase of 50 percent over today's population. The video is available for purchase at www.populationconnection.org. The big challenge: How will we feed those people? And what catastrophes will occur if there is not enough food to go around? The professor painted a gloomy picture of potential war and upheaval if people can't find enough food. With grain shortages this year, we may already be seeing how grave the challenge may be. Against that backdrop, we also learned about the trends that threaten the advancement of technologies that can help feed the world. These trends are being driven by short-sighted marketers who try to appeal to "green"-minded and largely ignorant consumers. These companies portray their food products as natural, organic, free of pesticides, free of synthetic hormones, non-GMO and so forth. These claims may help sell products, but they also create fears that will sidetrack the advancement of technologies that we need NOW. Most of the members of AFACT are dairy producers concerned about the loss of rBST, which enables them to produce more milk with fewer cows. First one milk company marketed its milk as rBST-free, hoping to make consumers feel their milk was safer than milk from treated cows. Other companies felt they had to follow suit. Today nearly every major dairy has told its producers to stop using the technology. {and they honestly think this kind of successful opposition to a megapower like Monsanto is brought on by ignorance!}Could the same thing happen with biotech crops? It certainly could {I hope it can--are they worried, or just greasing the legislative wheels to later/sooner outlaw organic labelling or something. Must they protect us--and the world--from our wreckless ignorance?} if companies continue to tout low-yielding organic production as somehow safer and better. It is vitally important that food companies, grocers and restaurateurs understand how their marketing games may have a devastating effect on global population. Farmers need all the tools of today and the future to meet this critical challenge. Growers for Biotechnology Commentary: Biotech crops directly related to higher yields -- Anti-biotech groups ignore the facts -- biotech helps growers produce more food with less environmental impact.
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« Reply #759 on: August 01, 2008, 05:24:26 PM » |
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More news on the sugar issue Trudy posted. http://www.gmfreeireland.org/news/index.php see date July 30 Monsanto beets lead to Kellogg's boycott SeattlePi.com, 30 July 2008. By Rebekah Denn The interesting point to me is that Kellogg's told the consumers group it would not use GMO sugar for products sold in Europe. All of its European products are "free of any ingredients derived from biotech sources." But they don't think U.S. customers care, and "consumer preference is the critical factor Kellogg uses in determining the products being provided in every market." In short, if we objected to genetically modified food the way Europeans do, they wouldn't put it on our food either. I think the OCA does consumers a service in keeping tabs on these things, but I have two questions: One, why call for a boycott, rather than call for people to write Kellogg's and let them know how many Americans do care? (Right now, the two sides are just presenting dueling statistics.) Second, why focus on Kellogg's, the company that gave an honest answer about its policies, while ignoring companies like Mars, who ducked the Times reporter's questions and refused to let the public know whether their foods will contain GMO sugar or not? Seems to give a message that avoiding the question is a better strategy than being straightforward. I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with Hershey's. -------------------------------------------- This reminds me of Kraft's commitment to gm free foods in China and the EU, but not US. But then again, there does not appear to be much vocal opposition or media coverage here. Just these few articles we can be thankful for--and the NGO's.
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« Reply #760 on: August 01, 2008, 05:27:18 PM » |
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same source as above, one article down about nanotech foods:
In a recent CBS/New York Times poll, 53 percent of Americans said they wouldn't buy genetically modified foods.
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« Reply #761 on: August 01, 2008, 06:54:41 PM » |
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I think it needs a lot of news time. and you don't ever hear it mentioned. I don't really even like the news anymore. They don't say anything important anymore and it's getting boring. this needs to be let out by the media. There are a lot of people [it's hard to believe] that don't know anything about this.
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« Reply #762 on: August 01, 2008, 10:50:02 PM » |
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There are a lot of people [it's hard to believe] that don't know anything about this.
That's the only ignorance I could think of when I saw the article claiming "largely ignorant consumers" threatening technological advancements in agriculture. They definitely want to keep us ignorant so we won't question their products' safety. It's like none of this is even happening. I think their favorite consumer is an ignorant consumer. Just shut up and eat it!
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« Reply #763 on: August 06, 2008, 06:09:37 PM » |
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Some word on the gmo sugar beets and other gmo's: http://www.bakingbusiness.com/news/newsfinder.asp?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=535&docId=l:832794373&topicId=14401&start=1&topics=singleAmerican Crystal Sugar Co. beet producers are seeing another bumper crop, with Roundup Ready beets and a 1X percent reduced acreage from 2007. American Crystal Sugar Co. in its farm shop meetings discussed a 22.7 ton per acre potential crop with 17.9 percent, with samples pulled this coming week. --Glyphosate-resistant common ragweed "may have been discovered" in the Red River Valley. A field tour is scheduled Aug. 5 near Mayville. The two-hour is 9:30 a.m. From I-29 take Exit 111 and go: 4 miles west on North Dakota Highway 200; north 2.5 miles on County Road 10 (158 Avenue). Among other things, experts will discuss how to control "potential" glyphosaete-resistant ragweed in sugar beet, soybeans and dry edible beans.
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« Reply #764 on: August 06, 2008, 06:12:58 PM » |
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http://www.bakingbusiness.com/news/daily_enews.asp?ArticleID=95582SASKATOON, SASK. — The National Research Council Canada and the Oil Crops Research Institute of the Chinese Academy have signed an agreement to collaborate on research to improve canola production, the two groups said Aug. 5. "This collaboration will help Canada and China develop higher yielding canola, increasing both our countries’ reputations for scientific excellence in agricultural research and creating a competitive advantage for Canadian and Chinese agricultural producers." Dr. Han-zhong Wang, director of the Oil Crops Research Institute, said, "Food and energy shortages are an escalating problem and increasing canola productivity is something that can help these global issues." ===================================== They must be looking at canola for energy sources because I don't see how growing more canola will help solve food shortages. I think if anything, it may cause them by growing biofuel--instead of food crops. Pretzel logic, again?
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