Donna
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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2007, 03:57:03 AM » |
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Sure seems to be pointing that way, K. I have long thought of cloned meats as a way of doing away with infectious diseases in animals for almost a year now. This method of ag production points towards "sterilization" in the line of this industry, as it is a way to produce a disease free and "safe" product for human consumption (and probably more expensive, too).
Do not let me mislead you though, this is not without reservation, as I wonder what immunities the animals will be "born" with. Will they be able to fend off airborne illnesses, or will they have the propensity to become diseased by way of the feeds and grains? What about the dna? Will it decide to evolve on its own, once the animals are introduced into the elements upon an ag production farm? Or, will the ag production farm now be turned into a "sterilization field" for the harbored animals, increasing the costs of these foods because of the ag necessities?
Too many questions on this one, and only one answer provided to the skeptical public, "the food is safe to eat". We are aware of the insidious happenings between life, slaughter and processing, and unless revamping of the houses and plants are slated, I think each individual can make up their own mind to determine how "safe" this product is going to be as it stands in the current hands. Do I plan on eating it, HELL, NO - I happen to think cows are beautiful, loving animals and their little ones are just too cute to eat! Besides, I saw what happened to Dolly's little ones.
Sincerely,
Donna
~ The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them ~
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2007, 11:51:37 AM » |
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Another reason I'm happy to be a vegetarian!  Me too. More reasons every year not to eat cows (or pigs or chickens or lambs or whatever.) |
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JustMe
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2007, 12:12:58 PM » |
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Hint, hint!
I wouldn't mind seeing somebody start a vegetarian thread or vegan thread for people who might be interested in not eating meat. Not sure what the PC term is. What you eat. What supplements you have to take. What do you do about your family's meals. Health issues.
I'm not much for eating animal flesh myself. I feel guilty about it. Yes, cows are beautiful.
Still have to feed the family and my carnivarous furkids. Can't get around that part of it.
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For I will whisper into their hearts
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I just am....forever and ever and ever.
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JustMe
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2007, 12:57:04 PM » |
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Eventually they will understand,
Replied the glorious cat
For I will whisper into their hearts
That I am always with them
I just am....forever and ever and ever.
Poem for Cats, author unknown
"A kitten in the animal kingdom is like a rosebud in a garden", author unknown
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catmom5
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2007, 01:36:16 PM » |
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My former mother-in-law used to make herself raw ground beef and onion sandwiches  . She died several years ago, but I'm guessing she's not the only one . . . BLECH!!! |
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JJ
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2007, 11:53:27 PM » |
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The bread the brains are between looks devoid of any nutritional value-kinda like cardboard with a lil color added to make one think its healthy for you.... NOT.
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Patsbeef
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2007, 08:37:02 PM » |
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And, unfortunately, ground beef is not really as fresh as consumers have been made to believe. I hate to be the bearer of this grotesque fact, but according to CNN and Cargill, the ground burger you are eating today, is actually around two years old. The only reason it has a nice "fresh" red color to it in the store refrigerator is because carbon monoxide was blown into it upon packaging.
Now, if that is not a scenario and a half, I don't know what is, but I would wager there are some beef eaters out there that feel they have been deceived, yet again.
More of a suggestion, than food for thought: Try grinding burger from sirloin, adding a little virgin oil, or buy Kobi beef from Japan. These cows produce extremely marbled and tender meat, as their day begins with a massage, followed by a frolic in the pasture. In order to encourage relaxed states and increase appetites, the cows are fed beer soaked fodder at times! In essence, they live the life of Riley, completely free from any stress that could be associated with mass production. Only thing, the meat is quite expensive.
Sincerely,
Donna
~ The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them ~
Lois McMaster Bujold, 2002 Diplomatic Immunity, US Science Fiction Author
The beef we sell has the date on it......It keeps because it is double wrapped and frozen... I doubt there is much if any two year old beef. Storage costs would be prohibitive, and packers would be drawing from these supplies rather than offering more to purchase new ones. We are in a cycle of historic high cattle prices.... Many ranchers are for testing for two reasons. Find the problem, address it and get it behind us. Also, we take pride in making product good for people, not that that harms people.Many ranchers are as fed up with the current USDA policies as consumers... Pat |
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Donna
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2007, 04:12:05 AM » |
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Hi Pat!
I do not doubt your beef or ground burger is as fresh as it can be, as you are pretty conscientious about your product and want to produce the very best you can for consumer consumption.
However, when I was watching the Congressional Hearing on this matter, it was a stated and admitted fact, that the ground burger was, indeed, up to two years old and they showed the freezers and full bags of that swill on television. Yes, Cargill was named, and they got away selling their ground burger until E coli strain 0157 H:7 hit the markets twice in less than one month!
It is just the same ole, same ole, Pat. Big business simply does not care 100% about the quality of the product they produce, they simply care about the amount of money it renders. Truly a sad situation, as the population in the US, including the children, are becoming sick and recalls are becoming commonplace from foods manufactured in America. It will only be a matter of time, that the propensity for death from laxness in "record keeping" or "critical safety plans" (as in ConAgra) will become a reality and not just a thought away tucked within our minds ... how very frightening, but moreso, how sad, because all is completely preventable with stringency.
I am sure most will agree with me when I say, the food chain and its policing agencies NEED overhauling expeditiously (before we find it is too late). Throughout all of this, though, is the importance of the mindset of the copious consumers who have become aware of the goings on and state, they have been turned off by all that has transpired of late in the food chain, particularly and especially with animal meats. How unfortunate, as down the line in time this notion could very well trickle down and affect the profits of those who truly care about the products they produce, and that is a hard price for innocent business to pay because of businesses that do not see the need for stringent hygiene and safety in food manufacturing.
Sincerely,
Donna
~ The dead cannot cry out for justice; it is a duty of the living to do so for them ~
Lois McMaster Bujold, 2002 Diplomatic Immunity, US Science Fiction Author
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